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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2017 1:06:23 GMT -5
MA played for only 26 minutes because of foul trouble. When he went to the bench with 4 fouls, I thought HC might lose its lead. The smooth 3 pointer by CLS was pretty to see and helped boost the team at a key time. (I saw he was again listed as "Clayton LeS" in stats during home games. Maybe if he keeps that smooth stroke, they will put his actual name in there, as is done for all of his teammates.) IMHO, HC will need a lot more than we saw tonight to make the Bucknell game close in Lewisburg. But, if we get hot from 3 point land (as we did against Monmouth) we do have a puncher's chance. I have to agree with the red light for AT's 3 point shots - even though that one he hit came at a good time. Did anyone else notice the many errors made by the announcers? GB regularly stated things that were not correct. One example, late in the second half he said that Colgate had taken the lead for the first time since the 3-0 in the opening minutes. Also, HC is at .500 overall and has a winning record in the PL at 6-5. (GB said in the game summary that HC had a winning record in the PL for the first time this season [OK, HC had a winning PL record back at 2-1 and again at 3-2...but who was counting? ]
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Post by sarasota on Feb 2, 2017 1:08:51 GMT -5
Another "we played less worse than the other team" win for HC.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Feb 2, 2017 6:52:57 GMT -5
Some would call that disrespectful Disrespectful? You're joking, right? Old joke. A fellow poster took issue with an innocuous comment BC made to Lutsk and wanted to paint him as disrespectful.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 2, 2017 7:08:39 GMT -5
But here will come the rejoinder:
1. It is a PL team so ipso facto, it is a terrible team. 2. Before the game, their record was 5-5 in that same terrible PL.
But, what do I know? I'm the one that preferred an ugly win over an elegant loss.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 2, 2017 7:22:21 GMT -5
Even with a likely three-time POY, quite possible that Lehigh will whiff on the NCAAs for a fourth straight year. If LU's collapse continues, Kempton will not be a slam dunk for POY. Only twice in PL history has the POY come from a team that finished worse than 2nd - once from a 3rd place team and once fro a 4th place team. If he cannot lead Lehigh - who likely has the league's most talent - to a high finish, it may cost him votes. It is possible his whining could cost him a vote or two as well. Fwiw, Foulland leads the conference in EFG, eff iciency rating, and win shares. He also has the highest DRtg. I like his chances.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 2, 2017 7:41:59 GMT -5
I don't think Carmody is disrepectful but he does have a healthy dose of Jersey "wise guy" in him, which I find funny. However, to "protect the innocent," I will relay a little story from last night. Prior to the game, one of our regulars here shared with me that he had had a conversation with one of the announcers of the game who told him that we would see a "lot" of Ziggy in the Colgate game because CWC told him that pre-game. I laughed and said "Carmody doesn't like to tell anyone [including homeboy Lutsk] anything more than he has to about the team as you can see/hear in the Coaches Night interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if that was disinformation." Well, maybe Ziggy came down with a sudden case of the flu or pulled a muscle in pre-game warm-ups because his "lots of playing time" was nil. Watch Carmody in pre-game, post-game or Coaches Night. The information you get from him is virtually nothing. That's not because he's stupid. It's because he's smart (like Belichick?). But yeah, Coach, why don't we at least try for rebounds?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 2, 2017 7:49:19 GMT -5
A team that won 4 of 5 PL road games before last night is hardly a "terrible" opponent. Nothing like facts to blow a gaping hole in an agenda Rob. I suppose he needed some sort of attempted angle since HC won... You want facts? -Colgate is 6-17 vs D1 teams -Of those wins RGS cited: ---Three were against the teams ranked 8-9-10 in the PL ---The fourth was against BU, who stinks, has 0.0 chance of winning the league, etc. etc. -They have 1 win this year against a team ranked above 235. They stink. Period. You guys are a real piece of work.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 2, 2017 8:29:52 GMT -5
The "any win is a good win" argument is empty when the team is not actually improving. I presume that you have never coached
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Post by Tom on Feb 2, 2017 8:49:06 GMT -5
Why I love Carm: Postgame interview with Lutsk on WEEI: Lutsk: "...we'll be watching the Super Bowl down in Lewisburg Sunday nite. Who do you like?" Carm: "The New York Football Giants" My kind of guy... Another reminder that Coach Carmody is old school. Just in case anyone thought he was referring to the baseball team
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2017 9:05:47 GMT -5
Nothing like facts to blow a gaping hole in an agenda Rob. I suppose he needed some sort of attempted angle since HC won... You want facts? -Colgate is 6-17 vs D1 teams -Of those wins RGS cited: ---Three were against the teams ranked 8-9-10 in the PL ---The fourth was against BU, who stinks, has 0.0 chance of winning the league, etc. etc. -They have 1 win this year against a team ranked above 235. They stink. Period. You guys are a real piece of work. Does home court advantage come from one's national rating? I was unaware of that. I foolishly thought it was because the home team won at home more often than visitors...even in the PL. I understand that nothing this team does will ever be any good for you. As they say, "Figures don't lie, but liars can use figures." OK, if I agree that HC stinks, can you finally stop saying it and perhaps appreciate it when something good happens for the team or its players? It was nice to see you not hide after an HC win. As to "a piece of work," take a look at your repetitive and tiresome posting of the same thing over and over. If this team is so bad, why do you follow it? Are you a closet masochist?
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 2, 2017 9:11:33 GMT -5
My grandfather grew up in the Bronx and was a huge New York Baseball Giants Fan. Granted the wound was still fresh, but until the day he died in 1979, he called the baseball team the New York Giants!
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2017 9:15:06 GMT -5
Anyone else old enough to remember when NY Giant home games were blacked out in NY and NJ? This was back before the Patriots (Boston or New England) existed. Then at HC we all watched every Giant game because we were outside the blackout area. There were many Giant fans on campus back in the day.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 2, 2017 9:21:30 GMT -5
It might be worth having a separate thread or even a separate forum that would allow posters to put in one spot their manifestos or agendas, or opinions, if you will.
Certain posters can state in one spot that they think, for example:
* Holy Cross went to hell when Fr. Brooks refused entry into the Big East
* the Patriot League sucks
* Tom Gilmore needs to be fired yesterday
* The owner of the Worcester Raiders is the anti-Christ
* Holy Cross is a seminary
* Holy Cross can never succeed in athletics and should drop multiple sports and/or drop to D-3 level
* Fitton Field should have lights and artificial turf
* Nate Pine? He is not an AD, he is just a marketer
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2017 9:31:57 GMT -5
It might be worth having a separate thread or even a separate forum that would allow posters to put in one spot their manifestos or agendas, or opinions, if you will. Certain posters can state in one spot that they think, for example: * Holy Cross went to hell when Fr. Brooks refused entry into the Big East * the Patriot League sucks * Tom Gilmore needs to be fired yesterday * The owner of the Worcester Raiders is the anti-Christ * Holy Cross is a seminary * Holy Cross can never succeed in athletics and should drop multiple sports and/or drop to D-3 level * Fitton Field should have lights and artificial turf * Nate Pine? He is not an AD, he is just a marketer LOL Well said, sader70. I am not sure that posts in those categories will take anyone by surprise.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 2, 2017 9:34:30 GMT -5
You want facts? -Colgate is 6-17 vs D1 teams -Of those wins RGS cited: ---Three were against the teams ranked 8-9-10 in the PL ---The fourth was against BU, who stinks, has 0.0 chance of winning the league, etc. etc. -They have 1 win this year against a team ranked above 235. They stink. Period. You guys are a real piece of work. Does home court advantage come from one's national rating? I was unaware of that. I foolishly thought it was because the home team won at home more often than visitors...even in the PL. I understand that nothing this team does will ever be any good for you. As they say, "Figures don't lie, but liars can use figures." OK, if I agree that HC stinks, can you finally stop saying it and perhaps appreciate it when something good happens for the team or its players? It was nice to see you not hide after an HC win. As to "a piece of work," take a look at your repetitive and tiresome posting of the same thing over and over. If this team is so bad, why do you follow it? Are you a closet masochist? 1) Do you think Colgate is a good team? 2) I follow the team because I care about Alma Mater, and want things to get better. If the team sucks, that doesn't mean those who care about the program should just go away. That horrible logic. And unlike wanting to sell more ads, wanting the athletic program to get better is not actually an "agenda." A game on a Wednesday night at 7:00 PM against a terrible Colgate team when we are playing awful basketball ourselves is not exactly something I am going to clear time on my calendar for. Sorrey. And by the looks of the activity on here, it appears that a lot of others are starting to lose interest in this team as well. Sad!
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Post by sader81 on Feb 2, 2017 9:47:01 GMT -5
A win is a win, no matter how ugly. The last week was depressing, but a couple good things were evident last night. RC looked much better; hopefully the injury is in the rear view mirror. Even when his shooting is off, he does a lot of good things out there; but even that was missing the past few weeks when he was hurting. Also, when Gate made their second half run and took the lead, the boys kicked it up a notch and pulled away. They have to at least split the next two on the road if they have any chance to host a home game in the tourney. A BuckU upset would go a long way in the event of any tiebreakers.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2017 9:49:17 GMT -5
From the Clgate website:
WORCESTER, Mass. – The Colgate men's basketball team wasn't able to get much going offensively as the Raiders dropped a 56-50 decision to Holy Cross Wednesday evening at the Hart Center. Colgate erased an early deficit to take a 40-39 advantage with just over five minutes left in the game, but an 8-0 Crusader streak put the Raiders in a hole they wouldn't be able climb out of. Junior Jordan Swopshire tallied his first double-double of the season with team-best marks of 17 points and 10 rebounds. Junior Sean O'Brien and sophomore Malcolm Regisford followed with nine points apiece. Four points from first-year Will Rayman and two from Regisford got Colgate out to an early 6-3 lead, but Holy Cross scored 12 of the game's next 14 points to pull ahead 15-8 with under 12 minutes on the clock. The Crusaders held onto a seven-point lead at 17-10 four minutes later, until Worcester, Mass. native Tom Rivard banked in a three-pointer that pulled Colgate within 17-13 with 8:20 on the clock. Holy Cross responded with a 7-2 run over the next four minutes to stretch its lead to 24-15 with under four minutes to play. O'Brien rattled home a trey at the 2:54 mark, which sparked an 8-3 Raider run that pulled Colgate within three at 26-23 with 47 seconds left in the term. Holy Cross scored three of final four points of the term to take a 29-24 lead into the locker room. A Regisford free throw and O'Brien three-pointer helped Colgate pull within two at 30-28 two minutes into the second half. The Crusaders went back up by four, by Swopshire netted five-straight points to put Colgate in front for the first time since early in the first half at 33-32 with 14:45 to play. Holy Cross answered with five-straight of its own before O'Brien drained another three and Regisford added a free throw to knot the score at 37 three minutes later. The lead changed three times over the next three minutes until Holy Cross used an 8-0 run to turn a 40-39 deficit into a 47-40 lead with just over five minutes left on the clock. Swopshire halted the Crusader streak at the 4:49 mark and scored Colgate's next six points as the Raiders were able to pull back within five at 51-46 with 3:46 to play. Holy Cross' Robert Champion tossed in a layup to make it 53-46 with 2:25 on the clock and Colgate was never able to come back as the Crusaders walked away with a 56-50 victory. BOTTOM LINE Holy Cross 56, Colgate 50 WON-LOST RECORDS The Raiders suffer just their second road loss of Patriot League play. Colgate falls to 5-6 in league action and 7-17 overall. The Crusaders improve to 6-5 in the Patriot League and 12-12 on the season. KEY RAIDER INFO Colgate's 50 points marks the Raiders' lowest scoring game this season. Swopshire's 17 points are his most in Patriot League play this season. He tied his season high with 10 rebounds. Sophomore Francisco Amiel tied his career high with five assists. Rayman, Regisford and Amiel all added five rebounds. FACTS & FIGURES Colgate finished the game shooting 33.3 percent (16-for-48) from the field, 32.3 percent (10-for-31) from three-point range and 66.7 percent (8-for-12) from the free throw line. The Crusaders shot 38.6 percent (17-for-44) from the floor, 36.4 percent (8-for-22) from downtown and 66.7 percent (14-for-21) from the charity stripe. Colgate held a 36-25 rebound advantage, but the Raiders turned the ball over 19 times compared to Holy Cross' 10. Champion led the Crusaders with 17 points, six rebounds, six steals four assists.
FROM THE SOURCE Head Coach Matt Langel "With Holy Cross' matchup zone and 1-3-1 defenses, you know going in that it's going to be a different style game. I thought our guys executed well and when we didn't make careless turnovers, we got a number of quality shots that unfortunately we weren't able to make." "Holy Cross certainly came up with timely loose balls and made some big plays late, but overall our defense was pretty solid. There are valuable lessons to be learned from the game. I know our guys will be ready to go Saturday afternoon against Navy."
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2017 9:52:09 GMT -5
2) I follow the team because I care about Alma Mater, and want things to get better. If the team sucks, that doesn't mean those who care about the program should just go away. That horrible logic. And unlike wanting to sell more ads, wanting the athletic program to get better is not actually an "agenda." A game on a Wednesday night at 7:00 PM against a terrible Colgate team when we are playing awful basketball ourselves is not exactly something I am going to clear time on my calendar for. Sorrey. And by the looks of the activity on here, it appears that a lot of others are starting to lose interest in this team as well. Sad! 1. If you did not clear your calendar, I guess you missed the game. That explains a lot. 2. What does "Sorrey" mean?
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2017 9:57:39 GMT -5
A final game note: Colgate will have this entire team back of next season. With an additional year's experience, who know what they might be like? Will HC's new faces be able to contribute by PL season with all of the folks we lose? It could be a different match-up in 2017-18.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 2, 2017 10:04:08 GMT -5
You really are the absolute worst.
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 2, 2017 10:14:31 GMT -5
Humorous moment from the game last night. It was late in the 1st half and Holy Cross had been stuck around 21 for a couple of minutes and looked sluggish. Holy Cross either travelled or lost a ball out of bound and a fan about half a section away yelled ... C'mon Holy Cross. You're playing like this is the Colgate game!
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Post by beaven302 on Feb 2, 2017 12:15:34 GMT -5
Anyone else old enough to remember when NY Giant home games were blacked out in NY and NJ? This was back before the Patriots (Boston or New England) existed. Then at HC we all watched every Giant game because we were outside the blackout area. There were many Giant fans on campus back in the day. I recall that. Giant fans used to drive to motels in Connecticut that catered to them. These places had tall TV antennas that could pull in Giants games from TV stations in New Haven, Hartford, or wherever.
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Post by hc2489 on Feb 2, 2017 12:31:20 GMT -5
2) I follow the team because I care about Alma Mater, and want things to get better. If the team sucks, that doesn't mean those who care about the program should just go away. That horrible logic. And unlike wanting to sell more ads, wanting the athletic program to get better is not actually an "agenda." A game on a Wednesday night at 7:00 PM against a terrible Colgate team when we are playing awful basketball ourselves is not exactly something I am going to clear time on my calendar for. Sorrey. And by the looks of the activity on here, it appears that a lot of others are starting to lose interest in this team as well. Sad! 1. If you did not clear your calendar, I guess you missed the game. That explains a lot. 2. What does "Sorrey" mean? 2. it's a reference to a running joke on the Pardon My Take podcast (a great satirical podcast on the hot sports take culture)
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2017 12:35:15 GMT -5
Thanks, hc2489. I had no clue.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 2, 2017 13:55:05 GMT -5
My grandfather grew up in the Bronx and was a huge New York Baseball Giants Fan. Granted the wound was still fresh, but until the day he died in 1979, he called the baseball team the New York Giants! Casey Stengel always referred to the Dodgers as "Brooklyn" If your grandad was as wise as the Ol' Perfesser, he was quite an intelligent guy!
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