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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 29, 2017 18:23:09 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/college-of-the-holy-crossMedian family income $171,000 Avergage income percentile 82 percent Students from the top 0.1 percent 1.7 percent Students from the top 1 percent 13 percent (includes the 0.1 percent) Students from the top 5 percent 40 percent Students from the bottom 20 percent 4.1 percent First five values are typical for Patriot League. Sixth value is among the highest for PL BC, percentage wise, has more rich kids and fewer poor kids. Georgetown is significantly higher than BC HC's ranking in percentage of students from the top 1 percent is 37 of 65 elite colleges. Hc's ranking of students from the bottom 20 percent is 20th of 65. . .
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 29, 2017 19:19:47 GMT -5
Very very interesting
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Post by hcgrad94 on Aug 29, 2017 19:46:08 GMT -5
Sarasota?
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Post by hc87 on Aug 29, 2017 23:32:49 GMT -5
Not really sure of the point of this post/study....are we celebrating (or lamenting?) that HC is now the province of the well-to-do or the soon to be well-to-do?
Are we really slapping ourselves on the back that 4.1% of our students come from less fortunate situations?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 30, 2017 5:04:16 GMT -5
This may just be a case of data . . . . . not information. What will be interesting is to see how this thread and discussion develops.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 30, 2017 5:58:19 GMT -5
Bracketing HC at 33 on median family income were Northwestern and Haverford. BC was 21, Villanova 20, Bucknell was 16, Lafayette 14, Georgetown was 6, Colgate was 2.
Bracketing HC at 20 on percentage of students bottom fifth in income were Swarthmore and Bryn Mawr. BC & Georgetown were 35, Colgate was 47, Villanova 51, Bucknell 52, Lafayette was 62, Notre Dame 63,
^^^ Rankings of 65 'Other Elite", Ivies excluded
Ranked by median family income, out of 79 Massachusetts Schools
1. Tufts
2. BC
3. Williams
4. HC $170,700
5. Harvard
6 Amherst
13 MIT
Ranked by percentage of students from bottom fifth of income, 79 Massachusetts schools
40 MIT
49 Williams
55 Amherst
58 Harvard
63 HC 4.1 percent
71 BC
73 Tufts
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 30, 2017 6:46:08 GMT -5
And how do legacies impact all this?
For example, a kid whose parents are Harvard grads with the kid going to Harvard probably impacts these numbers.
How about affirmative action?
SAT-optional?
Where the kids graduated high school? Isn't a prep school grad more likely to go to an Ivy? Those kids would seem to come from more moneyed families.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 30, 2017 7:04:04 GMT -5
Is there anything surprising or noteworthy in this data?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 30, 2017 7:28:17 GMT -5
There is quite a bit of information on legacies at Harvard. The Crimson surveys each incoming freshman class, and the response rate is high (most of the class). > 57 percent of the Harvard class of 2020 surveyed reported receiving financial aid > 26.6 percent of the legacies (one or both parents) reported having family income over $500000 > About 73 percent of the enrolled class was non-legacy, i.e., no parent, sibling, or relative (grandparents, aunts, uncles) attended Harvard > 14.6 percent of the entering class had one or both parents attend Harvard features.thecrimson.com/2016/freshman-survey/makeup/"Typical" Harvard financial aid.for class of 2021 was $53750 in grants and Harvard-related employment during term ^^^ This is probably about $15,000 more than the average HC financial aid package, which for the HC class of 2020, included about $5,000 in Federal loans. |
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Post by hcpride on Aug 30, 2017 10:45:17 GMT -5
Schools such as Harvard and Yale have reputations as very generous in terms of financial aid among prospective students. On several occasions I have seen middle class/upper middle class students offered 0 at BU/Northeastern and upwards of 40-50k HYP. (Of course this type of kid gets tempting merit aid at BU/Northeastern but frequently not at the level of financial aid offered by HYP).
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