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Post by purple1 on Dec 14, 2017 0:20:52 GMT -5
I believe Chesney's age, experience and school he is coaching at are all positives he brings to the Holy Cross position. He will assemble a good staff within the budget constraints at HC. He will receive input from ND head coach, Brian Kelly if he wishes. This will be a young, hungry staff looking to be ambitious for their futures - reminds you of Coach Duffner's staff. His connections run deeper than people are aware of and luckily his family enjoys the Worcester area. I think people on this board should give support to both ADNP & Chesney for doing their "due diligence" and not making an impulsive decision, as many schools and coaches with money to throw around have a habit of doing.
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Post by worcester on Dec 14, 2017 0:21:34 GMT -5
In the late 70s both Army and Iona had decent hoop teams with up and coming coaches at the D1 level....Coach K at Army and Jimmy V at Iona. It wasn't that great of a stretch that they both ended up in the ACC.....Chesney going to HC from AC is more of a stretch....he has no D1 experience, football is a much more involved sport logistically...Coach K and Jimmy V were much better prepared for the jump they took than Chesney is imo.... Again, what makes you think he wold be a good OC at the FCS level?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 14, 2017 0:23:34 GMT -5
He can't answer worc b/c he's never seen AC play.
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Post by worcester on Dec 14, 2017 0:25:51 GMT -5
He can't answer worc b/c he's never seen AC play. exactly. also, Chesney was not involved in the offense at Assumption. His strength lies in the defense.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 0:27:12 GMT -5
Ultimately....it's a "lazy choice" imo....picking a VERY local guy who has had success at basically a school that plays very small-time football in a national sense.
The staff he will assemble will not in any way resemble the quality of staff that Carter and Duffner had....and that's out of Chesney's hands in many ways.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 0:29:27 GMT -5
I don't have to have seen freakin Assumption play....I know they scored a lot of points...hence my belief is offense is his forte.
I'll say this...a kid i coached in high school beat his team last year.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 14, 2017 0:31:09 GMT -5
I'll say this...a kid i coached in high school beat his team last year. Hahahahahha!!!!!
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Post by worcester on Dec 14, 2017 0:34:08 GMT -5
I don't have to have seen freakin Assumption play....I know they scored a lot of points...hence my belief is offense is his forte. I'll say this...a kid i coached in high school beat his team last year. they didnt give up alot of points so why dont you think defense is his forte? Not sure what a kid you coached in h.s beating AC has to do with anything but Im sure there's a connection.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 0:34:17 GMT -5
I'll say this...a kid i coached in high school beat his team last year. Hahahahahha!!!!! True....
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 0:38:54 GMT -5
Basically goes to the point at how "small" this job has become sadly.....Billy Kavanaugh is a great kid and a great coach at Bentley....but I don't see him as ready for the HC job, yet.
But here we are with some of us anointing Chesney as the savior of HC football.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 14, 2017 0:45:37 GMT -5
I don't have to have seen freakin Assumption play....I know they scored a lot of points...hence my belief is offense is his forte. I'll say this...a kid i coached in high school beat his team last year. His OC just left him to take the head job at Endicott. I wonder if he would go to Holy Cross after being on the job for two weeks or so to reunite at HC.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 14, 2017 0:50:16 GMT -5
I don't have to have seen freakin Assumption play....I know they scored a lot of points...hence my belief is offense is his forte. I'll say this...a kid i coached in high school beat his team last year. One of TWO losses on the year. The other loss was in the final eight on the road to a team which was undefeated. I think Holy Cross would be happy right now to just get to the tourney in football. The one thing with Chesney is he brought in D-1A transfers at Assumption but would he be allowed to do that at HC?
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 0:51:21 GMT -5
Again, I'm not "anti-Chesney" just dismayed that our national search will end up with a guy with no HC ties, who has only coached at the D2/D3 level in New England as our next head coach.
Very disappointing...but probably not surprising given our downward spiral in our major sports over the last 30+ years.
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Post by worcester on Dec 14, 2017 0:51:36 GMT -5
I don't have to have seen freakin Assumption play....I know they scored a lot of points...hence my belief is offense is his forte. I'll say this...a kid i coached in high school beat his team last year. His OC just left him to take the head job at Endicott. I wonder if he would go to Holy Cross after being on the job for two weeks or so to reunite at HC. good question. gutsy move if he did
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 14, 2017 0:53:17 GMT -5
Basically goes to the point at how "small" this job has become sadly.....Billy Kavanaugh is a great kid and a great coach at Bentley....but I don't see him as ready for the HC job, yet. But here we are with some of us anointing Chesney as the savior of HC football. Your boy Kavanuaugh doesn’t have three straight NCAA appearances including two conference championships in the last three seasons!
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 0:56:55 GMT -5
My boy Kavanaugh has much more experience at the D1 level though...again, I don't think he's ready for the HC job either...but in many ways he's better prepared for it than Chesney is imo.
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Post by worcester on Dec 14, 2017 0:57:14 GMT -5
Basically goes to the point at how "small" this job has become sadly.....Billy Kavanaugh is a great kid and a great coach at Bentley....but I don't see him as ready for the HC job, yet. But here we are with some of us anointing Chesney as the savior of HC football. Your boy Kavanuaugh doesn’t have three straight NCAA appearances including two conference championships in the last three seasons! Kavanaugh is a great guy and has done a good job at Bentley. However, he is 21-22 and Chesney is 38-11 during the same time period.
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Post by worcester on Dec 14, 2017 0:59:28 GMT -5
Your boy Kavanuaugh doesn’t have three straight NCAA appearances including two conference championships in the last three seasons! Kavanaugh is a great guy and has done a good job at Bentley. However, he is 21-22 and Chesney is 38-11 during the same time period. i guess much more D1 experience doesn't mean that much does it?
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 1:01:14 GMT -5
Kavanaugh is a great guy and has done a good job at Bentley. However, he is 21-22 and Chesney is 38-11 during the same time period. i guess much more D1 experience doesn't mean that much does it? Bentley beat Assumption this year...just sayin'
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Post by worcester on Dec 14, 2017 1:03:32 GMT -5
i guess much more D1 experience doesn't mean that much does it? Bentley beat Assumption this year...just sayin' Miami beat the Pats this year too.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 14, 2017 1:07:20 GMT -5
i guess much more D1 experience doesn't mean that much does it? Bentley beat Assumption this year...just sayin' * w/AC playing their #2 QB...just sayin', since you don't in any of the dozen times you've said this.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 1:09:13 GMT -5
Point being....there is no real difference between a Kavanaugh and a Chesney....both are good coaches...neither is ready for the Holy Cross job....than again maybe they are and we've just basically given up on having a serious D1 football program.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 14, 2017 1:10:40 GMT -5
i guess much more D1 experience doesn't mean that much does it? Bentley beat Assumption this year...just sayin' And Holy Cross beat New Hampshire.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 14, 2017 1:18:44 GMT -5
Bentley beat Assumption this year...just sayin' And Holy Cross beat New Hampshire. And therein lies the problem....as a program, we aren't that far away.....sadly we are going to end up (imo) with a coach (due to perception, $$$ etc) that won't be able to get us over the top imo.....selecting Chesney is such a small-time move. The school in general has to take a long hard look at what we are doing with our football program (and athletics in general)
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 14, 2017 1:34:36 GMT -5
Point being.... there is no real difference between a Kavanaugh and a Chesney....both are good coaches...neither is ready for the Holy Cross job....than again maybe they are and we've just basically given up on having a serious D1 football program. No real difference, other than that Chesney has won 73% of his games in the NE-10 and Kavanaugh has won 49% of his games in the same conference. The real question is, what does a guy like Chesney need to do to be "ready" for the Holy Cross job? Become a coordinator in the Ivy League? Become a head coach at some lesser 1-AA school (it would be awfully tough to find a lesser 1-AA conference than the PL)? We are who we are right now, and we can't pretend that we are a viable choice for someone with a "perfect resume." We need to be ahead of the curve on someone if we want to bring in a high level head coach (which comes with some risk). While I do agree that the entire search was botched from the start (from preparation prior to TG's official firing, to a road show to meet with totally unrealistic candidates, to taking a trip to Northern Ireland prior to conducting on campus interviews, to missing out an opportunity to host official visits prior to the early signing period, and on and on), I am excited to see what Chesney can do by injecting some fresh blood and new perspective into the program. Much more so than if we just hired career Harvard guy Joel Lamb or career assistants Terry Malone & Lee Hull.
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