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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 22, 2017 9:08:08 GMT -5
Anyone remember how much the players loved Coach Willard? Me neither. One player mentioned that the first morning after the last game of his senior year was the first time he slept without worrying about being late for a meeting. There's team respect with Carmody's team, that's all that counts imo. Today would be a good game to start a nice winning streak What a joke of a post. Go ask Torey Thomas what he thought about playing for RW.
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Post by ncaam on Dec 22, 2017 9:27:32 GMT -5
Any chance FHOFC RW could be cajoled to come back as interim defensive coordinator coach to teach the matchup zone? Couldn’t hurt.
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Post by cmo on Dec 22, 2017 9:35:05 GMT -5
Any chance FHOFC RW could be cajoled to come back as interim defensive coordinator coach to teach the matchup zone? Couldn’t hurt. is this sarcastic?
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Post by cmo on Dec 22, 2017 9:39:31 GMT -5
Anyone remember how much the players loved Coach Willard? Me neither. One player mentioned that the first morning after the last game of his senior year was the first time he slept without worrying about being late for a meeting. There's team respect with Carmody's team, that's all that counts imo. Today would be a good game to start a nice winning streak While I agree in theory, kids (and it's what they still are) are different today.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 22, 2017 9:44:22 GMT -5
I'm inclined to give Coach Carmody a little more time before concluding that Will Brown is a vastly superior coach All comparisons aside, put it this way -- through 77 games, I would have hoped that we would be much further along than where we find ourselves now. I understand that Carm stepped into a mess, but I also don't think anyone here (or at least those watching) can be really comfortable with the direction we are headed in. I do think that he has recruited some nice players -- and I haven't been this excited about a class since probably RJ and Devin (speaking of the current freshmen) -- but the play on the floor is a real cause for concern. We can't simply rely on "make shots" to win games. This is why -- as ugly as it was under Willard -- we were able to win games when "shots weren't falling" because our success was predicated on doing many more things to win games other than just hitting jumpers. This article should tell you everything you need to know about whether we should expect the change that you mention at the end of your post, SOV. www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/November-2017/How-Chris-Collins-Made-a-Winner-of-Northwestern-Basketball/
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Post by ericobeyyourthirst on Dec 22, 2017 9:59:59 GMT -5
What did Will Brown's first four years at UAlbany look like? In his fourth full season as coach, Albany put a serious scare into UConn in the NCAA Tournament. Jamar Wilson nearly took down the Huskies by himself. True, but his first year as interim head coach and the subsequent three years were pretty ugly. Imagine if UAlbany pulled the plug after that fourth year?
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Post by hchoops on Dec 22, 2017 10:02:24 GMT -5
Anyone remember how much the players loved Coach Willard? Me neither. One player mentioned that the first morning after the last game of his senior year was the first time he slept without worrying about being late for a meeting. There's team respect with Carmody's team, that's all that counts imo. Today would be a good game to start a nice winning streak While I agree in theory, kids (and it's what they still are) are different today. having coached HS kids for that time span, I disagree
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 22, 2017 10:16:59 GMT -5
RGS, there's little hope for you here. Will Brown is a superior coach in every single facet compared to Milan Brown. There's no argument to be made. I'm sure pretty much everyone on this board would agree with that statement. Possibly, but I don't necessarily agree (and I did not mention only MB - selective perception strikes yet again), so I am afraid you are wrong about "everybody" as well. Brown is a good coach, but HC has still beaten his teams more often than the other way around. HCBC holds an edge over him. True, Brown does not coach at HC so I guess that put him up there for you. I would take the coach that can win games over a coach who is superior in every "facet of the game" but loses to him.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 22, 2017 10:43:06 GMT -5
In his fourth full season as coach, Albany put a serious scare into UConn in the NCAA Tournament. Jamar Wilson nearly took down the Huskies by himself. True, but his first year as interim head coach and the subsequent three years were pretty ugly. Imagine if UAlbany pulled the plug after that fourth year? I'm not sure 1) just how bad of shape Albany was in when Brown took over, and 2) was it apparent that Albany was taking the right steps to becoming a solid program in his first few seasons? Let's bear in mind that Albany's first season at the D1 level was 99-00. Brown's first season as interim coach was 01-02. The circumstances were very different compared to HC. Since the 04-05 season, Albany has been a top 200 Pomeroy team for 11 of 14 seasons. Pretty good for an America East school.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 22, 2017 10:57:07 GMT -5
Will was a terrific HS player, all-state, averaged 35 ppg as a senior.. playing for a fine coach, his dad Bill at Miller Place HS in suffolk.. Unfortunately illness derailed his college career at Penn, but finished with a strong end at Dowling College
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Post by ericobeyyourthirst on Dec 22, 2017 11:18:13 GMT -5
True, but his first year as interim head coach and the subsequent three years were pretty ugly. Imagine if UAlbany pulled the plug after that fourth year? I'm not sure 1) just how bad of shape Albany was in when Brown took over, and 2) was it apparent that Albany was taking the right steps to becoming a solid program in his first few seasons? Let's bear in mind that Albany's first season at the D1 level was 99-00. Brown's first season as interim coach was 01-02. The circumstances were very different compared to HC. Since the 04-05 season, Albany has been a top 200 Pomeroy team for 11 of 14 seasons. Pretty good for an America East school. Valid Points - and I expected a lot more from Carm by year 3 when he took over the program. The fact to date that he's gotten nothing out of his sophomore class and KC has not improved since year one has put a lot of pressure on the freshman class (whose early returns look good), this season has been a disappointment. Will Brown KenPom rankings: 2001: Doesn't exist (interim year) 2002: 314 2003: 311 2004: 311 2005: 161 There was very little progress to Brown's teams until he got his recruits experienced and coached up. I love Will Brown, but let's not pretend he's Brad Stevens here. He needed to upgrade the overall talent on the roster before they could be a good team, I think HC fans need to be patient as they are in a similar boat. Let's see some progress out of the freshman in the league schedule before write off BC as a coach. PS. The defense is atrocious
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Post by hchoops on Dec 22, 2017 11:29:20 GMT -5
i am disappointed also with last season and this thus far, though the freshmen show much promise, but let us not forget we did win the PLC two years ago
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 22, 2017 12:51:51 GMT -5
hoops. It is nice that someone admits remembering that title.
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Post by ncaam on Dec 22, 2017 12:53:17 GMT -5
Any chance FHOFC RW could be cajoled to come back as interim defensive coordinator coach to teach the matchup zone? Couldn’t hurt. is this sarcastic? . no
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Post by ncaam on Dec 22, 2017 12:55:11 GMT -5
hoops. It is nice that someone admits remembering that title. May be seen as the apex of the CBC era.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 22, 2017 12:58:44 GMT -5
Quite possibly. but I cannot claim to know the future, as some posters seem to be able to do. I am watching the frosh develop and JF is a like new player this year. He seems to get better every game. I'll wait until next year (as many said would be needed with such a young team) before making any final judgments about HC's future.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 22, 2017 13:35:25 GMT -5
It is so sad that some posters appear to be hoping that the team will do poorly to support their agendas and so they can be seen as experts or all-knowing.
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Post by ncaam on Dec 22, 2017 13:40:19 GMT -5
Predicting human performance is an acquired skill. Also knowledge is power.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 22, 2017 13:41:54 GMT -5
Predicting human performance is an acquired skill. Quite true and, at best, a very inexact science. It seems that some in this regard are slow learners...so the like to substitute opinion for fact if it can make them look better.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 22, 2017 13:44:14 GMT -5
It is so sad that some posters appear to be hoping that the team will do poorly to support their agendas and so they can be seen as experts or all-knowing. I don't think any Holy Cross fan would be "hoping" that we are even close to as bad as we are right. Remember, we're the sickos who would rather watch a Patriot League game on a crappy stream on a Wednesday night than watch an ACC game. I would prefer to be dead wrong about Carmody's fit for the job at HC, as I'm sure would be the case for any of the other "haters." The "haters" being "right" about Carmdoy means nothing more than bad basketball and continued losing seasons -- something that nobody is wishing for.
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Post by possum on Dec 22, 2017 14:38:46 GMT -5
If Charles ineffectiveness is the result of injury as many posters seem to think, I have no idea why he wasn't shutdown after the New Hampshire game to give him 3 full weeks to heal and get ready for PL play.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 23, 2017 12:23:43 GMT -5
I believe it was posted that freshman Jordan Walker of Seton Hall was transferring. Well he is playing for the Hall today vs Manhattan
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 23, 2017 12:30:00 GMT -5
I believe it was posted that freshman Jordan Walker of Seton Hall was transferring. Well he is playing for the Hall today vs Manhattan It was not posted (IIRC) that he was transferring. He did, however, state that he had withdrawn from the team. His bargainig position is strong, with so many others off the team. I am sure he is back with a guarantee of more playing time.
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Post by unhfan on Dec 30, 2017 13:25:47 GMT -5
Brown up 1 on Northwestern in 2 nd half! The last time Brown beat a Big 10 School was in 2007! They beat Northwestern coached by Bill Carmody!
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Post by ncaam on Dec 30, 2017 15:52:32 GMT -5
Refs try to give Boston College the game but the Eagles choke out. Sad, so sad!
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