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Post by joe on Jan 5, 2018 10:30:35 GMT -5
My only recruiting criticism is like of size, a true ready to play center, tall and strong, as we have seen at other schools, including Lehigh, Bucknell, etc. I understand the difficulty of recruiting one at this level, particularly given the AI and the nuances of the position within the framework of the PO. Still need one though. We have enough 1s, 2s, 3s, and 4s to go around. How about a big man? Transfer opportunities? The staff made this effort with Stevens. Obviously, it has not worked out thus far. Bigs are often projects. Some work, others do not. That's true, but it's not an excuse. We won't contend for a PL championship, nor elevate the program, without a run of good centers. It's not just "unlikely." It's impossible. In fact it's insane to go on like this. How can we expect to ever get a rebound against a legit team? If we're giving up the offensive boards, we really ought to get a few defensive rebounds on occasion. Are there any transfer cases from high majors? Centers who are good but playing behind someone even better and who might not see the PT they had expected? |
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Post by hchoops on Jan 5, 2018 10:48:04 GMT -5
FCMB left the cupboard bare? Nay, nay nay. It was CBC himself. No Hahn, no Proctor, not Kostecka, all pretty good FCMB recruits. Instead we "whiffed". MM in the NBA. DD touring Europe and making a good living. Matt Husek's Dad was at the Lafayette game. Said Matt is #5 scorer in his pro league (don't know how good a league it is). Five wins in March with FCMB players for a coach who did not think a team like that should go to the dance because they did not win their league. Let me preface my remarks by saying I have never even hinted the Coach Brown left the cupboard bare. As you pointed out, that cupboard is what took the team dancing a couple of years ago. I have said many times on this board that I do not think the unbalanced classes are a recipe for long term success. Much of that was set in play before Coach Carmody got here. (BTW - I am not blaming Coach Brown for Carver getting a severe concussion or O'Shea's uncle getting a D-I job - Stuff happens). You could reasonably argue that Coach Carmody should not have used one of the six frosh scholarships and sat on it so there would be at least one frosh next year. It certainly seems as if that was the plan when signing 5 early. Then came the opportunity to get Grandy late. He seemed too good to pass up. |
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Post by possum on Jan 5, 2018 10:49:09 GMT -5
Tom how was Kostecka never coming here, he's a sophomore and we gave 3 scholarships to that class so there were plenty of spots open, Kostecka committed as a junior in high school and de-committed after Carmody got job.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jan 5, 2018 10:54:32 GMT -5
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Post by possum on Jan 5, 2018 11:08:18 GMT -5
That may be the case but it wasn't due to a lack of scholarships, would also like to know if we tried to re-recruit him, since he was injured a good part of junior season in high school maybe Carmody thought he could do better. He has played well at Loyola but has missed time due to injury each season, would have been a home run in this sophomore class
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Post by Tom on Jan 5, 2018 11:35:50 GMT -5
Tom how was Kostecka never coming here, he's a sophomore and we gave 3 scholarships to that class so there were plenty of spots open, Kostecka committed as a junior in high school and de-committed after Carmody got job. My bad. I did not recall anyone being committed to the class of 2020 and de-committing I still think it is ingenuine to say that this team stinks because Coach Carmody is to blame for chasing away stud recruits. It is reasonable to say we're 3-10 because we're not using the best coaching strategies. It is reasonable to say (although I would not a-write off an underclassman or b-publicly call out teenagers or 20 year olds by name) that we're 3-10 because our recruits simply aren't good enough. That's what messageboards do. I may or may not agree with postitions, but I get the fact that reasonable people can have different opinions. I do not think it is reasonable to say we're 3-10 because the coaching staff drove off all of stud recruits |
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Post by timholycross on Jan 5, 2018 11:40:47 GMT -5
Funny thing is, a prototype big guy in Carmody's system would have been Hahn. No way he will end up shooting as many 3s at Omaha as he would have here.
And teamed up with Husek last year? Would have caused opponents problems.
Ah, what could have been.
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Post by ncaam on Jan 5, 2018 12:23:16 GMT -5
Tom how was Kostecka never coming here, he's a sophomore and we gave 3 scholarships to that class so there were plenty of spots open, Kostecka committed as a junior in high school and de-committed after Carmody got job. My bad. I did not recall anyone being committed to the class of 2020 and de-committing I still think it is ingenuine to say that this team stinks because Coach Carmody is to blame for chasing away stud recruits. It is reasonable to say we're 3-10 because we're not using the best coaching strategies. It is reasonable to say (although I would not a-write off an underclassman or b-publicly call out teenagers or 20 year olds by name) that we're 3-10 because our recruits simply aren't good enough. That's what messageboards do. I may or may not agree with postitions, but I get the fact that reasonable people can have different opinions. I do not think it is reasonable to say we're 3-10 because the coaching staff drove off all of stud recruits Not ingenuine at all. No one called them stud recruits. Just better than what CBC brought in. With those 3 I believe we would have more wins at the moment. |
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2018 12:44:09 GMT -5
"They are freshmen...I know you are thick, so I forgive your failure to comprehend my point." IMHO, very kind of you '43.   |
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Post by Tom on Jan 5, 2018 13:38:20 GMT -5
Not ingenuine at all. No one called them stud recruits. Just better than what CBC brought in. With those 3 I believe we would have more wins at the moment. Perhaps the team would be better than 3-10 with those 3 instead of Charles, Zignorski, and the last scholarship guy of 2020 (or Grandison if Cohen was the last 2020 offer). I'm disputing the contention that Coach Carmody is at fault because those three aren't here |
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Post by crusader1970 on Jan 8, 2018 15:46:35 GMT -5
Our first 4 games in the PL are: Colgate @ Lafayette @ Lehigh Loyola With the exception of Lehigh all these games are winnable. I'd love to see us go 3-1 and get the season back on track. My sense is that, if we end up 1-3 or 0-4, this season could start to head down a very dark path. It is time for KC and JF to step up and show the freshmen what it takes to win. Without their immediate strong contribution I do not see a way that this team will right the ship. Tonight has got to bring a "W" or I am afraid to project what lies ahead for the remaining 15 games. |
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