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Post by nhteamer on Jan 3, 2018 12:40:11 GMT -5
.......the balls to the wall attitude of a Hochstein, Vicens, Curry?
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Post by trimster on Jan 3, 2018 13:00:56 GMT -5
Mary a one although Butler has potential. I'll always remember our play by play guy on WTAG Radio, Bob Gamere, referring to Keith as a bull in china shop.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 3, 2018 13:40:46 GMT -5
AB is pretty aggressive and fearless, from what I have observed. I don't think we'll see him backing down from anyone or any situation.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 3, 2018 13:51:25 GMT -5
Butler.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 3, 2018 14:06:04 GMT -5
We desperately need a shift in recruiting philosophy to re-focus on defense, toughness, and building a roster of complementary pieces.
Just throwing scholarship offers at anyone who looks like they can shoot is just digging us a deeper and deeper hole.
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Post by dadominate on Jan 3, 2018 14:39:32 GMT -5
.......the balls to the wall attitude of a Hochstein, Vicens, Curry? we should not let the disappointing cloud of the season so far (especially last night's pathetic performance) obfuscate the fact that austin butler appears to be as tough as any holy cross player i have known personally or seen in my 25 years or so of following holy cross basketball. and he's a freshman. butler is the only player on the roster who consistently boxes out, gets his body on an opponent, hits the floor with regularity, seeks to draw physical contact (benzan also does this to a lesser degree), and demonstrates the "balls to the wall" attitude to which nht refers. he reminds me of rj evans, who was as physically tough of a 6'3 player that you'll find anywhere, but with a more fiery demeanor. toughness is always fostered when you're 6'3 or so (i don't think butler is 6'5), a rock solid 200+ lbs, and were a star football player in high school. i can't wait to watch butler develop physically and in his game over the next few years. |
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Post by nhteamer on Jan 3, 2018 14:45:31 GMT -5
thanks Dado
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 3, 2018 15:04:25 GMT -5
By the way-- if we are comparing today's players to prior greats (in this area) Hochstein, Vicens (saw him play dozens of games), and Curry I feel we should add Andrew Keister to the gold standard squad.
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Post by trimster on Jan 3, 2018 15:09:33 GMT -5
Another guy who I think was very tough in a quiet kind of way, was Jave Meade.
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Post by dadominate on Jan 3, 2018 15:33:34 GMT -5
i would also add ryan serravale to the list. his toughness is often overlooked because he played on such a tough team overall with curry and a bunch of other physical players (big pat whearty, sankes, szatko) but he was really, really tough both physically (good size, strength, and physicality for a point guard) and emotionally (UNBELIEVABLY competitive). curry posts here once in a while and i know he would back me up on serravale's toughness!
p.s. - i was actually reminded of serravale when watching another ryan from northfield mount hermon (greer) that we are recruiting.
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Post by ncaam on Jan 3, 2018 17:40:16 GMT -5
AT and MA. As a frosh mcadoo from unc gave MA an elbow. MA gave him one back. Last elbow from mcadoo
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 3, 2018 18:14:46 GMT -5
i would also add ryan serravale to the list. his toughness is often overlooked because he played on such a tough team overall with curry and a bunch of other physical players (big pat whearty, sankes, szatko) but he was really, really tough both physically (good size, strength, and physicality for a point guard) and emotionally (UNBELIEVABLY competitive). curry posts here once in a while and i know he would back me up on serravale's toughness! p.s. - i was actually reminded of serravale when watching another ryan from northfield mount hermon (greer) that we are recruiting. Fondly remember Ryan S. on the floor, with a big fist pump, after drilling a 3 and getting fouled early in the Kansas NCAA game. |
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Post by efg72 on Jan 3, 2018 18:18:28 GMT -5
Only two players close to the other three — Brian Reale and Stan Grayson. JErving called Stan the toughest defender he faced in college, and I would argue Brian should have been included on the initial list. The others are interesting but there is not the same mental and physical toughness demonstrated by those nhteamer established as the standard.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 3, 2018 18:29:26 GMT -5
Butler is no joke. Really like him. He posted a photo from the Hart Center at 3:00 this morning.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2018 18:55:37 GMT -5
Mary a one although Butler has potential. I'll always remember our play by play guy on WTAG Radio, Bob Gamere, referring to Keith as a bull in china shop. I'd say Butler without a doubt...but who is this "Mary" about whom you speak?  |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 3, 2018 19:01:32 GMT -5
Only two players close to the other three — Brian Reale and Stan Grayson. JErving called Stan the toughest defender he faced in college, and I would argue Brian should have been included on the initial list. The others are interesting but there is not the same mental and physical toughness demonstrated by those nhteamer established as the standard. No toughness team is complete imho without AK34 on it. |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 3, 2018 19:02:36 GMT -5
And his Dad is on my all time Parent team as well.  |
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Post by trimster on Jan 3, 2018 20:57:40 GMT -5
Sorry, meant to say nary a one. I forget about Brian Reale. Loved watching him play.
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Post by Ignutz on Jan 4, 2018 7:54:25 GMT -5
He only had a few years at HC (transferred from Fordham), but don't forget Joe Carballiera '75.
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Post by nhteamer on Jan 5, 2018 19:51:16 GMT -5
Clearly on this team it’s Butler
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Post by lou on Jan 5, 2018 19:55:36 GMT -5
Clearly on this team it’s Butler Were you watching Jehyve? |
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