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Post by CHC8485 on May 2, 2018 6:24:59 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 2, 2018 7:30:50 GMT -5
Very strange to bring in outside investigators. Not clear why the Athletic Department nor the school itself felt it could not properly investigate. To me, this hints at a transgression that may touch on the Athletic Department, and/or a failure to take action after information about potential wrongdoing was received previously. "Very serious" suggests a significant violation of NCAA rules.
And the information .provided to the PL and Lehigh, which prompted this investigation, was anonymously sourced. But clearly, it was sufficiently specific for Lehigh to take this action.
Second year for the head coach, who came from Dickinson.
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Post by CHC8485 on May 2, 2018 7:40:35 GMT -5
It could be but I'm not sure it necessarily means anything NCAA related. If the allegation said something along the lines of ... the coach was told and did nothing ... I could see someone anonymously telling the university and including the PL as a way to ensure action. That would also explain having an outside investigation. But who knows?
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Post by hchoops on May 2, 2018 7:41:28 GMT -5
It is always those big money sports at major schools that produce the biggest problems
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 2, 2018 7:51:18 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if it's something like "hazing."
Due to cell phone videos and social media, things that are actually harmless and not a big deal can be taken completely out of context and cause a shtstorm for a school
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 2, 2018 8:25:34 GMT -5
I thought about hazing, then discounted it. Harvard and HC both investigated and took action about certain teams' inappropriate use of social media in recent years. Hard to conceive of hazing amorality rising to the level of "very serious" without such becoming the talk of the campus.
The situations that came to my mind were a very good female tennis player at Princeton, in which a family friend or booster (can't remember which) underwrote the cost of her attendance. Or the "U of Miami" booster who financially rewarded player performance after games. .
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 2, 2018 8:38:40 GMT -5
I thought about hazing, then discounted it. Harvard and HC both investigated and took action about certain teams' inappropriate use of social media in recent years. Hard to conceive of hazing amorality rising to the level of "very serious" without such becoming the talk of the campus. The situations that came to my mind were a very good female tennis player at Princeton, in which a family friend or booster (can't remember which) underwrote the cost of her attendance. Or the "U of Miami" booster who financially rewarded player performance after games. . So you think it's more likely Lehigh Field Hockey players are being paid than some type of "hazing"/party "incident? The "hazing" doesn't need to be serious for it to cause a shtstorm if there is video that could potentially hit the internet. (I use " " for hazing because the majority of college teams have some type of thing they do to "welcome" freshmen that is totally harmless, but still could be referred to as "hazing")
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Post by hcpride on May 2, 2018 8:38:48 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if it's something like "hazing." Due to cell phone videos and social media, things that are actually harmless and not a big deal can be taken completely out of context and cause a shtstorm for a school I don't know - hazing (even the lighthearted stuff) seems to be more of a guy thing but I could be wrong and the very lighthearted/welcoming stuff on the small team might not merit an investigation. Unless there is a reason the head coach can't simply look into it.
Given the fact essentially no fans attend field hockey games (outside of parents) and the team was 5-13 this year it is hard to imagine any 'cheating' took place in terms of recruits, etc. You never know, but how much pressure can there be to win at PL field hockey?
One throwaway line in the article (and this may be irrelevant) was this: "There are 18 players listed on Lehigh’s roster." That seems like a low number (11 players take the field).
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Post by Tom on May 2, 2018 9:48:20 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if it's something like "hazing." Due to cell phone videos and social media, things that are actually harmless and not a big deal can be taken completely out of context and cause a shtstorm for a school I don't know - hazing (even the lighthearted stuff) seems to be more of a guy thing but I could be wrong and the very lighthearted/welcoming stuff on the small team might not merit an investigation. Unless there is a reason the head coach can't simply look into it.
I know of field hockey teams that have various forms of hazing - mostly what I would call innocent. For example freshmen have to pick up all the generic team equipment after practice. I would hope most sane people would consider that no big deal, but technically it is hazing and as such a violation of the rules
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Post by alum on May 2, 2018 10:00:34 GMT -5
Recruit weekends have a lot of potential for problems.
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Post by bison137 on May 2, 2018 10:32:13 GMT -5
Wouldn't be surprised if it's something like "hazing." Due to cell phone videos and social media, things that are actually harmless and not a big deal can be taken completely out of context and cause a shtstorm for a school I don't know - hazing (even the lighthearted stuff) seems to be more of a guy thing but I could be wrong and the very lighthearted/welcoming stuff on the small team might not merit an investigation. Unless there is a reason the head coach can't simply look into it.
Various forms of hazing - often not serious - are not uncommon on women's teams.
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Post by bison137 on May 2, 2018 10:34:53 GMT -5
An article in the local paper on April 30th said:
"Lehigh University has opened an investigation into allegations a women’s field hockey coach has emotionally abused members of the team. The university has confirmed that an anonymous source alleged the coach was harshly intimidating and engaged in “fat shaming” of women field hockey players.
“The University has been made aware of allegations,” university spokeswoman Lori Friedman said. “We take such reports very seriously, and have authorized an external review of the Field Hockey program.” She said the university expects a comprehensive report on the findings of the inquiry “in the near future.”
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Post by hcpride on May 2, 2018 10:39:48 GMT -5
An article in the local paper on April 30th said: "Lehigh University has opened an investigation into allegations a women’s field hockey coach has emotionally abused members of the team. The university has confirmed that an anonymous source alleged the coach was harshly intimidating and engaged in “fat shaming” of women field hockey players. “The University has been made aware of allegations,” university spokeswoman Lori Friedman said. “We take such reports very seriously, and have authorized an external review of the Field Hockey program.” She said the university expects a comprehensive report on the findings of the inquiry “in the near future.” Well, that explains why the coach could not look into it as part of an investigation.
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Post by ncaam on May 2, 2018 10:50:48 GMT -5
Fat shaming, omigod, not that.
Mike Ditka to the Fridge....first you get fat, then you get slow, then you get gone.
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Post by Tom on May 2, 2018 11:19:40 GMT -5
An article in the local paper on April 30th said: "Lehigh University has opened an investigation into allegations a women’s field hockey coach has emotionally abused members of the team. The university has confirmed that an anonymous source alleged the coach was harshly intimidating and engaged in “fat shaming” of women field hockey players. Really? ? I thought every coach in every sport engaged in "fat shaming" of athletes who didn't have proper conditioning Coached have different ways of getting maximum effort out of athletes. Usually need to use different techniques on different players on a single team. One of those techniques is "harshly intimidating". This anonymous source should check out the dill instructor in the movie Full Metal Jacket
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 2, 2018 12:28:27 GMT -5
An article in the local paper on April 30th said: "Lehigh University has opened an investigation into allegations a women’s field hockey coach has emotionally abused members of the team. The university has confirmed that an anonymous source alleged the coach was harshly intimidating and engaged in “fat shaming” of women field hockey players. “The University has been made aware of allegations,” university spokeswoman Lori Friedman said. “We take such reports very seriously, and have authorized an external review of the Field Hockey program.” She said the university expects a comprehensive report on the findings of the inquiry “in the near future.” Insanity. ----- Lehigh local paper has the story on their field hockey team, but there is nothing published about HC basketball (+ any other possible sports) or lacrosse scandals. Tough being under the intense microscope of Bethlehem, PA.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 2, 2018 12:33:23 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 2, 2018 12:45:03 GMT -5
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Post by WCHC Sports on May 3, 2018 8:40:14 GMT -5
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Post by alum on May 3, 2018 10:10:20 GMT -5
You want a job as a women's college coach in 2018, you learn how to make sure your athletes are in shape without crossing a very difficult to find line. The issue is not weight, it's the fact that excess weight is likely proof of poor conditioning. As a general rule, if the athletes are in shape, this problem is probably non existent. The coach can set conditioning goals which the athletes can meet or not play. It can be as simple as that.
Words matter, too. If the coach says, "Hey, listen you heifer" to a woman who is 15 pounds over her ideal playing weight, she might well lose her job. We don't really know what happened here and I think that it is interesting that we all went to the fat shaming piece of the story. It is possible that there was other abuse on other topics which was worse. It is also possible that the coach is difficult and the players wanted her fired. Kids today, even D1 athletes, are used to being able to have their parents have teachers and coaches they don't like removed.
This is not terribly different that the HC men's lacrosse coaching situation.
Teen age and older girl athletes can be challenging. I recall when my oldest was a freshman in high school and was running cross country. I went to the first meet and figured out how many places on the course I could get to cheer the athletes. Most of the parents simply stood at the start/finish line. After the meet, my daughter told me that some of her teammates didn't want to be cheered for and couldn't understand why anyone would rush around the course as I had. I learned to cheer for some of the girls and not others.
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Post by rgs318 on May 3, 2018 11:10:26 GMT -5
As a cross country coach I saw that first hand. One runner ignored my instructions and said (privately, at least) that any such info should be available to her before the race...never during. I always wondered how I could let her know her place at the half-way point BEFORE the race started. Logic was never a big part of her personality.
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Post by rickii on May 3, 2018 13:34:46 GMT -5
Given the accusation....
Dallmeyer earned her B.A. in Psychology with a Personality/Social Concentration and a Certificate in Markets and Management from Duke in 2008. She later added a M.S. in Athletic Administration from Western Kentucky in 2012.
Ya just can't make this stuff up
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Post by timholycross on May 3, 2018 14:15:12 GMT -5
Given the accusation....
Dallmeyer earned her B.A. in Psychology with a Personality/Social Concentration and a Certificate in Markets and Management from Duke in 2008. She later added a M.S. in Athletic Administration from Western Kentucky in 2012.
Ya just can't make this stuff up Not surprising, there is a high school coach in Mass. who's written a book about coaching and motivating female athletes....and at least one place where he coached the girls couldn't stand him
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