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Post by Tom on Nov 25, 2019 9:10:20 GMT -5
Bump- Nickname and Logo to be unveiled today. Everyone is pretty much assuming Worcester Red Sox. I'll be surprised if it's something different. It is likely that if the team is the Worcester Red Sox, many people will shorten it to WooSox, just as the Pawtucket Red Sox were shortened to PawSox. One difference would be that people on the street came up with the abbreviated nickname and the team jumped on the bandwagon. My guess is that the team will announce WooSox as an official shortened nickname. I've always found it silly when someone/something is given a name and then the person who came up with the name tell 3rd parties that they want the 3rd party to use a totally different name. Almost like naming a building "Joanne Chouinard Luth Recreation and Wellness Center" and then telling students instead of making up their own nickname, they should call it "The Jo"
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2019 9:22:47 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 25, 2019 10:08:37 GMT -5
I know we have other buildings or wings or facilities named after non-alums, e.g. Linda Johnson Smith, the Hiatt (sp?) family, etc
I think with most happily married couples assets are considered to be held jointly regardless of who accumulated them.
Linda Johnson Smith example again
Yes, students will come up with another shortened name for the facility if they don't like "The Jo"
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2019 10:21:51 GMT -5
Sorry, I still hate it. Guess I am not wild about naming any building after a live person . . . . . with the exception of Fr. Francis J. Hart, S.J. But he was old and all knew he didn't have many more years. It was sort of "pre-posthumous" (just created a new word!). If Jo, was 85 years old, OK, fine.
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 25, 2019 10:33:10 GMT -5
1. Neither Jacob Hiatt nor B. Gerald Cantor went to HC. Irrelevant 2. Whether her money or not - she is a fairly successful Dentist - the person who donated the money wanted it named after her. Hiatt named the additions to Dinand library after his parents. 3. Really?? 4. As long as they don't call it the John - which I suppose is still a possibility for the Luth Athletic Complex - regardless of what they are "told" to call it, the students will come up with a nickname of their own if they don't like calling it the Jo.
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 25, 2019 10:39:54 GMT -5
BTW - I also do not like donors naming things after themselves, spouses, or friends - especially when they are still alive. Much prefer names after someone who made a significant contribution or impact on the lives of others particularly in the case of a college to the students who attend the college - Hart, Dinand, Fenwick, and even saints Campion, Loyola, Stein, but sadly thus is the way of modern philanthropy.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2019 10:47:13 GMT -5
So, you are basically saying I should ignore your first post because you agree with me on the bottom line.
Fine.
This whole naming a building or field after a live person especially with a tenuous connection to the College is an exercise in egomania. In fairness, I would bet hubbie insisted the place be named after her like Park did for his wife.
Still stinks unless named after MY wife!😂
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 25, 2019 11:11:11 GMT -5
Yes, I can envision students saying “let’s go up to the Mrs Sader 1970 and play some basketball”
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Post by Tom on Nov 25, 2019 12:03:51 GMT -5
Yes, students will come up with another shortened name for the facility if they don't like "The Jo" I think not. I predict they will act like sheep and do what they are told. My unsubstantiated guess is in the absence of being told to nickname it the Jo, they would have nicknamed it the gym
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Post by Tom on Nov 25, 2019 12:05:44 GMT -5
BTW - I also do not like donors naming things after themselves, spouses, or friends - especially when they are still alive. The vast majority of donors naming things after themselves do so when they are still alive
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2019 12:11:49 GMT -5
Few would disagree with this statement.
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 25, 2019 12:17:51 GMT -5
Sorry, I still hate it. Guess I am not wild about naming any building after a live person . . . . . with the exception of Fr. Francis J. Hart, S.J. But he was old and all knew he didn't have many more years. It was sort of "pre-posthumous" (just created a new word!). If Jo, was 85 years old, OK, fine. I'll know Fr. Hart appreciated the "pre-posthumous" naming of the Hart Center. And I bet he really appreciated it being named 10+ year pre-posthumously! So, you are basically saying I should ignore your first post because you agree with me on the bottom line. Fine. This whole naming a building or field after a live person especially with a tenuous connection to the College is an exercise in egomania. In fairness, I would bet hubbie insisted the place be named after her like Park did for his wife. Still stinks unless named after MY wife!😂 The counterpoints I raised in my first post were direct responses to your invitation to provide them, so no you can not ignore them. Had you said what you really meant in the first place - I can't stand the way my generation feeds their ego by donating money so they can name things after themselves and their spouses - I wouldn't have needed to write my first post. And I would very much enjoy going to the Mrs. Sader 1970 Wellness Center (or even the Mrs. Sader 1970 Broom Closet) as she is delightful and deserves (and has earned) any honor you can afford!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 25, 2019 12:22:10 GMT -5
BTW - I also do not like donors naming things after themselves, spouses, or friends - especially when they are still alive. Much prefer names after someone who made a significant contribution or impact on the lives of others particularly in the case of a college to the students who attend the college - Hart, Dinand, Fenwick, and even saints Campion, Loyola, Stein, but sadly thus is the way of modern philanthropy. Stein, IIRC, was paid for by the Hiatts. The idea of restricting philanthropy in this day and age is like preferring to curse the darkness rather than light a candle. And besides, there is a long tradition in the R. C. church of building things, like abbeys, as penance. William the Conqueror built the Battle Abbey at Hastings as 'penance' for defeating the English and killing the king.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2019 13:01:10 GMT -5
Oh, yeah! How 'bout those carpetbagging WooSox? [blame Tom for the digression! ]
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2019 13:04:02 GMT -5
I didn't really mean it. It was a rhetorical statement. My mind is closed on the subject.
Now, let's get back to the WooSox/PawSox.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 26, 2019 8:11:01 GMT -5
I didn't really mean it. It was a rhetorical statement. My mind is closed on the subject. Now, let's get back to the WooSox/PawSox. You cannot fathom the depth of my disappointment that the nickname is not the Wormsox. The brewery should have ponied up for the nicknaming rights. "A Piece of Mass in Every Glass!"
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 26, 2019 9:20:52 GMT -5
Tour of Polar Park, home of the WooSox. Wormtown is mentioned!!!!!
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Post by Tom on Nov 26, 2019 9:25:16 GMT -5
The team announced yesterday that the team will be named the WooSox but will retain the Red Sox moniker. Although it's an oxymoron WooSox will be an official nickname.
The logo is a smileyface swinging a bat. For those who forget local history, the little smiley face, that later became the original emoji, originated in Worcester MA back in the 60's
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2019 9:36:35 GMT -5
I thought Forrest Gump invented the smiley face and he was from down south somewhere. Are you saying the movie was inaccurate? 😳
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2019 9:39:45 GMT -5
😊
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 26, 2019 14:01:25 GMT -5
With Holy Cross being the only team in New England to win a National Championship in Baseball, I hope there would be a strong relationship in some capacity built with the team, particularly since Polar is on the edge of our campus.
Summertime will be enjoyable with two baseball teams in Worcester. Looking forward to the redevelopment and resurgence of the Wormtown.
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Dec 3, 2019 5:49:50 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Dec 3, 2019 11:32:44 GMT -5
Don't understand the proposal, when I saw the headine, thought they were making a play for the Revs, who would like a soccer only facility along the lines of 20-25K and have not been successful finding a site (for cheap, at least). Something with good commuter rail access (to get people to come down from Boston, where the Revs think their fan base is mostly) coupled with the ethnic population around Providence/Fall River/New Bedford might make a lot of sense.
A lower tiered franchise 20 miles away from the Revs doesn't seem that viable.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 3, 2019 16:23:49 GMT -5
Being a New Yorker who became a Yankees fan during the interregnum between Dodgers leaving and Mets creation, I still had a different perspective on Worcester. First, I always knew how to pronounce it as Mom was a native Worcesterite so it was bit of an ancestral home but even Mom called the city "a dump" and was happy to leave. So happy to see the city hitting its stride. Boston, on the other hand, has "no redeeming value." Red Sox? Bruins? Celtics? Pats? Discuss!
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Post by CHC8485 on Dec 3, 2019 16:37:49 GMT -5
First, I always knew how to pronounce it as Mom was a native Worcesterite so it was bit of an ancestral home but even Mom called the city "a dump" and was happy to leave. And given that she was living in Bay Shore at the time, that's really saying something!
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