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Post by CHC8485 on May 31, 2018 16:35:35 GMT -5
You guys saw the Who in the fieldhouse. I saw Hall and Oates, kinda lame, and Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes--not lame at all. Here is Southside singing "We're Having a Party," with special guest, the Boss. Sadly that's not at the Cross. That was a great Southside show. Never heard of them before - big fan since. Same can be said for local band that opened called "The Stompers" Another special guest from E Street - former Juke Steve Van Zandt As I recall, The Stompers also played a couple other major dances (Spring Ball, Baccalaureate Ball maybe?) in our years, Tom. Also I went to the wedding of a couple of HC grads (both class of '82) in 1986 with the reception at Mechanics Hall. And the band playing ... The Stopmers! That was quite a party.
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Post by alum on May 31, 2018 16:50:15 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 31, 2018 17:01:34 GMT -5
I thought it had been determined that the cost of much needed repairs far outweighed its value. No? True. But not if its principal purpose is to be a museum of memories.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 31, 2018 18:50:15 GMT -5
Anyone see Mountain with Leslie West in the Field House in early 70s? I did but can't remember the year. It was in the spring of 1971. I still remember Leslie West and Felix Papalardi rocking as they climbed the stage. Anyone remember Seatrain and Ten Wheel Drive?
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Post by sader1970 on May 31, 2018 19:05:01 GMT -5
I have a slightly different understanding than Phreek. I'm pretty sure I heard Fr. B state that the cost for a brand new building would be only marginally more expensive than rehabbing the fieldhouse ("Quonset Hut" to me ) and therefore the decision was made to pay that little bit more to get a brand new building. However, never heard what the total difference in expense would be ($1 million? $3 million? $20 million? . . . . that's a lot of wine! )
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Post by hchoops on May 31, 2018 19:30:06 GMT -5
Anyone see Mountain with Leslie West in the Field House in early 70s? I did but can't remember the year. It was in the spring of 1971. I still remember Leslie West and Felix Papalardi rocking as they climbed the stage. Anyone remember Seatrain and Ten Wheel Drive? I saw Genya Ravan and 10 wheel drive at the Fillmore East in the early 70s.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 31, 2018 20:42:34 GMT -5
10 Wheel Drive appeared in the Hogan Ballroom in the spring of either 1970 or 1971.
I remember Gladys Knight and the Pips in the Field House during the 1971-1972 year. Does anyone else remember ?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 31, 2018 22:21:30 GMT -5
I know Duke Ellington's band played on Parents Weekend one year.
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Post by hchoops on May 31, 2018 22:29:41 GMT -5
Lionel Hampton played for the ‘66 junior prom
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 1, 2018 1:14:58 GMT -5
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 1, 2018 1:26:29 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 1, 2018 7:06:15 GMT -5
I have a slightly different understanding than Phreek. I'm pretty sure I heard Fr. B state that the cost for a brand new building would be only marginally more expensive than rehabbing the fieldhouse ("Quonset Hut" to me ) and therefore the decision was made to pay that little bit more to get a brand new building. However, never heard what the total difference in expense would be ($1 million? $3 million? $20 million? . . . . that's a lot of wine! ) Perhaps Mr PS has joined the Father Mathew Society!!!. For those unfamiliar with said society, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Father_MathewI am unaware of whether there was ever a chapter on Mount St. James, but certainly there was reason enough for one! Father Mulledy supposedly had a fondness for a certain refreshment at a time when water supplies were not safe to drink, so he probably would have disapproved. And the colors for the Knights of Father Mathew were blue and gold, so the reprobates of the period were welcomed in South Bend. _________________________________ The cost difference between renovating the old and building a new seems to be $15+ million. My uniformed guess is that HC would not have announced a goal of $15 million by Dec 31 so that construction of the PAC and SRC could start, if donations for at least half that amount were not in hand. If HC could start construction of the new field house by May 2019, I think it could be open by August 2020. The PAC will take longer to build.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 1, 2018 7:29:49 GMT -5
Well, if there is a $15 M difference, that is not negligible in my mind and am guessing not in most people's mind. But, as they used to say: "A million here, a million there, and it starts to add up to real money." Perhaps that's the cost of abandoning tradition though the "fieldhouse" really never had a proper name attached to it.
Thanks for the "education," Phreek, and I am sure you can correct my quote above and attribute it to the proper congressional member .
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 1, 2018 8:40:40 GMT -5
Everett Dirksen??
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 1, 2018 9:08:13 GMT -5
I thought it had been determined that the cost of much needed repairs far outweighed its value. No? True. But not if its principal purpose is to be a museum of memories. Even when the object is gone, the memories still live on.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 1, 2018 11:57:35 GMT -5
Often attributed to Dirksen,but .... web.archive.org/web/20140127115225/http://www.dirksencenter.org:80/print_emd_billionhere.htmDirksen did apparently say this: "When I face an issue of great import that cleaves both constituents and colleagues, I always take the same approach. I engage in deep deliberation and quiet contemplation. I wait to the last available minute and then I always vote with the losers. Because, my friend, the winners never remember and the losers never forget."
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 1, 2018 13:02:05 GMT -5
OK, since Ev never said it and apparently no one else is getting credit for it, I am getting copyrighted for the "million" quote and someone else can take the "billion" quote. P.S. pretty sure it was Dirksen who my father said originated it. I can't ask him anymore for clarification.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 3, 2018 18:52:11 GMT -5
OK, since Ev never said it and apparently no one else is getting credit for it, I am getting copyrighted for the "million" quote and someone else can take the "billion" quote. P.S. pretty sure it was Dirksen who my father said originated it. I can't ask him anymore for clarification. Yogi Berra on a smaller scale...how many yogi-isms are there that he never said?
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Post by hchoops on Jun 3, 2018 19:06:14 GMT -5
Probably not as many that he did say that were not recorded
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Post by Ignutz on Jun 9, 2018 15:13:58 GMT -5
10 Wheel Drive appeared in the Hogan Ballroom in the spring of either 1970 or 1971. I remember Gladys Knight and the Pips in the Field House during the 1971-1972 year. Does anyone else remember ? Mid-70s: America / George Benson / Hot Tuna
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Post by DiMarz on Jun 10, 2018 19:12:16 GMT -5
Ziobro was a solid HS player at Scranton Prep and in HC intramurals. Played in HS with Duke star Steve Vacendak, who played in the ‘66 final 4 that Texas Western won. Ziobro's 2 sons were very good HS players, at Auburn HS (just up the road from HC)..Mike Ziobro beat the team I coached with a 3 at the buzzer to knock us out of the state playoffs..He became a very good hoops coach in the area and coached girls AAU hoops in the same program I did...
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 23, 2018 18:33:24 GMT -5
The latest issue of Holy Cross magazine has floor plans for the upper and main levels, but not the lower level. Only two basketball courts. Lots of irregularly shaped spaces. The indoor track looks more like a course on the Grand Prix circuit; six 'turns', one long straight, .chicannes. Would make for great Go-Kart racing! Public Safety gets a big suite. (No sign of a jail cell) No social gathering space that I can see.
The floor plans (1) seem to shrink the building; and (2) are too often, inefficient, irregular polygons.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 23, 2018 19:01:47 GMT -5
Since you obviously got an early (V.I.P./big donor/Cornerstone Society?) edition of the HC Magazine, can you scan/share what you are describing because it really sounds like it is going to be a lot of money not well spent.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 23, 2018 19:58:08 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 23, 2018 20:15:47 GMT -5
Since you obviously got an early (V.I.P./big donor/Cornerstone Society?) edition of the HC Magazine, can you scan/share what you are describing because it really sounds like it is going to be a lot of money not well spent. As crucis has posted a link to the magazine -- thanks crucis -- what is outlined below is redundant. _________________________________________________________________________________ I had to read the labels with a magnifying glass. So I'm not sure a scan would be helpful. The overall shape is a trapezoid. The slant part of the trapezoid is the north end. The floor plans are oriented north south, with the rectangular part of the trapezoid at the southern part of the building. The two courts are in the rectangular box (at the south end) at the msain level.. The upper level (above the courts) is open. The longest straightest segment of the running tack is along the east wall. The track appears to be suspended above the courts but may be at floor level in the fitness area. Four of the six 'turns' --- the chicane -- art the north end. There are two multi-purpose rooms, a 'spin' stdio, and a weights room on the main level. The general fitness area is irregularly shaped, and is at the north end of the upper level. At the northwest end of the main level is the public safety suite.
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