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Post by hc87 on Oct 9, 2018 13:23:17 GMT -5
Putting to rest the UNH thread on what we need to do to improve/be more competitive in this game which is only a few days away.
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 9, 2018 13:39:04 GMT -5
Well, there's no school this week so only athletes are on campus - how about we sneak in a little more practice and film study.
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Post by 6sader7 on Oct 9, 2018 13:44:13 GMT -5
Maybe we can leverage the additional available time to make some significant offensive changes...
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 9, 2018 14:50:54 GMT -5
I see only one change in the two-deep versus the UNH game:
Cornerback
UNH Game: Josh Hicks & Grant Holloman
Harvard Game: Grant Holloman and Josh Hicks
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Post by WCHC Sports on Oct 9, 2018 14:57:43 GMT -5
"Score points."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 17:07:03 GMT -5
1. Replace Wade with underclassmen that can give the team a spark or game plan with Blaise Bell for RPO, Wildcat, Option type of offense. Bell is a great athlete and it's silly that he is only getting a few touches a game. Obviously, he is not a pocket passer and would have to incorporate some wrinkles in the offense for him to take snaps. Bucknell has struggled in landing good recruits for decades, however, they make up for it by giving the ball to their best athletes at the QB position and having lineman dive at ankles. It's not pretty, but it gets the job done. We need to stop complaining about "talent" and devise some wrinkles that give our guys a chance. Personally, I would start Degenhardt and have some wrinkles that would enable Bell to be brought in (if all else fails).
2. Incorporate more motion, play action, misdirection plays, and take shots down field when opposition stacks box
3. Be more innovative on first down play calls
4. Have Ari Confessor (WR)/Chris Smith (OL) develop a viable game plan and demote Murphy to a position coach (I would just fire him due to horrendous outcomes this year and his poor resume, but that's me).
5. Be ready to bench players that are not performing and make statements. If you have to play all freshmen & sophomores, do it. At 1-5, Chesney might as well weed out the weak and start preparing for the future. Gilmore did this in 2004 and it led to great future results in 2005 and 2006. We only had players that completely bought into the system
6. Stop using the phrase, "The guys played hard". That is starting to mean absolutely nothing in the program and needs to end. We lost by 40 points, but the "guys played hard." What? Be completely honest with your players and build trust that way. Being positive all the time is silly and comes across as not genuine.
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Post by joutsHC77 on Oct 9, 2018 17:12:00 GMT -5
Bingo on #6!! Generals don’t say our guys tried hard when they’re getting slaughtered on the battlefield. Make improvements and stop the hype. Oh, and maybe read these threads to get realistic ideas!
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Post by 6sader7 on Oct 9, 2018 18:28:03 GMT -5
Number 6 shouldn't even need to be stated - Playing hard should be a given.
I watched the post-game press conference and Chesney seemed visibly a bit shaken up - Did not sound anything like the guy we heard from in August.
It's tough to build an entirely new offense (option, etc) into your offense mid-season without a bye week, etc.
I think we're over-complicating this to a degree. Largely on offense what I have seen is un-inspired / un-opportunistic play calling and an inability for our QB's to get the ball to receivers when they're open.
Start the young guy, spread the offense out - Run some crossers and some verticals and clear outs, some screens and leverage our RB's catching balls out of the backfield after they chip to slow down the pass rush (which I'm assuming will be robust for Harvard).
We need someone at qb who can throw the ball at least 35 yards downfield.
I remember against Fordham my Junior year we ran a play-action (with guard pulling) on the first play of the game and threw the ball 40 yards down the middle of the field for a TD.
We need some "wrinkles" like that in our gameplan.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 10, 2018 10:02:37 GMT -5
I would see it as Harvard 20 / HC 13 but I am an optimist.
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Post by crusader12 on Oct 10, 2018 13:40:08 GMT -5
41-0 Harvard
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2018 14:28:36 GMT -5
This is a critical game for the coaching staff imo....last OOC game of the season, another offensive no-show will hurt the overall team psyche imo.
In many ways, though maybe not fair, this game is the litmus test on how much we've progressed this year from summer camp to now. The last 4 PL games really won't give us a feel about this team as all 4 are pretty inept this season in way or another.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 10, 2018 14:37:38 GMT -5
As much as I hated to lose to Dartmouth, or anyone for that matter, an upset win over Harvard would be sweet to have wins over Harvard and Yale the same year. If I had to, I’d trade a loss to Dartmouth for a win over Harvard. Too bad it doesn’t work that way.
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 10, 2018 15:10:10 GMT -5
Harvard is better than us at every position - period ! to keep it close we will have to win the turnover battle, and come up with some wrinkles on offense. the playbook through the first six games will not get it done.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 10, 2018 15:14:05 GMT -5
Hope Coach Chesney reminds the team that they have to win out the rest of the schedule in order for them to have a winning season and to keep his own personal streak alive. With a little help from the offense, well more than a little; the special teams playing as they had earlier in the season with blocked punts, onside kick recoveries, maybe some really nice punt and kickoff returns; the defense playing like they have late in the games but doing so for 60 minutes; smart play by not shooting ourselves with turnovers and stupid penalties; they can beat Harvard and turn around what was a promising season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 15:21:15 GMT -5
I really hope that the two deep released this week is not accurate. If it is, I'd rather spend my time watching local, high school football on Friday.
It causes me too much rage to watch Murphy's play calling and Wade/Clifford execution.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 10, 2018 15:23:56 GMT -5
Why, 4crusader3?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 10, 2018 15:26:59 GMT -5
What specifically do you not like about the two-deep? Is it just the starting QB or are there other positions where you disagree with the coach?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 15:30:36 GMT -5
What specifically do you not like about the two-deep? Is it just the starting QB or are there other positions where you disagree with the coach? Why do we have two, upperclassmen in the two deep that have not produced this year? It defies any type of logic since we can't keep looking for different outcomes, by doing the same thing. I also believe it sends the wrong message to the team by continuing to play kids that fail to perform (fail to perform is a "nice" way to put it). Wade's performances in the first half have been so embarrassing this year that I don't understand how anyone with half of a brain would let it continue. Even if they did go with Wade, why not have an underclassmen at #2? We are 1-5 and Clifford has ZERO CHANCE at successfully leading this team in the future. I really hope for Chesney's sake that he is making changes/difficult decisions to change course for the final 5 games. I am going to be positive and believe that Murphy has been demoted and someone else is calling plays. |
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 10, 2018 15:52:50 GMT -5
If you check out the WATCH ESPN link to the game, you will see a capital H for Harvard and for Holy Cross? Why it is the Crusader, complete with shield, cape, helmet, plume and sword. Might that bring good fortune?
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 10, 2018 16:05:14 GMT -5
Geez, Rob, I know it's your birthday but next you'll be saying that wearing different color uniforms might make a difference in winning or losing! I mean, who would make that kind of statement?  |
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 10, 2018 16:07:28 GMT -5
LOL  Silly point, EVERYONE knows it is the color of the SOCKS that determines the ultimate outcome! It can at least annoy some who claim to follow the Cross and that in itself is a small victory, isn't it? |
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Post by HCFC45 on Oct 10, 2018 21:46:16 GMT -5
Happy Birthday classmate and wish you many more!!! ! |
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Post by joe on Oct 11, 2018 5:40:58 GMT -5
If I was around Friday night I would be at the game, as I always attend HC@Harvard, haven’t missed one in a while. Fortunately I cannot attend this week’s tilt. My blood pressure can use a week off, although I will probably end up watching on my phone, hoping “this is the week” we turn the program around for good. Insanity? HC football fans are a case study in masochism.
What are we, 1-5? Be nice to run the table and have a winning season. Can’t see that happening without a radical change in game plan, but I do not see the level of offensive creativity yet to think this is possible.
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Post by joutsHC77 on Oct 11, 2018 9:21:37 GMT -5
As I and others have posted, Coach Chesney is responsible just as CTG was. Bad offense? We can blame the OC all we want but Coach Chesney is complicit in the performance of said unit. Unsatisfactory performance by Dbacks, giving 10+ yards on coverage, blame DC and position coaches all we want but Coach Chesney is responsible. All head coaches are responsible for performances of their teams.
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Post by breezy on Oct 11, 2018 12:22:35 GMT -5
I had a very memorable experience that demonstrated that the person in charge is the one who bears responsibility for everything that happens in the organization under his control.
September 1970. As an enlistee in the National Guard, I am on active duty in the United States Army at Fort Dix, New Jersey. I had reported for active duty in June, and completed eight weeks of basic training in August. I was then assigned to another basic training company for on-the-job training as a clerk-typist. It was an easy gig. I had to report to company headquarters every morning at 6:30 AM so that I could type out the list of trainees who had gone on sick-call that day, and hand-carry that list to battalion headquarters a short distance away by 7:00 AM. After that, I simply waited to be given assignments by the company commander or the top sergeant, and in the afternoon I would sort the incoming mail for trainees so it could be distributed when the day's training had been completed.
It was a hot, steamy day -- humid and in the 90s. The company commander and the drill sergeants took the trainees out for training, but the company commander came back early because he was required to attend a change of command ceremony on another part of the base that afternoon. A new commanding officer for Fort Dix was taking charge, and all company commanders on base had to be present for the ceremony.
The drill sergeants decided, in spite of the heat, that it would be a good idea to make the trainees run back from their training session to the company barracks. Unfortunately, one trainee collapsed from heat exhaustion and had to be rushed to the base hospital. In other circumstances, that probably would have had no repercussions, but it turned out that the family of the trainee who collapsed had a close friendship with the Eisenhower family. (Indeed, a few days letter, while sorting the mail, I saw a letter addressed to this trainee with the embossed return address for Milton Eisenhower. For our younger posters, President Eisenhower had died the year before; Milton Eisenhower was his brother.)
As far as I know, nothing happened to the drill sergeants. Perhaps they had a note put in their personnel files, but they continued their work training the trainees as if nothing had happened. However, the company commander, who had nothing to do with the event because he was required to be elsewhere on the base at the time, was abruptly removed, and within days a new company commander was on the scene.
i thought then and still think today that there was something unfair in that -- but it did impress upon me that the person in charge is the one who gets the blame when anything goes wrong.
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