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Post by rgs318 on Dec 2, 2018 10:10:55 GMT -5
It may be that the "points scored" by Colgate off the interceptions were less a factor than the "points NOT scored" by JMU because of the interceptions.
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Post by purplepig on Dec 2, 2018 18:45:58 GMT -5
Colgate will be a big underdog but maybe they can pull this off. JMU got what it deserves, comeuppance.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 2, 2018 21:28:53 GMT -5
pig, why was JMU deserving of comeupance? I think I missed something.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 2, 2018 22:46:44 GMT -5
JMU's coach was offered the Charlotte job according to him
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Post by hc87 on Dec 2, 2018 23:11:47 GMT -5
Maine is playing (Weber St) at Ogden, UT Friday night....unreal.
I get how some like this format...championship determined on the field etc etc...but it just seems kind of absurd.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 3, 2018 6:10:27 GMT -5
So you won't be going to Ogden then?
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Post by hcpride on Dec 3, 2018 7:06:43 GMT -5
I suspect that the Maine community and fans are happy to be in this position (of course they'd prefer a home game as do all fans). Doubtlessly the Colgate community and fans feel the same way. Neither are surprised that they'll have to travel to play the best FCS teams in the nation in pursuit of a national championship.
Someday we will be in the enviable position of Maine and Colgate this year (winning our conference with a nice overall record, winning a home playoff game, and heading to the next round of the playoffs with a national championship goal).
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 3, 2018 7:21:16 GMT -5
From your mouth to God's ear.
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Post by gks on Dec 3, 2018 8:29:16 GMT -5
Maine is playing (Weber St) at Ogden, UT Friday night....unreal. I get how some like this format...championship determined on the field etc etc...but it just seems kind of absurd. This is an honest question...Are the NCAA D2 and D3 tournaments absurd too? This is the level that Holy Cross and the PL have chosen to play. They have a playoff. If teams don't like it they don't have to participate (see Ivies). Maine is not paying a dime for transportation to Utah. Holy Cross went to Spokane, WA to play in an NCAA tournament event. Was that absurd too?
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Post by hc87 on Dec 3, 2018 10:11:21 GMT -5
Maine is playing (Weber St) at Ogden, UT Friday night....unreal. I get how some like this format...championship determined on the field etc etc...but it just seems kind of absurd. This is an honest question...Are the NCAA D2 and D3 tournaments absurd too? This is the level that Holy Cross and the PL have chosen to play. They have a playoff. If teams don't like it they don't have to participate (see Ivies). Maine is not paying a dime for transportation to Utah. Holy Cross went to Spokane, WA to play in an NCAA tournament event. Was that absurd too? Difference being, hoop plays at the very highest level. The FCS is the right level...allow for games against Ivies, BC etc but the playoffs are superfluous imo
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Post by hcpride on Dec 3, 2018 10:25:39 GMT -5
This is an honest question...Are the NCAA D2 and D3 tournaments absurd too? This is the level that Holy Cross and the PL have chosen to play. They have a playoff. If teams don't like it they don't have to participate (see Ivies). Maine is not paying a dime for transportation to Utah. Holy Cross went to Spokane, WA to play in an NCAA tournament event. Was that absurd too? Difference being, hoop plays at the very highest level. The FCS is the right level...allow for games against Ivies, BC etc but the playoffs are superfluous imo So, for you it is not the travel (since national championships necessitate travel given the size of our nation) but rather the fact that FCS football is not the highest level of football so playoffs are superfluous?
That may not be a widely-held opinion - but I do know at least one HC alum who felt that it was better to give up football than to drop down to I-AA (since it was not the highest level of football and therefore not worth the great schollie expense/travel costs/facility maintenance/injuries/etc.). I'm sure there are a few alums who view the entire low-level FCS Patriot League football competition a bit superfluous too.
I guess that answers gks' first question too.
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Post by purplepig on Dec 3, 2018 18:10:46 GMT -5
pig, why was JMU deserving of comeupance? I think I missed something. Coach Houston, who apparently has taken the ECU job, suggested JMU should have been seeded ahead of Colgate. Perhaps that was an attempt at motivation. His point was related to JMU losing to UNH with Knight at QB while Colgate beat them without the QB playing. It seemed like a stretch.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 5, 2018 8:52:43 GMT -5
Interesting seeding- 3 Big Sky teams got byes and home games, 2 Missouri Valley, 1 CAA team, 1 Big South, 1 PL team. Guess the CAA didn't grade out as well as you would think it would have...
Hope Colgate & Maine are competitive next round.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2018 9:46:41 GMT -5
As do I. It may raise their spirits when HC beats them in hoops.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 5, 2018 10:15:38 GMT -5
Interesting seeding- 3 Big Sky teams got byes and home games, 2 Missouri Valley, 1 CAA team, 1 Big South, 1 PL team. Guess the CAA didn't grade out as well as you would think it would have... Hope Colgate & Maine are competitive next round. Yes, a record 6 CAA (1 champ, 5 at large) teams were good enough to make the playoffs but only one (CAA champ Maine) was ranked near the overall top of the playoff teams. Remarkable showing for the CAA in terms of number of very good FCS teams qualifying for the playoffs, not a year when they had some super teams (JMU, for example, had three losses heading into the playoffs).
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 5, 2018 17:57:53 GMT -5
Interesting seeding- 3 Big Sky teams got byes and home games, 2 Missouri Valley, 1 CAA team, 1 Big South, 1 PL team. Guess the CAA didn't grade out as well as you would think it would have... Hope Colgate & Maine are competitive next round. Yes, a record 6 CAA (1 champ, 5 at large) teams were good enough to make the playoffs but only one (CAA champ Maine) was ranked near the overall top of the playoff teams. Remarkable showing for the CAA in terms of number of very good FCS teams qualifying for the playoffs, not a year when they had some super teams (JMU, for example, had three losses heading into the playoffs). Evidence IMO that field needs to be dialed back as far as NCAA allows down to 20 teams from 24. 10 at-large and 10 auto.
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Post by sader1998 on Dec 5, 2018 21:13:47 GMT -5
Looks like the Colgate-NDSU game will be broadcast at noon Saturday on ESPN. Good exposure for the Raiders.
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Post by rickii on Dec 6, 2018 12:19:38 GMT -5
pig, why was JMU deserving of comeupance? I think I missed something. Coach Houston, who apparently has taken the ECU job, suggested JMU should have been seeded ahead of Colgate. Perhaps that was an attempt at motivation. His point was related to JMU losing to UNH with Knight at QB while Colgate beat them without the QB playing. It seemed like a stretch. So you should have clarified that your beef was with Coach Houston and not with the school or their football players.
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Post by bikeman on Dec 7, 2018 12:48:15 GMT -5
Colgate 28.5 point underdogs. Yikes.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 7, 2018 13:43:28 GMT -5
That spread might be worth a few bucks, hoping the Raiders can beat it.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 7, 2018 14:17:00 GMT -5
Colgate 28.5 point underdogs. Yikes. I'll take the points and bet Colgate
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Post by timholycross on Dec 7, 2018 15:11:38 GMT -5
Tough place to play, that Fargodome: "During the 2013 Furman playoff game, the crowd noise was measured at 115 decibels" That's loud, folks.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 7, 2018 16:24:48 GMT -5
Colgate 28.5 point underdogs. Yikes. Someone posted in AGS that since 2010 North Dakota State has won its FCS playoff games by an average score of 37-12
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 7, 2018 16:38:51 GMT -5
Raiders have arrived in N.D. and coach Hunt is meeting some media - hey, it's N.D., the folks out there are getting excited - This will be a very tall order - good luck to them twitter.com/ColgateFB
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Post by purplepig on Dec 7, 2018 20:05:17 GMT -5
Coach Houston, who apparently has taken the ECU job, suggested JMU should have been seeded ahead of Colgate. Perhaps that was an attempt at motivation. His point was related to JMU losing to UNH with Knight at QB while Colgate beat them without the QB playing. It seemed like a stretch. So you should have clarified that your beef was with Coach Houston and not with the school or their football players. No, I shouldn’t have. He was the coach. Anyway, enough said.
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