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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 21, 2018 20:56:33 GMT -5
He's not going to UMess.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2018 20:59:31 GMT -5
From your mouth to God's ear.
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 21, 2018 21:07:34 GMT -5
As much as I think, he should at least consider Umass if is offered. Why not try and better yourself, and maybe he could turn UMass around.
With that said, I hope he stays and it is hard to turn UMass around, because they are not in a conference.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 21, 2018 21:19:05 GMT -5
I think coach Chesney is too smart to even consider any offer from UMass at this time
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Post by deep Purple on Nov 21, 2018 21:27:24 GMT -5
I'm just curious as to what type of gig many of you think Chesney could end with up if he succeeds in his current role?
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Post by hc87 on Nov 21, 2018 22:37:13 GMT -5
Hard to say....usual path these days of a PL coach moving on is usually as a coordinator at a Power 5 program or a HC at a G5 program.
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 21, 2018 23:07:53 GMT -5
On what basis is Chesney even a thought right now for UMASS. We are talking like Chesney would even have a choice. Based on what from UMASS perspective? It’s not an option from UMASS perspective. It’s people in a chat room speculating. He just went 5-6 in the Patriot League. I love HC and think Chesney is taking them in the right direction but let’s pump the brakes on this nonsense. If he’s 8-3 or 9-2 with a loaded program in 3 years I completely get it. But IMO there is zero chance UMASS takes a flyer on Chesney right about now.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2018 6:31:34 GMT -5
It takes two to tango and I am not sure there are very many successful P5 OC/DC's who would want the UMass job nor do I think there are too many highly successful FCS coaches who would want the job. There may be a perception among those two groups that the position is a coach-killer and impossible to turn around as it is currently situated. Not saying there won't be some candidates from these two groups but that reality might fuel some speculation regarding slightly unusual choices.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 22, 2018 7:17:17 GMT -5
I find his thread a rehash of the one we see whenever some feel we have a good coach at Holy Cross. It is as if we feel that no good coach would ever choose to stay here and build a winning program. When CTG won the PL, there was an immediate thread speculating where he would go next because we were sure he would be lured away. Why not give it a rest, at last for a year or two more? Right now HC has a good coach, a growing strength in recruiting and a good future. Just enjoy it for a bit. Just one man's opinion.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all of you on CROSSPORTS!
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Post by hc80 on Nov 22, 2018 7:51:56 GMT -5
If Chesney is as smart as advertised, he would not even pick up the phone for UMass. Only guy taking that job is a career assistant or a retread looking to finish up a career. That job has no long term benefit for anyone! But maybe Whipple would be a good OC for Chesney!
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 22, 2018 8:19:14 GMT -5
Interesting speculation, 80. Another possibility is that this past year's OC, with more time and looking back at the season, could develop under Chesney's guidance.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2018 8:46:31 GMT -5
After TG was fired there was interesting speculation of who would want to take over a program down in the doldrums...would it be an FCS head coach retread or a very successful up and comer (OC/DC or DII coach)? One advantage HC had over where UMass is now is that it was at least a decent possibility the HC program could be rebuilt to win the PL (where the margins are tight) and thus not be a coach killer. www.masslive.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/11/b03f2739469478/umass-football-coaching-candid.htmlOn a slightly different topic, last year a few crossporters thought 40ish Coach Chesney was too young. CAA Coach of the Year from UMaine (this year's CAA champ) is 32. He's mentioned in the above link as a possibility at UMass.
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Post by cmo on Nov 22, 2018 11:43:18 GMT -5
I'm just curious as to what type of gig many of you think Chesney could end with up if he succeeds in his current role? Joe Moorehead path
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Post by deep Purple on Nov 23, 2018 7:47:08 GMT -5
I'm just curious as to what type of gig many of you think Chesney could end with up if he succeeds in his current role? Joe Moorehead path Moorhead was a fbs offensive coordinator before becoming Fordham's HC.
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Post by cmo on Nov 23, 2018 8:58:46 GMT -5
Moorhead was a fbs offensive coordinator before becoming Fordham's HC. True, but in similar fashion, I could see Ches as a special teams coach at a P5.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 23, 2018 14:01:26 GMT -5
I'm just curious as to what type of gig many of you think Chesney could end with up if he succeeds in his current role? Joe Moorehead path Brian Kelly path
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Post by hc87 on Nov 23, 2018 14:47:36 GMT -5
The Frank "Iron Major" Cavanaugh path?
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Post by trimster on Nov 23, 2018 16:24:47 GMT -5
I'm not so sure he will be given an opportunity just yet. He's been here for 1 year and went 5-6. I think we all agree he did a good job in his first year and is making in roads on the recruiting front, but I can't imagine he would be a hire at FBS quite yet. When he turns this around in 3 to 4 years we could be singing a different tune. I totally agree with Harry. I think Coach Chesney will get this ship turned around and in doing so maybe even save the football program from extinction but let's state the obvious. If HC lost any of the last 4 games, there be much grumbling from supporters. Those were 4 of the worst teams in D-1 football based on Jeff Sagarin ratings, and we came dangerously close to losing two of those games. Add the fact that we did lose to a team ranked lower than those 4, Bucknell, and I think we have to reign in the enthusiasm just a bit. I am anxious to see just what Bob Chesney can accomplish at HC but the fact the Crusaders went 4-1 in games against 5 of the lowest ranked teams in D-1 football, 1-3 against opponents I views as toss-ups and 0-2 against heavily favored opponents leads me to believe it's a bit early for the Bob Chesney to the BCS level express to gain traction. I think it's probably too early to view the results of the games vs the Ivies and UNH as disappointing. How we do next year vs those opponents will be more telling although still a bit early.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 23, 2018 16:42:13 GMT -5
I was thinking the Mark Duffner path...but he would have to be unbelievably successful (Duff was 60-5-1 if I trust Wikipedia) and even then this might be a different era and PL straight to ACC might be a bridge too far.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 23, 2018 18:37:52 GMT -5
What a pleasure it was to see those 60 victories, especially against Harvard and Princeton. The 5 losses were gut wrenching, as the team was capable of running the table in each of those years. The exception being the 1986 BC game.
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Post by deep Purple on Nov 23, 2018 20:31:20 GMT -5
Brian Kelly moved up to Central Michigan after winning two d2 national championships in a row at Grand Valley. It helped that Central Michigan at the time was horrendous and being nearby probably seemed the obvious hire. Craig Bohl won three national championships in a row at North Dakota St and he's currently the head coach at Wyoming. Hopefully Chesney has a tremendous amount of success over the next few years but if there's going to be a move up the ladder, at best it would be very low fbs. It may be better than umass but I can't imagine it being that much better.
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Post by cmo on Nov 23, 2018 21:59:48 GMT -5
FBS Coordinator is up the ladder
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 24, 2018 0:04:04 GMT -5
FBS Coordinator is up the ladder Depends on what 1A school it is. A P5 school- yes. Most G of 5 schools no.
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Post by wayback on Nov 24, 2018 10:57:30 GMT -5
Chesney has relatively young children and may not want to move them in school.
He has been in Worcester for a relatively long time. What if he likes it ?
I think we should all relax and enjoy the ride.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 24, 2018 11:56:15 GMT -5
Agree and that's why I posted:
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