purple71
Crusader Century Club
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Post by purple71 on Dec 20, 2018 7:31:06 GMT -5
Elijah Burns, a Notre Dame aircraft carrier has just graduated from ND and is enrolling in Siena’s MBA program. He has eligibility left, the question is when it starts. The tread on the Siena Board discusses it ad nauseum but reaches no conclusion. The issue is when the NCAA will rule on Siena’s application for a waiver, supported by Mike Brey, to allow him to play immediately. Immediately as in Saturday in the Hart. He is practicing with the team at this point in time. It appears that a decision may have been reached on the waiver but not as yet communicated to Siena. I am coming over Saturday on the Siena bus as we didn’t have enough interest to run our own bus. I will sneak away from my fellow travelers and find a seat where I can cheer loudly for the Cross. As some here are self proclaimed experts on NCAA rules, here is the link to the eligibility tread: sienahoop.proboards.com/thread/6185/update-on-elijah-burns?page=9 |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 20, 2018 7:44:18 GMT -5
After reading the Siena board, I will opine that he becomes eligible at the start of the semester, not before. He is not officially enrolled until classes start.
Otherwise, think of the abuse potential. What would happen if a transfer had started playing in November, but never enrolled in January? Would seem to be grounds for forfeits, for playing an ineligible player.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 20, 2018 7:45:44 GMT -5
  . Oh, that Brey. He wasn't content on screwing Holy Cross by foisting SK on us. He thinks he's got another bite of the apple with this scenario. Hope the kid gets to play against HC and we beat them by even more. FWIW, I liked Sean. He was just a lousy head coach.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 20, 2018 8:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Dec 20, 2018 9:04:33 GMT -5
I doubt considering that Dick Regan and Fr. McFarland are long gone Mike Brey gives a hoot about screwing Holy Cross. And if I were a Notre Dame supporter, I would not like it if10 years later he was wasting any of his valuable time figuring out ways to do so.
Also, consider this from this perspective: if Sean Kearney* were so near and dear to him wouldn't he have figured out a way in the ensuing decade to rehire him?
*Perhaps Sean likes Colorado very much- he's been there 6 years now
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 20, 2018 9:12:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. He has already played for Notre Dame THIS semester. I think he'll be luck to play for Siena second semester. |
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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2018 9:13:53 GMT -5
he'll be lucky to play in the fall semester next year
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Post by Tom on Dec 20, 2018 9:25:46 GMT -5
I doubt considering that Dick Regan and Fr. McFarland are long gone Mike Brey gives a hoot about screwing Holy Cross. And if I were a Notre Dame supporter, I would not like it if10 years later he was wasting any of his valuable time figuring out ways to do so. Also, consider this from this perspective: if Sean Kearney* were so near and dear to him wouldn't he have figured out a way in the ensuing decade to rehire him? *Perhaps Sean likes Colorado very much- he's been there 6 years now I think the $crewing being referenced is not Brey out to get HC because of the way they treated Coach Kearney. The reference is to Brey giving Coach Kearney a glowing recommendation when he should have known that Kearney was not capable of running a program |
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2018 10:04:14 GMT -5
That article is strange indeed. The article says he is eligible at the start of the next semester. When is that? Any ideas?
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Post by bison137 on Dec 20, 2018 10:12:47 GMT -5
he'll be lucky to play in the fall semester next year Why? Under NCAA rules, a graduate transfer is usually eligible. Unless he flunks his classes in the spring semester - and Siena is a lot easier than Notre Dame - then he should be eligible by fall. |
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Post by Ray on Dec 20, 2018 10:26:32 GMT -5
Usually, transfers who are eligible to play in the second semester usually start playing right after the first semester closes, correct?
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2018 10:29:28 GMT -5
I believe that is when they transfer during the first semester. Otherwise, I believe it is on the first day of class for the new semester...but I am not certain.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 20, 2018 11:12:36 GMT -5
Usually, transfers who are eligible to play in the second semester usually start playing right after the first semester closes, correct? Yes. But that normally applies to transfers who have already been in residence at their new school. As you know, normally an athlete must have completed a year in residence in his/her new school before being eligible - although the NCAA does give waivers. However before now, there has not been a case where an athlete was allowed to play for two different D1 programs in the same year - so it is unclear what the rules might be IF he is granted an NCAA clearance. However it would be a bit odd for him to be allowed to play before 2nd semester begins because, as others have pointed out, he really isn't even a Siena student yet. |
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Post by timholycross on Dec 20, 2018 12:17:20 GMT -5
I doubt considering that Dick Regan and Fr. McFarland are long gone Mike Brey gives a hoot about screwing Holy Cross. And if I were a Notre Dame supporter, I would not like it if10 years later he was wasting any of his valuable time figuring out ways to do so. Also, consider this from this perspective: if Sean Kearney* were so near and dear to him wouldn't he have figured out a way in the ensuing decade to rehire him? *Perhaps Sean likes Colorado very much- he's been there 6 years now I think the $crewing being referenced is not Brey out to get HC because of the way they treated Coach Kearney. The reference is to Brey giving Coach Kearney a glowing recommendation when he should have known that Kearney was not capable of running a program Yes, re-reading it you are clearly right about that. On the other hand, HC got absolutely pounded in football by Penn circa 2002 (about 10 years after Duffner and everyone else (and scholarships, of course) had left Worcester)....and the Penn coach made it clear that he was rubbing it in because of a game from 1991. So some people hold grudges, that's for sure. |
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Dec 20, 2018 13:20:00 GMT -5
I think the $crewing being referenced is not Brey out to get HC because of the way they treated Coach Kearney. The reference is to Brey giving Coach Kearney a glowing recommendation when he should have known that Kearney was not capable of running a program Yes, re-reading it you are clearly right about that. On the other hand, HC got absolutely pounded in football by Penn circa 2002 (about 10 years after Duffner and everyone else (and scholarships, of course) had left Worcester)....and the Penn coach made it clear that he was rubbing it in because of a game from 1991. So some people hold grudges, that's for sure. Irish Alzheimers: everything is forgotten except the grudges. |
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Post by bison137 on Dec 20, 2018 13:27:46 GMT -5
Yes, re-reading it you are clearly right about that. On the other hand, HC got absolutely pounded in football by Penn circa 2002 (about 10 years after Duffner and everyone else (and scholarships, of course) had left Worcester)....and the Penn coach made it clear that he was rubbing it in because of a game from 1991. So some people hold grudges, that's for sure. Irish Alzheimers: everything is forgotten except the grudges. In this case, the "Irishman" was Penn coach Al Bagnoli. His Penn teams reached their apex from 2001-03. |
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