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Post by latoworcester on Jan 11, 2019 18:37:54 GMT -5
Another one bites the dust. From similar sources I just received news that Noonan will join the crew in Bethlehem. Not sure on this fact but I also heard that he will he coaching the LB’s
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 11, 2019 22:04:30 GMT -5
Well, if this is true, it would appear that assistants not liking to work for TG is certainly not a unanimous opinion. Of course, we can all think that Lehigh is paying considerably more than HC, right? Lehigh +2 Holy Cross -2 latowoo, feel free to take a break now!   |
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 11, 2019 22:49:16 GMT -5
These moves smell of a salary gap for assistants between the two schools - can that be ?
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Post by hchoops on Jan 11, 2019 22:50:06 GMT -5
I am not sure those who say Gilmore still wants what is best for HC are accurate.
Does he have to take at least two former assistants from the school he still cares for ?
Isn’t there a rather large pool of assistants to choose from ?
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Post by crosspride on Jan 11, 2019 23:13:07 GMT -5
I am not sure those who say Gilmore still wants what is best for HC are accurate. Does he have to take at least two former assistants from the school he still cares for ? Isn’t there a rather large pool of assistants to choose from ? Sarcasm? |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 11, 2019 23:14:39 GMT -5
C'mon, hoops. The assistants available to him are very limited based on the many posts on Crossports that people don't like to work for him. He's got to take whoever he can that will put up with him. Very small circle of prospects.
These guys are either loyal to TG; they think their future prospects are better at LU; they prefer TG to BC; they want to get out of Worcester; or they will get a better compensation package at LU.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 11, 2019 23:41:57 GMT -5
I am not sure those who say Gilmore still wants what is best for HC are accurate. Does he have to take at least two former assistants from the school he still cares for ? Isn’t there a rather large pool of assistants to choose from ? You can’t be serious. |
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Post by hcpride on Jan 12, 2019 7:02:31 GMT -5
TG certainly has been criticized for running through more than his share of talented assistant coaches (particularly criticism of higher level assistant turnover - but also lower level ) during his 14-year stay (72W-81L) as HC head football coach.
DiMichele (who also played for TG) worked for less than one year for TG (as the Assistant Secondary Coach the year TG was fired mid season). When Noonan was in his 3rd year as the Defensive Line Coach, TG was fired. Both stayed on to coach with Chesney this year.
It is unknown what positions they will fill at Lehigh under TG.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2019 8:56:49 GMT -5
mm67, that was my thought as well. It will be interesting to see who gets added to the HC staff. That, to me, if far more important than any addition to TG's staff at Lehigh
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Post by Chu Chu on Jan 12, 2019 9:21:26 GMT -5
I think that with both DiMichelle and Noonan, they may have been selected in part for their recruiting expertise and existing contacts. Noonan was responsible for New Jersey (Southern), Pennsylvania (Eastern), while DiMichelle had Western PA.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 12, 2019 9:30:32 GMT -5
Is it possible that Coach Chesney wanted to put his own people into these positions? Maybe, he was not comfortable firing them (team morale) and they jumped at the first opportunity to leave and join Coach Gilmore. I believe that Chesney will be able to attract effective assistants. Serendipitious all around? LoveHC Dimichele and Noonan were two of our better recruiters and responsible for a chunk of our top recruits, and will be a big loss. (A quick look at recruiting areas indicates that the holdovers from TG’s staff were responsible for the vast majority of the top commits in the class so far.) It won’t necessarily be that easy to replace a former Captain at HC and Captain at Rutgers. I also believe in Chesney, but let’s hope his replacements for these guys are better than his Offensive Coordinator replacement, Mr. Spread Em & Shred Em. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 12, 2019 9:45:20 GMT -5
Is it possible that Coach Chesney wanted to put his own people into these positions? Maybe, he was not comfortable firing them (team morale) and they jumped at the first opportunity to leave and join Coach Gilmore. I believe that Chesney will be able to attract effective assistants. Serendipitious all around? LoveHC This definitely is not the case. When Chesney met with the team after he was hired, many of the players suggested Dimichele and Noonan be holdovers from the previous staff. I imagine both Dimichele and Noonan are receiving pay bumps at Lehigh. |
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2019 10:10:31 GMT -5
This definitely is not the case. When Chesney met with the team after he was hired, many of the players suggested Dimichele and Noonan be holdovers from the previous staff. I imagine both Dimichele and Noonan are receiving pay bumps at Lehigh. Sons, Actually what you wrote about the players was implied in my post. I expect that Coach Chesney with all his energy and optimism will attract good assistants and also he will continue to attract great players. Assistants are important for recruiting but the head coach is most important in attracting players. Coaches have a reputation among high schoolers and I suspect many are eager to play for Chesney. LoveHC I agree. That will need to be the case. HC was reclaiming spot among players from top NJ high schools. I hope that trend can continue. |
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Post by breezy on Jan 12, 2019 10:23:14 GMT -5
1. I believe it is true that both Noonan and DiMichele were highly regarded by the players on the HC football team. I believe Coach Chesney also made some type of remark about how DiMichele seemed to know everyone on the Holy Cross campus and was very popular. (Funny story -- At the Holy Cross football outing last June, I went up to Coach Chesney and introduced myself and we started chatting. Coach DiMichele (who had met me before and knew of my moniker on this board) came up and said to Coach Chesney, "Do you know who this is?" Coach Chesney was well aware of my postings about Holy Cross recruiting and we had a good laugh and he said he was glad to have finally met me.)
2. Both Noonan and DiMichele had ties to Coach Gilmore. DiMichele played for Coach Gilmore and then was hired as an assistant coach. When Noonan was hired several years ago, Coach Gilmore made a comment that he had been trying to get him on staff for some time. I cannot blame either of them for wanting to rejoin Coach Gilmore at Lehigh -- especially if it means a pay increase for them.
3. Coach Noonan in the past has done well in recruiting in Georgia for Holy Cross.
4. On the other hand, I believe it is not entirely accurate to say that Noonan and DiMichele were instrumental in assembling this year's recruiting class (to date). DiMichele had responsibility for southern Ohio, so he gets credit for Kreimer and Kiessling, and Noonan had responsibility for southern New Jersey, so he gets credit for Morris. All good recruits, to be sure. But, that's just 3 out of the 14 recruits we have signed.
5. Finally, it is the nature of the coaching profession that assistant coaches come and go. At our level, the pay is not great and no one can blame anyone for trying to get a higher paying job. I think very highly of Noonan and DiMichele, and I wish them all the best.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 12, 2019 10:33:19 GMT -5
Right on point, Breezy!
But my educated guess is that while there may well be a pay increase it is not significant and means moving and that there is at least some measure of respect for TG involved.
Noonan worked multiple years as TG assistant and Anthony, as we said, played for him.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 12, 2019 12:09:08 GMT -5
Anthony DiMichelle is from Pennsylvania--Western part I think--so perhaps this gets him closer to home.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2019 12:21:43 GMT -5
HC,s habit of starting with little or no offense may be why some question the OC. Of course, the adjustments made later worked.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 12, 2019 12:29:07 GMT -5
Not a surprise (certainly not nearly the level of Lehigh hiring an in-conference coach who was fired mid-season by HC) TG would look to former assistants (lower level and otherwise) to work for him again. One worked for him for less than one year and the other for less than three years and both worked for Chesney this year. No info if they were coming back again for Chesney in any case. Although both were undoubtedly very good (lower level) assistants, I'd be concerned only if they spent last year as successful OC/DC at HC.
As head coach of a program clearly on the upswing, Chesney will have no problem filling the slots.
Breezy is on target (IMHO) correcting the recruiting overstatements.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 12, 2019 13:03:54 GMT -5
Also, in terms of housing at least, living in the Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton area is a bump in pay vis-a-vis Greater Worcester; as long as your long term plan is not to move back here.
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Post by richh on Jan 12, 2019 13:39:11 GMT -5
We complain at LU that our assts are low paid. Just saying I have no idea what, if any differential exists. True that COL likely lower in the LV, particularly for housing. Way too much overthinking in this thread. Assts move. Coaches usually look to hire assts they know and are capable. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 12, 2019 13:49:09 GMT -5
We complain at LU that our assts are low paid. Just saying I have no idea what, if any differential exists. True that COL likely lower in the LV, particularly for housing. Way too much overthinking in this thread. Assts move. Coaches usually look to hire assts they know and are capable. Every school in the Pl (1) pays its assistants below the PL average; (2) has an admissions department that rejects student-athletes who go on to star at other PL schools; (3) has the worst travel schedule in the conference; (4) gets hosed by PL leadership at every turn.  |
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2019 13:55:44 GMT -5
You omitted the smiley. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 12, 2019 20:43:38 GMT -5
He doesn't need the smiley, RGS, because, as we all know, the Patriot League is the mirror opposite of Lake Wobegon. At the famous lake, everyone and everything is above average. In the PL, everything and everyone is below average. [wink and smiley for you, Rob] |
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2019 22:22:07 GMT -5
Well done! |
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Post by moose1970 on Jan 13, 2019 0:46:27 GMT -5
if "loyalty" is the issue, then where is the loyalty of the assistant coaches?
coach gilmore was abruptly fired mid-contract by the hc ad. he did not quit and cherry pick assistants to take with him.
coach gilmore's first loyalty is now to the lehigh football program. DUH!
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