|
Post by hc87 on Jan 13, 2019 23:36:48 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by HCFC45 on Jan 13, 2019 23:58:06 GMT -5
Sorry to see this! Dartmouth has always been a good opponent for us! And, yes I will also miss the Hanover trips as well as their coming to Worcester! Will never forget the Bob Blackburn coached teams that came to Worcester! IIRC it was senior (1966 -1967) year when we beat them in a rain soaked game on a filed goal! !
|
|
|
Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 14, 2019 1:07:46 GMT -5
These are some ridiculous OOC slates Buddy is putting together. Do Dartmouth alums really want to be playing Sacred Heart, Valparaiso, Marist, Jacksonville, and CCSU?
Their schedules really don’t get interesting until 2023.
|
|
|
Post by sader1970 on Jan 14, 2019 7:20:24 GMT -5
What are you talking about 2023?! According to the title of this thread, they don't play Holy Cross until at least 2025, so how could their schedule be "interesting" before then?!
|
|
|
Post by gks on Jan 14, 2019 7:27:29 GMT -5
Overall Ivy OCC schedules are pathetic. Wonder what the football alumni think? They just further isolate themselves in the world of college football.
|
|
|
Post by sader1970 on Jan 14, 2019 7:32:05 GMT -5
You made me curious, so I did look it up. Easier to put the years we didn't play them:
2015 1999, 1998 (2 year stretch of no games) 1995, 1994 (another 2 year stretch of no game) 1964 1951 1941,40,39,38,37
We played them very sporadically before WWII
|
|
|
Post by rgs318 on Jan 14, 2019 7:41:12 GMT -5
Sorry to see this! Dartmouth has always been a good opponent for us! And, yes I will also miss the Hanover trips as well as their coming to Worcester! Will never forget the Bob Blackburn coached teams that came to Worcester! IIRC it was senior (1966 -1967) year when we beat them in a rain soaked game on a filed goal! HC beat them 7-6 when Dartmouth wet for 2 and the win and the pass was knocked down. I was still drying things out weeks later!
PS: My then girlfriend sat through every play. That was when I knew she was "the one"
|
|
|
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 14, 2019 9:04:31 GMT -5
A great rivalry suspended--presumably due to Dartmouth--really disappointing
|
|
|
Post by CHC8485 on Jan 14, 2019 9:50:53 GMT -5
No inside information, but with HC taking on at least 1 FBS school per year and the Ivy’s only having 3 OCC dates each year, Holy Cross MAY have put Harvard ahead of Dartmouth in scheduling priority. That leaves HC with only 3 (some years 4) other OCC dates and Dartmouth with 2 dates.
It takes 2 to tango as my dad used to say and sometimes, it just doesn’t work out due to other priorities, so I’m not sure it’s clear anyone is refusing to schedule the other, it just is hard to make it fit.
|
|
|
Post by timholycross on Jan 14, 2019 9:53:08 GMT -5
To anyone who attended the game last year, on a decent day last year with a very good team, was their following a big improvement over past years or just about the same?
Understand the Jax and Valpo games, they wanted to play a game in the south and the midwest....Marist, CC and SH, not so much.
|
|
|
Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 14, 2019 9:57:03 GMT -5
Princeton & Penn would be much more interesting Ivy opponents than Dartmouth, IMHO.
Never really understood the Dartmouth & Colgate rivalries.
|
|
|
Post by timholycross on Jan 14, 2019 10:09:28 GMT -5
I like any road game vs HYPPD...HC fans seem to like to go to those places and I do too. I'm not particularly enamored with any of them coming to Worcester as they don't seem to bring much of a following with them. Neither does Brown and hope to have nothing to do with Columbia or Cornell evah. Rather play someone who'll come to Fitton, quite frankly.
|
|
|
Post by nhteamer on Jan 14, 2019 10:50:19 GMT -5
I agree 100% ihoop! they play Sacred Heart, Valparaiso, Marist, Jacksonville, and CCSU and we play like teams
"what the hell is going on here!"
|
|
|
Post by hcpride on Jan 14, 2019 12:42:51 GMT -5
With so many traditions/rivalries within the Ancient Eight, I don't think their small (3-game) OOC football schedules mean very much to the Ivies in terms of traditions/rivalries . This year's Ivy powerhouse (10-0 Princeton) played Butler, Monmouth, and Lehigh.
If any PL Ivy football matchup is a rivalry/tradition game, I guess Colgate-Cornell (tradition, geography, applicant overlap) would sort of qualify. But even that game means very little to Cornell fans.
|
|
|
Post by bigfan on Jan 14, 2019 12:51:49 GMT -5
What is going on with our schedules? At one time we listed schedules through 2022, now all we show is 2019 & 2020.
|
|
|
Post by rickii on Jan 14, 2019 13:37:55 GMT -5
Overall Ivy OCC schedules are pathetic. Wonder what the football alumni think? They just further isolate themselves in the world of college football. You honestly think they care ?
|
|
|
Post by hc87 on Jan 14, 2019 13:39:03 GMT -5
What is going on with our schedules? At one time we listed schedules through 2022, now all we show is 2019 & 2020. According to this site, we are scheduled through 2021. After that though, all that is listed is CCSU for 2022 and 2023. Be interested in what discussions NP had with future opponents beyond 2021. fbschedules.com/ncaa/holy-cross/
|
|
|
Post by inhocsigno on Jan 14, 2019 13:46:34 GMT -5
Now would be the time to schedule Villanova as a non-conference game.
|
|
|
Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 14, 2019 14:04:04 GMT -5
Would 'nova want to play HC? Dunno. As 8485 alludes to above, there's a lot more to scheduling OOC games than merely picking up the phone.
|
|
|
Post by jkh67 on Jan 14, 2019 14:39:04 GMT -5
The news is quite a disappointment. Who can forget rain soaked 1966 at Fitton? There were so many other games that many of us attended at Fitton and in Hanover, as well. I glanced at their future schedules and it appears that they have scheduled the traditionally stronger PL teams - Colgate, Lehigh and Fordham. Also they added non-PL Sacred Heart and Marist as their opponents from the Northeast. Outside of their IL foes, I guess the tradition and history of playing HC does not mean anything to them. Are most alums from both schools interested? I wonder if anyone other than some of us on this board really care one way or another? Sad. LoveHC I believe Dartmouth is one of the three schools we've played the most (the other two being BC and Colgate). I ran into a Dartmouth grad on a cruise up the Yangtze River (if you can believe it) way back in 2000. We talked at length about Dartmouth-HC football out there in the middle of rural China. I can confirm that he was quite interested in the series and knew more about it than I expected. That being said, I suspect that the interest level these days is not high in either community. Given the long series track record, that's a shame. But so it goes.
|
|
|
Post by nhteamer on Jan 14, 2019 15:16:37 GMT -5
"all that is listed is CCSU for 2022 and 2023"
HA............pathetic '
|
|
|
Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 14, 2019 15:23:44 GMT -5
Would 'nova want to play HC? Dunno. As 8485 alludes to above, there's a lot more to scheduling OOC games than merely picking up the phone. There is very little tradition with Villanova. I doubt that either school would see any great benefit to playing the other on a regular basis.TPTB will decide. LoveHC I doubt there is much mutual interest. From Villanovas perspective, the CAA is a conference which for them is a lot of travel. All at least 4 hours minus Towson and Delaware. So if they are going to schedule somebody from the PL/IVY group they tend to rotate through local opponents like Lehigh, Lafayette, Bucknell, Penn and Fordham. From our perspective, we play in a Pennsylvania-centric league. Probably little interest in adding another trip in this driving range unless it's an FBS guarantee game. And as it was pointed out, we have very little athletic history and tradition with Villanova. The perceived connection seems to lie in the fact that we have tons of overlap in incoming freshmen applications and the fact that we "could a-woulda-shoulda" been in the same basketball conference.
|
|
|
Post by hcgrad94 on Jan 14, 2019 15:27:56 GMT -5
"all that is listed is CCSU for 2022 and 2023" HA............pathetic ' Atta boy. Overlook all the good OOC upgrade games and zoom right in on these.
|
|
|
Post by hcpride on Jan 14, 2019 16:03:50 GMT -5
Would 'nova want to play HC? Dunno. As 8485 alludes to above, there's a lot more to scheduling OOC games than merely picking up the phone. There is very little tradition with Villanova. I doubt that either school would see any great benefit to playing the other on a regular basis.TPTB will decide. LoveHC I don't see us playing Villanova much in football or basketball. I like our CAA game w/UNH and between that game, an Ivy or two, and an FBS we're full. They tend to knock around the PA Patriot League football teams and we don't need (in terms of our W-L record) to join that hit parade at this point. Ditto for hoops. Can't imagine they'd have much appetite to schedule us either (although Jay Wright might draw a very nice crowd at our arena). Edit: If we were to add a second CAA game to our football schedule I'd want it to be URI. 2 New England CAAs, 2 Ivies, and 1 FBS plus our 6 PLs would be optimal (IMHO).
|
|
|
Post by timholycross on Jan 14, 2019 16:16:12 GMT -5
There is very little tradition with Villanova. I doubt that either school would see any great benefit to playing the other on a regular basis.TPTB will decide. LoveHC I don't see us playing Villanova much in football or basketball. I like our CAA game w/UNH and between that game, an Ivy or two, and an FBS we're full. They tend to knock around the PA Patriot League football teams and we don't need (in terms of our W-L record) to join that hit parade at this point. Ditto for hoops. Can't imagine they'd have much appetite to schedule us either (although Jay Wright might draw a very nice crowd at our arena). What HC needs is a Jay Wright at some other school. Jay is a Bucknell grad and graciously has played his alma mater on several occasions. Has even taken his team to Sojka.
|
|