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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 15, 2019 11:19:55 GMT -5
Fr. B sent an email naming the three. Here are three men on the Province list who have been associated with Holy Cross: Joseph Fox, S.J. Fox was at Holy Cross from 1971-1988. The reported abuse of a minor occurred in 1956-1957, and was reported in 2012. Fox died in 1988. Joseph McInnes, S.J. McInnes was assigned to Holy Cross from 1936-1938. The reported abuse occurred in the 1960’s through the 1980’s and was reported in the 2000’s. McInnes died in 1986. James Pratt, S.J. Pratt worked at Holy Cross from 1992-1995. The reported abuse of a minor occurred in 1983 and was reported in 2003. He has been permanently removed from ministry. The full list image.jesuits.org/NYKNENPROV/media/JesuitsNortheast_01_15_19.pdf
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 15, 2019 11:23:26 GMT -5
I pray for the victims and for all Jesuits - that they can endure what must be a most difficult time for them as well.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 15, 2019 11:34:31 GMT -5
Excerpted from Fr. B's communication
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Post by gks on Jan 15, 2019 12:28:33 GMT -5
Fr. B sent an email naming the three. Here are three men on the Province list who have been associated with Holy Cross: Joseph Fox, S.J. Fox was at Holy Cross from 1971-1988. The reported abuse of a minor occurred in 1956-1957, and was reported in 2012. Fox died in 1988. Joseph McInnes, S.J. McInnes was assigned to Holy Cross from 1936-1938. The reported abuse occurred in the 1960’s through the 1980’s and was reported in the 2000’s. McInnes died in 1986. James Pratt, S.J. Pratt worked at Holy Cross from 1992-1995. The reported abuse of a minor occurred in 1983 and was reported in 2003. He has been permanently removed from ministry. AND SHOULD BE IN PRISON.The full list image.jesuits.org/NYKNENPROV/media/JesuitsNortheast_01_15_19.pdf
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Post by Ray on Jan 15, 2019 13:14:40 GMT -5
After so many revelations over the past couple of decades, you can't ever really be surprised by them anymore.
I remember Father Pratt well, though, and I wouldn't have expected him on this list. Of course, it's not always the one you expect.
As noted above, I wish for peace for all of the victims.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 15, 2019 13:45:56 GMT -5
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Post by ts1970 on Jan 15, 2019 15:01:41 GMT -5
Fr. B sent an email naming the three. Here are three men on the Province list who have been associated with Holy Cross: Joseph Fox, S.J. Fox was at Holy Cross from 1971-1988. The reported abuse of a minor occurred in 1956-1957, and was reported in 2012. Fox died in 1988. Joseph McInnes, S.J. McInnes was assigned to Holy Cross from 1936-1938. The reported abuse occurred in the 1960’s through the 1980’s and was reported in the 2000’s. McInnes died in 1986. James Pratt, S.J. Pratt worked at Holy Cross from 1992-1995. The reported abuse of a minor occurred in 1983 and was reported in 2003. He has been permanently removed from ministry. AND SHOULD BE IN PRISON.The full list image.jesuits.org/NYKNENPROV/media/JesuitsNortheast_01_15_19.pdfYes, maybe he should be in prison, but if the state does not indict him, there’s no way he goes to jail.
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Post by Tom on Jan 15, 2019 16:24:50 GMT -5
Yes, maybe he should be in prison, but if the state does not indict him, there’s no way he goes to jail. Ignoring what is right and or just for a moment and focusing on the practical, first would be the question of statute of limitations on this crime, in whatever state it occurred back in 1983. Secondly, assuming there is no issue with the statute of limitations, I'm guessing that it would be very difficult to prove guilt in a 35 year old case. I don't see an indictment coming Although he has avoided jail, he still has to answer to a higher judge and nobody can avoid that judgement
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Post by alum on Jan 15, 2019 17:03:18 GMT -5
Yes, maybe he should be in prison, but if the state does not indict him, there’s no way he goes to jail. Ignoring what is right and or just for a moment and focusing on the practical, first would be the question of statute of limitations on this crime, in whatever state it occurred back in 1983. Secondly, assuming there is no issue with the statute of limitations, I'm guessing that it would be very difficult to prove guilt in a 35 year old case. I don't see an indictment coming Although he has avoided jail, he still has to answer to a higher judge and nobody can avoid that judgement To complicate it even more, it would appear that Pratt was assigned in Kingston Jamacia in 1983.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 15, 2019 17:16:20 GMT -5
One scholastic from my high school years is on the list
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 16, 2019 8:38:20 GMT -5
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Post by lou on Jan 16, 2019 8:51:23 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 16, 2019 10:01:29 GMT -5
Not sure why I received a letter about this from Fairfield University, where I am a parent of a graduate, and not Holy Cross where I am alum and have had much closer contact and given much greater financial support. Who, besides Phreek, received Buroughs' letter? Trying to figure out why I get some communications, like a letter from Fr. Campbell that I didn't need or want, and not get others that I do have an interest in. Are the folks in the athletic department handling overall communications now? Just one more reason to be "unhappy" with the Holy Cross administrators! Was up on campus a few days ago and passed by and exchanged a quick "meet & greet" with Fr. B. If I had known about this lack of communication, I would have used the opportunity to give him one more reason to snub me in the future. [Yeah, it's starting to feel "personal"]. FWIW, one of the Jesuits who works closely with the IVC, not Holy Cross, is on the list and has been banished. Knowing him, I would never have guessed.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 16, 2019 10:42:16 GMT -5
I got a letter from Fairfield (parent of a student) and from HC (an alum).
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 16, 2019 10:58:06 GMT -5
The email was sent from announcements@holycross.edu, and was addressed to:
"Dear Members of the Holy Cross Community,"
The email in its entirety seems focused on those working and studying on College Hill., and was not written for a more general distribution to parents, alums etc. Someone may have unintentionally added a sub-distribution list. As others received it, it cannot be that I was singled out as a Crusader whose first cousin, Robert Guiscard, many generations removed, captured Antioch on the way to Jerusalem during the First Crusade. . Full text
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 16, 2019 11:08:27 GMT -5
STOP! PLEASE STOP! We don't need your pedigree. Thanks! Another poster sent it to me and I will make the same comment that I made to him, alums are part of the Holy Cross "Community" in the salutation. In addition, many of us are very active with events on the hill; doing stuff for our classes; attending athletic events; and having interactions with various Jesuits both on and off Mt. St. James. If this went out to just a few people, this would be myopic. As Rob posted, I too am only a parent for Fairfield (and got it) but not only an HC alum but parent of an alum and son of an alum. Now, I will now flip and do a half-hearted defense of Holy Cross. Sometimes communications go out in "waves" and maybe my wave just hasn't hit shore yet. If so, I will apologize in advance. Maybe Fairfield has a larger/faster server?
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Post by Chu Chu on Jan 16, 2019 11:11:50 GMT -5
Not sure why I received a letter about this from Fairfield University, where I am a parent of a graduate, and not Holy Cross where I am alum and have had much closer contact and given much greater financial support. Who, besides Phreek, received Buroughs' letter? Trying to figure out why I get some communications, like a letter from Fr. Campbell that I didn't need or want, and not get others that I do have an interest in. Are the folks in the athletic department handling overall communications now? Just one more reason to be "unhappy" with the Holy Cross administrators! Was up on campus a few days ago and passed by and exchanged a quick "meet & greet" with Fr. B. If I had known about this lack of communication, I would have used the opportunity to give him one more reason to snub me in the future. [Yeah, it's starting to feel "personal"]. FWIW, one of the Jesuits who works closely with the IVC, not Holy Cross, is on the list and has been banished. Knowing him, I would never have guessed. I got it.
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Post by Chu Chu on Jan 16, 2019 11:13:07 GMT -5
STOP! PLEASE STOP! We don't need your pedigree. Thanks! Another poster sent it to me and I will make the same comment that I made to him, alums are part of the Holy Cross "Community" in the salutation. In addition, many of us are very active with events on the hill; doing stuff for our classes; attending athletic events; and having interactions with various Jesuits both on and off Mt. St. James. If this went out to just a few people, this would be myopic. As Rob posted, I too am only a parent for Fairfield (and got it) but not only an HC alum but parent of an alum and son of an alum. Now, I will now flip and do a half-hearted defense of Holy Cross. Sometimes communications go out in "waves" and maybe my wave just hasn't hit shore yet. If so, I will apologize in advance. Maybe Fairfield has a larger/faster server? Check your spam folder. Lots of things can go wrong with email.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 16, 2019 11:29:01 GMT -5
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Post by gks on Jan 16, 2019 11:29:56 GMT -5
Is anyone surprised that this was handled not in the best of ways? Anyone with any ties to HC should have been notified. Makes me cringe as a Catholic.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 16, 2019 11:43:37 GMT -5
No. It is not there and I get lots of emails from Holy Cross, virtually every day, without a problem.
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Post by matunuck on Jan 16, 2019 12:10:14 GMT -5
Not sure why I received a letter about this from Fairfield University, where I am a parent of a graduate, and not Holy Cross where I am alum and have had much closer contact and given much greater financial support. Who, besides Phreek, received Buroughs' letter? Trying to figure out why I get some communications, like a letter from Fr. Campbell that I didn't need or want, and not get others that I do have an interest in. Are the folks in the athletic department handling overall communications now? Just one more reason to be "unhappy" with the Holy Cross administrators! Was up on campus a few days ago and passed by and exchanged a quick "meet & greet" with Fr. B. If I had known about this lack of communication, I would have used the opportunity to give him one more reason to snub me in the future. [Yeah, it's starting to feel "personal"]. FWIW, one of the Jesuits who works closely with the IVC, not Holy Cross, is on the list and has been banished. Knowing him, I would never have guessed. I got it. So did I.
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Post by HC13 on Jan 16, 2019 12:52:16 GMT -5
As did I
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 16, 2019 12:55:35 GMT -5
No. It is not there and I get lots of emails from Holy Cross, virtually every day, without a problem. .... now if you were a member of the Cornerstone Society! Just sayin'...... I doubt that HC maintains a single master list of students, parents, alumni, etc. .... and this distribution was made using various lists. If you were not included on one of the lists being used,..... The email from Fr. Bo on the tax bill was from webmaster@holycross. That one would be directed at alumni. The August 24 email from Fr. B. on the predations of the professor of organ was also sent from announcements@holycross.edu Did you receive that one?
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Post by timholycross on Jan 16, 2019 13:57:32 GMT -5
I used to officiate BC High soccer games in the era when Jim Talbot was the coach. Well respected, pleasure to deal with, which you can't say about a lot of coaches. Utterly shocked when his name came out (and it's pretty clear from all the accounts he was guilty as hell).
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