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Post by sader1970 on Mar 2, 2019 13:53:27 GMT -5
I would be happy to debate that point with you but other than the unique and shocking 2016 tournament run, I'd be coming to a knife fight with you carrying a gun. [corrected]
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 2, 2019 13:54:14 GMT -5
We were going NOWHERE with FHCMB He was horrible You going to bump that thread about how great Carmody is and how lucky we are to have him? Milan was terrible. Carmody is somehow worse.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 2, 2019 13:54:46 GMT -5
The sad thing is, I doubt very much many of the administration, the students at HC today, 90% of alumni from the last 10 years, 99+% of the locals have any idea how bad this PL season has gone.
We play (and play poorly) in basically a vacuum. The only people who really care post here, the hearty few that go to many of the games, a few who watch from afar....the vast majority of these people are well into their 50s and above.
Absolute disastah of a D1 program right now.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 2, 2019 13:57:53 GMT -5
Actually not a complete vacuum. Every Red Sox and Bruins fan in New England with NESN has a front row seat to view our futility.
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Post by sader1970 on Mar 2, 2019 13:58:35 GMT -5
I certainly don't disagree with that assessment but we are similarly not going anywhere with the current coaching staff. I was encouraged to see some M2M and press today but it was too late.
Let's see if Carmody decides to take a page from the 2016 playbook. He used the little used 1-3-1 in the tournament to surprise everyone. Maybe he will use M2M in this year's playoff since it has been seen so little this year and catch everyone else by surprise. You know, 4 games in March.
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Post by nhteamer on Mar 2, 2019 13:58:58 GMT -5
We were going NOWHERE with FHCMB He was horrible You going to bump that thread about how great Carmody is and how lucky we are to have him? Milan was terrible. Carmody is somehow worse. Fair enough on Carmody I had great hopes both when he came and early this season. Yet, FHCMB was a terrible coach.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 2, 2019 14:00:31 GMT -5
We were going NOWHERE with FHCMB He was horrible And where exactly are we going now? Since Milan left, we’ve had 4 players kicked off the team/out of school, a total record of 57-72 (.442), a PL record of 28-44 (.389), and just finished up a last place finish before we lose our best player with no replacements in the pipeline going forward. To say we were better under Milan was not meant to say Milan was even average, but rather to illustrate just how poorly the program has been run since his departure.
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Post by cfrivals on Mar 2, 2019 14:02:32 GMT -5
FCMB was a much better recruiter and he had a couple winning seasons
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Post by sader1998 on Mar 2, 2019 14:02:52 GMT -5
Better to get blown out like HC did today ... or commit an egregious choke job like Army did today down the stretch vs. Bucknell?
Incredible that Bucknell has won 8 of the last 9 regular season championships in the PL.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 2, 2019 14:11:05 GMT -5
We were going NOWHERE with FHCMB He was horrible You going to bump that thread about how great Carmody is and how lucky we are to have him? Milan was terrible. Carmody is somehow worse. Milan coaching Milan's recruits; Carmody coaching Milan's recruits; Carmody coaching Carmody's recruits. I would put the order of effectiveness as 2, 1, 3; given Carmody won the PL tournament his first year. The only thing I can see worse than #3 is if Milan returned next year to coach what's coming back.
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Post by sader1970 on Mar 2, 2019 14:24:43 GMT -5
So, bringing this back to the actual game, as usual we had 4 players score in double figures:
Floyd & Green 15, Grandy 14, Butler 10.
Big difference (the usual suspects): AU 12 of 18 (66.7%) from 3, HC 4 of 15 (26.7%) from 3 - insert "we don't shoot it so well" here Rebounding: AU 9 offensive, 27 defensive for total 36, HC 2 offensive, 15 defensive for 17. Overall shooting: AU 33/56 (58.9%), HC 26/53 (49.1%) Turnovers: AU 17, HC 9
JF had 6 of our 7 blocks.
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Post by possum on Mar 2, 2019 15:04:56 GMT -5
The defense on this team is beyond bad, there are a number of players who qualify under RW's description of not being able to guard a chair. AU took just about anyone out there to the hole with little or no resistance. Shudder to think how it will look next year with no Floyd to bail them out.
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Post by thecrossisback on Mar 2, 2019 15:20:44 GMT -5
Just a brutal game to watch in person. Feel for Floyd he played well. Please Man to Man defense the rest of the way. Going to have to change the rotation to get fresh legs in the game in the playoffs. If the star players are not going to put the ball in basket take them out. Butler is struggling, Grandison is struggling, Faw struggling on defense. Plus HC needs a coaching change. I don't get it you put yourself in such a whole. I know American made everything, but you gave them so many open looks. Then you fight back at the end with man to man.
Good luck in the tournament. Fingers crossed
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 2, 2019 15:34:37 GMT -5
The defense on this team is beyond bad, there are a number of players who qualify under RW's description of not being able to guard a chair. AU took just about anyone out there to the hole with little or no resistance. Shudder to think how it will look next year with no Floyd to bail them out. This is a very true statement. Using RW’s recruiting philosophy that wouldn’t bring guys in if they couldn’t defend, aside from Floyd, Grandison and Green are probably the only guys who could have qualified. The next coach is going to have his hands full
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Post by efg72 on Mar 2, 2019 15:34:54 GMT -5
Today, other than Floyd and Green, the coaches and team appeared to have something other than basketball on their mind.
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Post by letsgohc on Mar 2, 2019 16:58:33 GMT -5
The way they play defense is like they never practice defense.
I know I am old, and everything hurts, but firm believer in DEFENSE wins Championships.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 2, 2019 18:21:10 GMT -5
Am I understanding the PLT process correctly that the seventh place team, BU will host the tenth place team, HC on Tuesday?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 2, 2019 18:21:57 GMT -5
Every picture tells a story, don't it . . .
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Post by crosspride on Mar 2, 2019 18:23:06 GMT -5
Today, other than Floyd and Green, the coaches and team appeared to have something other than basketball on their mind. Benzan didn’t play. How’d the team look overall? Was it addition by subtraction like you said it would be?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 2, 2019 18:29:59 GMT -5
Am I understanding the PLT process correctly that the seventh place team, BU will host the tenth place team, HC on Tuesday? Tom probably needs to weigh in here, but according to a poster on the Buck board, depends on the outcome of the Lehigh-Loyola game tonight. BU finishes seventh if Lehigh wins tonight, Lafayette finishes seventh if Loyola wins.
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Post by efg72 on Mar 2, 2019 19:23:58 GMT -5
Today, other than Floyd and Green, the coaches and team appeared to have something other than basketball on their mind. Benzan didn’t play. How’d the team look overall? Was it addition by subtraction like you said it would be? If you are committed to a style of play that substitutes by the clock dont adjust and are committed to certain players that aren’t able to play the system then yes it is addition by subtraction Floyd is a special talent but was never used to play to his strengths at either end of the floor which is horrible I give the other two seniors credit for their energy, understanding of the game and commitment to the program but i seriously doubt they are made for this system So if I look at no other changes in the program with the 2 Michigan guards coming in, who happen to be significantly better talents, I certainly stand by my comment but then again I defer to others who are vastly superior in their knowledge of the game and willingness to opine while we all have a different perspective, we all love the school and want nothing but the best so take a deep breath and let’s hope the current season can be somewhat salvaged
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Post by trimster on Mar 2, 2019 19:29:02 GMT -5
Every picture tells a story, don't it . . .
Looks like NAD and a few close friends. I assume this was taken 10-15 minutes before the tip but still.... I doubt the 1,000 plus attendance figure is valid.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 2, 2019 19:45:18 GMT -5
Am I understanding the PLT process correctly that the seventh place team, BU will host the tenth place team, HC on Tuesday? Tom probably needs to weigh in here, but according to a poster on the Buck board, depends on the outcome of the Lehigh-Loyola game tonight. BU finishes seventh if Lehigh wins tonight, Lafayette finishes seventh if Loyola wins. That at is correct - at least according to the PL's list of the various scenarios.
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Post by thecrossisback on Mar 2, 2019 19:47:45 GMT -5
Every picture tells a story, don't it . . .
Looks like NAD and a few close friends. I assume this was taken 10-15 minutes before the tip but still.... I doubt the 1,000 plus attendance figure is valid. Small crowd, not the plus 1,000 that it says. But in the small crowd's defense there was no where to park because of a conference.
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Post by thecrossisback on Mar 2, 2019 20:16:42 GMT -5
“We’ve struggled all year going out on guys and guarding the 3-point shooter,” Carmody said, “and they’re not a notoriously accurate 3-point shooting team (32 percent on the season), but we seem to make good 3-point shooting squads out of just about everyone we play.”
Frustrates me so much. Your the coach, fix it. Maybe if your players aren't getting out to the three point line, do something different.
You recruited these players, coach to their strengths!
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