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Post by hc87 on Mar 4, 2019 14:11:26 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Mar 4, 2019 14:23:29 GMT -5
Dan Englestad
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 4, 2019 16:45:20 GMT -5
Dan is now the head coach at Mt. St. Mary’s.
He replaced Jamion Christian, who is now at Siena.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 4, 2019 21:17:51 GMT -5
HC is well distanced from, but not immune to this trend. Right now HC is participating in the campus amenities arms race with other highly rated private colleges, but the worm could turn at some point.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 5, 2019 20:01:47 GMT -5
Worcester could lose half of its colleges and universities in the next 5 to 10 years.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 5, 2019 21:25:34 GMT -5
I hope that HC is in the half that remains when the smoke clears!
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Post by HC92 on Mar 5, 2019 22:37:59 GMT -5
Worcester could lose half of its colleges and universities in the next 5 to 10 years. At least they made their PILOT contributions before they closed. |
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 5, 2019 23:27:57 GMT -5
PILOT never floated my boat. One college is in a city with rabid political activists. It's competitor college is in a rural area where the locals are just glad to have them. The first college makes two million per year PILOT payments. The second college uses that money for scholarships to attract strong students and/or build it's endowment. Repeat each year for twenty years. Twenty years later which college is closer to going out of business?
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Post by cmo on Mar 6, 2019 6:06:51 GMT -5
Worcester could lose half of its colleges and universities in the next 5 to 10 years. good timing since the world is ending in 12 |
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Post by joe on Mar 6, 2019 8:38:41 GMT -5
Because there's not enough value. Over-priced private high schools and colleges, especially liberal arts and art-based schools, need to figure out how to provide a relevant education at a more economical price point and with a desirable ROI later in life. I don't blame students and families, who already have it hard enough financially, to look toward state and vocational schools, military, or other non-academic pathways after high school, rather than absorbing tremendous debt at poor interest rates. Seems like a normal check and balance here, a normal swinging of the pendulum.
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Post by rf1 on Mar 6, 2019 11:34:45 GMT -5
Just in New England, these schools will have closed in the last two years: Mt Ida College Atlantic Union College Wheelock College
Green Mountain College Newbury College Southern Vermont College And Hampshire College, while not yet officially closing, is not going to admit new students next year and is looking for a merger. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 6, 2019 12:55:25 GMT -5
Because there's not enough value. Over-priced private high schools and colleges, especially liberal arts and art-based schools, need to figure out how to provide a relevant education at a more economical price point and with a desirable ROI later in life. I don't blame students and families, who already have it hard enough financially, to look toward state and vocational schools, military, or other non-academic pathways after high school, rather than absorbing tremendous debt at poor interest rates. Seems like a normal check and balance here, a normal swinging of the pendulum. Supply and demand. The number of high school graduates is inexorably declining in the Northeast, and a population that is more South and West, more millenial, and more Hispanic is likely to value STEM over LAC. Those parents aren't sending their sons and daughters to Mount Ida or Wheelock (if they've ever heard of them to begin with) when North Carolina State or Arizona State or Texas is one third the cost. |
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Post by gks on Mar 6, 2019 13:30:42 GMT -5
This is an important and interesting discussion. The reasons that many small colleges are struggling are many. Out of pocket cost is an obvious factor. One big contributor is the improvement of the state universities in New England. The days of ZooMass are gone. It's actually hard for instate students to get admission. The Worcester State, Westfield State, etc have also seen a major investment in facilities which draws in applications. Small, private schools with limited resources can't keep up.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 6, 2019 13:58:15 GMT -5
Actually, I would like to know the estimated ROI on an HC education and those of other high quality liberal arts colleges, eg Lafayette, Trinity, Williams Colby, Middlebury and the like and compare it to the ROI of other more comprehensive high quality schools, Villanova, Fordham,etc. and possibly some state universities. too. I have no idea. Does HC as a small, highly selective LAC have a low ROI? Would changing the nature of HC away from liberal arts to a more broad based comprehensive type of school(Communications, Business, Athletic Administration, etc.) improve HC's ROI and more importantly improve the quality of the school? LoveHC Bloomberg feels HC does well in ROI. "The College of the Holy Cross ranked 21st on Bloomberg Businessweek’s annual ranking of the 50 affordable colleges with the best return on investment (ROI)—up from 34th last year." |
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 6, 2019 14:01:45 GMT -5
Check out "College of the Holy Cross Return on Investment" on the site: college factual.com
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