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Wait List?
Mar 26, 2019 18:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 26, 2019 18:18:09 GMT -5
The son of a friend was wait listed this year. What is our recent track record of going to the wait list or not?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 26, 2019 19:25:42 GMT -5
The son of a friend was wait listed this year. What is our recent track record of going to the wait list or not? Last year, HC didn't go to the wait list because the class was oversubscribed; i.e., the 'yield' exceeded the target. HC is determined not to have a repeat of that for several reasons. The steps HC takes to avoid again exceeding the target (<800) could result in a resurrection of the wait list to fill out the class. |
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 27, 2019 11:12:33 GMT -5
I know a classmate on the BOT, and he said they do not want to get caught with a very large frosh class again in 2019. He said they're aiming at 750-770 size and if that is true, it might point to a lesser chance to get admitted from the wait list - but you never know, maybe the yield will be lower as more admitted students will go elsewhere. It's a hard call
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Post by alum on Mar 27, 2019 11:40:14 GMT -5
The son of a friend was wait listed this year. What is our recent track record of going to the wait list or not? Per the CDS they have admitted 0,0,14,8,0 off the waitlist going back five years. They generally put more than a 1000 kids on the waiting list so to some degree it would appear to be an effort to make people not feel bad. I think that this is especially true of alumni kids. |
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Post by timholycross on Mar 28, 2019 9:39:03 GMT -5
Getting recalled from the wait list pretty much negates any financial aid, doesn't it? It's all gone by then save for the federal loans. Maybe that's only for the first year, however.
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Post by alum on Mar 28, 2019 10:52:46 GMT -5
Getting recalled from the wait list pretty much negates any financial aid, doesn't it? It's all gone by then save for the federal loans. Maybe that's only for the first year, however. One of my kids was waitlisted at HC. I recall the letter stated that financial aid would permanently be unavailable to students admitted off of the waitlist. That was 11 years ago, it may have changed. |
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Wait List?
Mar 28, 2019 16:19:56 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 28, 2019 16:19:56 GMT -5
It appears that while HC was taking credit for being need blind they had one eye open a crack.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 29, 2019 16:02:31 GMT -5
Chris "Mad Dog" Russo ripped into HC for wait-listing his daughter....
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 29, 2019 16:22:28 GMT -5
Chris "Mad Dog" Russo ripped into HC for wait-listing his daughter.... Doggie is the best. A few gems in here, but my favorite was: “And it wasn’t a little white envelope, which you knew was bad news, it was a vanilla envelope. Now what are they gonna do stick a rejection letter in a big vanilla envelope?” I also fully agree with him when he says "I know more about Holy Cross than the administration does." |
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 29, 2019 16:24:24 GMT -5
That is a riot ! HC would have been in line for a sizeable contribution to the parents fund if his daughter got in and attended - too bad - Russo is loaded and has been a huge success on WFAN and now Sirius-XM
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Post by HC92 on Mar 29, 2019 18:20:25 GMT -5
Definitely seems like someone we could have let in. But it is very tough to get into HC and BC from Fairfield County without something to make you stand out from the pack. Has been since 1988 and it’s gotten harder since then.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 29, 2019 19:01:14 GMT -5
Clearly Chris did not pull any strings for his daughter. If you listen he really is a very nice guy (and quite familiar with HC and BC). He's also is onto something regarding geography - Wake Forest is an excellent school so that'll work out well for Doggie and his daughter.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 29, 2019 19:41:45 GMT -5
That is a riot ! HC would have been in line for a sizeable contribution to the parents fund if his daughter got in and attended - too bad - Russo is loaded and has been a huge success on WFAN and now Sirius-XM He also dropped a reference to Villanova, which I took as a hint she might have been admitted there. |
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Wait List?
Mar 30, 2019 12:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 30, 2019 12:32:46 GMT -5
Undoubtedly harder to get into HC from Fairfield County than most other counties in the country. Sounds like that may have been HC’s answer to the high school counselor. More honest than BC’s “we didn’t like the essay” response.
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Post by alum on Mar 30, 2019 13:07:54 GMT -5
His rant reminds me of those we hear from the former NYC real estate developer. He knows more than everyone else.🤨
I do do like his attitude about BC
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Post by hcpride on Mar 30, 2019 14:43:38 GMT -5
FWIW, if his daughter had her heart set on HC (no indication it was ), she would have been well advised to go ED.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 30, 2019 19:01:28 GMT -5
Saw a stat today that Duke only admitted 5.7% of its non-early decision applicants this year. Yikes.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 30, 2019 20:35:36 GMT -5
Saw a stat today that Duke only admitted 5.7% of its non-early decision applicants this year. Yikes. That's one large connection of nerds |
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Post by hcpride on Mar 31, 2019 5:40:03 GMT -5
Saw a stat today that Duke only admitted 5.7% of its non-early decision applicants this year. Yikes. I read they were 18% ED. 50% of the class is selected via ED at Duke. While that (18%) itself is a low number, it certainly points the way for applicant strategy. (Of course not all are in a po$ition to go that route.) ( Last year we were 77% (!) 345/445 for ED at HC, obviously RD is a very different number since our overall rate [combining ED and RD numbers] was 39.6) |
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Post by crossbball13 on Mar 31, 2019 10:46:16 GMT -5
Saw a stat today that Duke only admitted 5.7% of its non-early decision applicants this year. Yikes. I read they were 18% ED. 50% of the class is selected via ED at Duke. While that (18%) itself is a low number, it certainly points the way for applicant strategy. (Of course not all are in a po$ition to go that route.) ( Last year we were 77% (!) 345/445 for ED at HC, obviously RD is a very different number since our overall rate [combining ED and RD numbers] was 39.6) Recruited athletes (huge number of enrollees), legacies and high achieving students with a commitment to HC (generally) make up almost all of the early decision applicants. The “high” acceptance rate means next to nothing. But you knew that. |
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Post by hcpride on Apr 1, 2019 4:37:49 GMT -5
I read they were 18% ED. 50% of the class is selected via ED at Duke. While that (18%) itself is a low number, it certainly points the way for applicant strategy. (Of course not all are in a po$ition to go that route.) ( Last year we were 77% (!) 345/445 for ED at HC, obviously RD is a very different number since our overall rate [combining ED and RD numbers] was 39.6) Recruited athletes (huge number of enrollees), legacies and high achieving students with a commitment to HC (generally) make up almost all of the early decision applicants. The “high” acceptance rate means next to nothing. But you knew that. No. What I do know is that there is both a numerator and a denominator in the ED selection rate calculation. As an example Colgate (safely assuming a similar number of recruited athletes) accepted a similar number of ED students last year (374 for Colgate, 345 for HC). But Colgate's rate was a far lower 43.9% (v HC's 77%). The difference was the number of students seeking ED admission at Colgate (851 v HC's 445). (This is not to suggest PL Colgate and PL HC are the best comparators or that there is significant applicant overlap between the two schools.) |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 1, 2019 15:48:29 GMT -5
Russo mentioned the name of the men's basketball coach from ten years ago, rather than the current one. Tells us everything we need to know.
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Post by crossbball13 on Apr 4, 2019 9:44:38 GMT -5
Recruited athletes (huge number of enrollees), legacies and high achieving students with a commitment to HC (generally) make up almost all of the early decision applicants. The “high” acceptance rate means next to nothing. But you knew that. No. What I do know is that there is both a numerator and a denominator in the ED selection rate calculation. As an example Colgate (safely assuming a similar number of recruited athletes) accepted a similar number of ED students last year (374 for Colgate, 345 for HC). But Colgate's rate was a far lower 43.9% (v HC's 77%). The difference was the number of students seeking ED admission at Colgate (851 v HC's 445). (This is not to suggest PL Colgate and PL HC are the best comparators or that there is significant applicant overlap between the two schools.) Thank you for telling me how fractions work. The only point I think you’re making is that Hc has to do a better job garnering students whose first choice is HC (which is somewhat difficult with the current cost of colleges in general coupled with the desire to push for more first generation college students). Hc student athletes: 720 Gate student athletes: 571 (Your recruited athlete assumption is flawed) Hc early acceptance: 77% vs 38% total Gate early acceptance: 44% vs 25% total Add 37 students athletes to the early acceptance numerator and denominator for gate early acceptance gives you 46% (apples to apples) The difference in early acceptance for hc is 102.6% higher. For Colgate it’s 84% higher. My only point: the perceived extreme of higher acceptance for ED is not that different from Colgate to Hc |
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 4, 2019 16:08:51 GMT -5
It appears we aren't beating Colgate in selectivity. But let's kick their butt on the gridiron this fall.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 5, 2019 3:52:50 GMT -5
No. What I do know is that there is both a numerator and a denominator in the ED selection rate calculation. As an example Colgate (safely assuming a similar number of recruited athletes) accepted a similar number of ED students last year (374 for Colgate, 345 for HC). But Colgate's rate was a far lower 43.9% (v HC's 77%). The difference was the number of students seeking ED admission at Colgate (851 v HC's 445). (This is not to suggest PL Colgate and PL HC are the best comparators or that there is significant applicant overlap between the two schools.) Hc early acceptance: 77% vs 38% total Gate early acceptance: 44% vs 25% total That sums it up pretty well. (We're classified [USN&WR] as 'more selective' while they have the higher classification of 'most selective' and your stats support that.) I do agree with longsuffering that we'll be better on the gridiron next year |
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