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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 14, 2019 13:04:40 GMT -5
With Tiger Woods expected to prevail in the Masters, the hype and hysteria will be out of control
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Post by hchoops on Apr 14, 2019 13:07:07 GMT -5
I hope he loses We have lost the feeling of shame
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Post by HC92 on Apr 14, 2019 13:53:52 GMT -5
I really have no idea why people like him. There are lots of people on social media talking about crying when he won. Seriously?
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Post by hchoops on Apr 14, 2019 14:03:09 GMT -5
I am glad I am not alone. The adoration is sickening.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 14, 2019 15:15:44 GMT -5
Agree 100%--it is a manifestation of America's ongoing fascination with celebrity. Tiger Woods is a celebrity in a way that Thomas, Mickelson, or Johnson would not be if they won the next 5 majors in a row. Jack Nicklaus could, at age 75 or 80, win the US Open this year and it would not generate the reaction that we see now to Tiger's victory.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 14, 2019 15:29:11 GMT -5
Sadly, agree
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 14, 2019 15:33:47 GMT -5
Agree 100%--it is a manifestation of America's ongoing fascination with celebrity. Tiger Woods is a celebrity in a way that Thomas, Mickelson, or Johnson would not be if they won the next 5 majors in a row. Jack Nicklaus could, at age 75 or 80, win the US Open this year and it would not generate the reaction that we see now to Tiger's victory.I assume you're being very hyperbolic, as while this obviously isn't happening, it without question would generate more of a reaction. Do you remember the attention Watson got losing in a playoff to Cink at the British when he was 59?
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Post by hcpride on Apr 14, 2019 17:13:48 GMT -5
Jack's win in '86 did get quite a reaction. Five or six years after his last major (and age 46 years or so) . Tiger (one of the greatest of all time) winning a major after an 11-year drought is sure to get quite a bit of publicity. And perhaps reignite the Jack-Tiger horse race. Expect the networks/internet/Nike to hype this one.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 14, 2019 17:26:37 GMT -5
As far as the reaction to Tiger winning, let's all remember there are two things Americans cant get enough of in sports:
1) THE UNDERDOG 2) THE COME BACK STORY
Tiger certainly embodies the second. It's been ELEVEN YEARS since he won a major, his career at absolute peak. Slam dunk -- greatest of all time. And then the affair comes to light in 2009 and his career couldn't have fallen off a cliff any faster. Followed by the decade-long turnaround that culminated this afternoon.
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Post by hcnation on Apr 14, 2019 18:15:46 GMT -5
Watch all the majors. Once Tiger putted out , turned TV off and will not watch ESPN ( rarely do anyways) or golf channel for a while .
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Post by alum on Apr 14, 2019 18:26:58 GMT -5
Ky, hchoops and 92---Serious question. What did you think of Tiger before the stories of his hideous behavior with women came to light? Is the objection to the excitement of this win because his personal life is so awful? Why is this a great story? See this Wikipedia page on world number 1's. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Number_One_male_golfersNone of the others (Rory, Speith, Day, Thomas, Johnson, Koepka) have lasted. Reporters and their editors root for a story and Tiger is it. Nycrusader is right. We love comebacks and this is, to use Jim Nantz's line from 22 years ago "one for the ages." We ought to be celebrating an exciting tournament with eight or nine guys in contention with 6 holes to go. You gotta have fun with this stuff. Oh, and I hope we can all agree that Patrick Reed not winning made it a great week.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 14, 2019 20:26:08 GMT -5
Ky, hchoops and 92---Serious question. What did you think of Tiger before the stories of his hideous behavior with women came to light? Is the objection to the excitement of this win because his personal life is so awful? Why is this a great story? See this Wikipedia page on world number 1's. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Number_One_male_golfersNone of the others (Rory, Speith, Day, Thomas, Johnson, Koepka) have lasted. Reporters and their editors root for a story and Tiger is it. Nycrusader is right. We love comebacks and this is, to use Jim Nantz's line from 22 years ago "one for the ages." We ought to be celebrating an exciting tournament with eight or nine guys in contention with 6 holes to go. You gotta have fun with this stuff. Oh, and I hope we can all agree that Patrick Reed not winning made it a great week. Yes, I think you nailed it. Compare it to the NBA the last 40 years. Magic (or Bird, or both) passed the torch to Jordan who passed it to Kobe and then to Lebron. No one's become the focal point of golf since Tiger got injured/self-destructed personally.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 14, 2019 20:51:51 GMT -5
1- didn’t Follow him much 2- definitely
golfers are not real athletes
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 15, 2019 8:25:43 GMT -5
Some people thought this was pretty cool and heartwarming.
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Post by HCFC45 on Apr 15, 2019 8:55:38 GMT -5
Ky, hchoops and 92---Serious question. What did you think of Tiger before the stories of his hideous behavior with women came to light? Is the objection to the excitement of this win because his personal life is so awful? Why is this a great story? See this Wikipedia page on world number 1's. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Number_One_male_golfersNone of the others (Rory, Speith, Day, Thomas, Johnson, Koepka) have lasted. Reporters and their editors root for a story and Tiger is it. Nycrusader is right. We love comebacks and this is, to use Jim Nantz's line from 22 years ago "one for the ages." We ought to be celebrating an exciting tournament with eight or nine guys in contention with 6 holes to go. You gotta have fun with this stuff. Oh, and I hope we can all agree that Patrick Reed not winning made it a great week. What a fantastic and exciting Masters Tournament, one for the ages!!! Guess my Deutsche Bank Tiger Woods autographed hat just got a lot more valuable! ! Guess it is safe to say that our Premier Handicapper (KY Crusader 75) was not the one who put down $85,000 on Tiger to win at 14 to 1 odds for a nice payout of $1,190,000! ! And yes, it is no secret that PR is one of the most disliked (I'm being kind) golfers on the tour! As I write this, 2 F16's have just completed their 4th pass over my house killing time before heading off to the 123rd running of the Boston Marathon!
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Post by lou on Apr 15, 2019 9:51:08 GMT -5
Reed has his own issues to deal with The Most Unwelcome Fan in Patrick Reed’s Gallery: His Father nyti.ms/2GcA8fF
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Post by HC92 on Apr 15, 2019 19:20:25 GMT -5
Some people thought this was pretty cool and heartwarming. Really doesn’t do anything for my heart to see a guy hugging his son who was a newborn when his father was banging Waffle House waitresses in parking lots. Call me old-fashioned.
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Post by CHC8485 on Apr 15, 2019 20:02:54 GMT -5
Yeah ... I’m more of an IHOP or Denny’s guy. I don’t like that I wanted Tiger to win yesterday, but I did. Everything about him off the course seems planned for image/marketing - like the whole family in red yesterday - for me, but on the course he’s electric and I can’t stop watching.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 15, 2019 20:17:56 GMT -5
Tiger is not alone when it comes to deplorable conduct - how many nba or nfl (or..) pro athletes have behaved in a similar way ? - being a golfer in a sport where players’ behavior is held to a higher standard worked against tiger. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan but I would rather not know what’s going on among those playing team sports
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Post by HC92 on Apr 15, 2019 20:30:00 GMT -5
Tiger is not alone when it comes to deplorable conduct - how many nba or nfl (or..) pro athletes have behaved in a similar way ? - being a golfer in a sport where players’ behavior is held to a higher standard worked against tiger. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan but I would rather not know what’s going on among those playing team sports Definitely fair and sad that some of these “heroes” are very bad humans. Of course, there are plenty of good ones too that don’t get as much coverage as they should. I just can’t take the Tiger story with the kids. Stick to the golf. Don’t try to make him a great Dad or human or tell me you’re moved to tears because he hugged his kid.
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Post by hc87 on Apr 15, 2019 21:19:05 GMT -5
How insufferable was Nantz yesterday? Dear God....
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Post by alum on Apr 16, 2019 7:14:52 GMT -5
Tiger is not alone when it comes to deplorable conduct - how many nba or nfl (or..) pro athletes have behaved in a similar way ? - being a golfer in a sport where players’ behavior is held to a higher standard worked against tiger. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan but I would rather not know what’s going on among those playing team sports Definitely fair and sad that some of these “heroes” are very bad humans. Of course, there are plenty of good ones too that don’t get as much coverage as they should. I just can’t take the Tiger story with the kids. Stick to the golf. Don’t try to make him a great Dad or human or tell me you’re moved to tears because he hugged his kid. I agree. I know CBS was looking to tie together Tiger's twenty two year professional career with the happy storyline. I think that it was appropriate to show him celebrating with his children and mother, however, if they were going to try to push the whole "son has become the father" storyline, they would have had to address the bad behavior that Tiger learned from Earl and ask if he is going to model better behavior for his kids.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Apr 16, 2019 10:01:03 GMT -5
lol for a group of guys who immediately come to the defense of anyone who is within inches of being "bashed," I'm kind of surprised at the moral pulpit on display in this thread, disparaging Tiger, saying that you can't stand him, and don't understand his appeal. Was Tiger a #@*&$~!ty person? Maybe... possibly... probably... but in a sport with no "teams" and participants that the whole country could, and does get behind, Tiger's universal appeal at his height was unparalleled, unquestioned, and unmatched since. That's why there was all the hype this weekend.
No other sport can drum up an athlete that can get universal appeal except for maybe boxing/MMA/pro wrestling at this point. Bird? Ask a Lakers fan. Magic? Ask a Celtics fan. Jordan? Ask a Knicks fan. Mike Trout? Largely in west coast TV purgatory despite being a "good" and "quiet" guy, and an all-time great. And all these heroes have had their share of personal issues too. Don't look for saints in pro sports.
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Post by alum on Apr 16, 2019 10:07:26 GMT -5
lol for a group of guys who immediately come to the defense of anyone who is within inches of being "bashed," I'm kind of surprised at the moral pulpit on display in this thread, disparaging Tiger, saying that you can't stand him, and don't understand his appeal. Was Tiger a #@*&$~!ty person? Maybe... possibly... probably... but in a sport with no "teams" and participants that the whole country could, and does get behind, Tiger's universal appeal at his height was unparalleled, unquestioned, and unmatched since. That's why there was all the hype this weekend. No other sport can drum up an athlete that can get universal appeal except for maybe boxing/MMA/pro wrestling at this point. Bird? Ask a Lakers fan. Magic? Ask a Celtics fan. Jordan? Ask a Knicks fan. Mike Trout? Largely in west coast TV purgatory despite being a "good" and "quiet" guy, and an all-time great. And all these heroes have had their share of personal issues too. Don't look for saints in pro sports. I am not bashing him and I think that the hysteria about his golf is warranted. I just don't like the family man thing. (Everyone can choose the athlete whose personal life is horrendous. For me, it is Kobe.)
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Post by Tom on Apr 16, 2019 10:16:19 GMT -5
The press reported everything when there was a police report about the attack from his wife. It became public record and forced the issue Perhaps I look at pro athletes with too much skepticism, but I interpret the lack of philandering stories a sign of discretion, not reform. As John Daly's ex wife said ten years ago, why should anyone be surprised, they're all doing it.
Tiger might have been a stand up guy that said "no, thank you" to the first 1000 women that threw themselves at him. Once you give into temptation from number 1001, it just gets easier
From being number one, dropping to one thousand something a couple of years ago, and coming back to win a major after 11 years is a great sports story. But it is just a sports story. I separate athletes achievements in competition and their personal life. I enjoy the sports competitions, but I believe that the vast, vast majority of pro athletes' personal lives come up way short.
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