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Post by efg72 on May 14, 2019 17:09:20 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on May 14, 2019 23:36:30 GMT -5
I like the alternate slogans as well as the comment by Green Orange "Gordie Lockbaum ain't walking through that door." Good work finding this for us.
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Post by hcpride on May 15, 2019 6:12:16 GMT -5
On target and knowledgeable analysis of HC's upcoming season (which I did not expect) as well as a pretty honest assessment of the upcoming game: "the Orange should have the starters out at halftime here, providing an extra bit of rest with the bye week coming up to start off October." I could live with that game scenario as it is so much better than what happened to us at BC last year and would require a few stops first and second quarter.
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Post by Chu Chu on May 15, 2019 11:10:51 GMT -5
Very good article. This paragraph sums up our situation:
"This season’s schedule should prove even more difficult for Holy Cross, with a tough September of Navy, New Hampshire, Yale and Syracuse that should make for some early growing pains. Five of the first six games are on the road, but if things aren’t completely derailed early, there’s some potential to rectify things in the heart of the Patriot League slate to end the year."
Go Cross!
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Post by moose1970 on Jun 2, 2019 10:42:17 GMT -5
Very good article. This paragraph sums up our situation: "This season’s schedule should prove even more difficult for Holy Cross, with a tough September of Navy, New Hampshire, Yale and Syracuse that should make for some early growing pains. Five of the first six games are on the road, but if things aren’t completely derailed early, there’s some potential to rectify things in the heart of the Patriot League slate to end the year." Go Cross! nothing wrong with being an underdog. hopefully, we can pulloff at least one W v Navy, UNH, Yale. Syracuse? Fahgettaboudit.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 2, 2019 11:00:26 GMT -5
Very good article. This paragraph sums up our situation: "This season’s schedule should prove even more difficult for Holy Cross, with a tough September of Navy, New Hampshire, Yale and Syracuse that should make for some early growing pains. Five of the first six games are on the road, but if things aren’t completely derailed early, there’s some potential to rectify things in the heart of the Patriot League slate to end the year." Go Cross! nothing wrong with being an underdog. hopefully, we can pulloff at least one W v Navy, UNH, Yale. Syracuse? Fahgettaboudit. Before any reports from training camps or any games being played, I've got us as 20 point underdogs versus Navy, 3 point dog vs UNH, and 6 point dog at Yale. Syracuse is a 37 point favorite. I'd give us a very strong chance to win one of the first three games
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 2, 2019 11:25:36 GMT -5
Those odds would change radically if we pull off an upset down in Annapolis. I am guessing we could beat Navy by 14 and still be huge underdogs to the Orangemen.
One game at a time.
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Post by hc87 on Jun 2, 2019 12:29:10 GMT -5
This may very well be the toughest 1st 4 games we have played since becoming 1-AA/FCS in 1982....pretty sure it is actually.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 2, 2019 12:49:43 GMT -5
Nothing even close 1966 you would have to go 5 games in Army Dartmouth (nationally ranked) Colgate BU Syracuse (Little, Csonka) we wound up 6-3-1 with a last minute win over BC
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 2, 2019 15:08:37 GMT -5
In 1957, the last three games were Syracuse, Penn State, and BC. HC won two of three, losing to PSU by four.
1958 was probably the toughest schedule: Pitt (0-7), Syracuse (14-13), Dartmouth (14-8), BU (16-8), Dayton (26-0), Colgate (20-0). @ PSU (0-32), Marquette (14-0), BC (8-26)
PSU played at Fitton in 1957.
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Post by moose1970 on Jun 2, 2019 15:36:10 GMT -5
In 1957, the last three games were Syracuse, Penn State, and BC. HC won two of three, losing to PSU by four. 1958 was probably the toughest schedule: Pitt (0-7), Syracuse (14-13), Dartmouth (14-8), BU (16-8), Dayton (26-0), Colgate (20-0). @ PSU (0-32), Marquette (14-0), BC (8-26) PSU played at Fitton in 1957. college football played in the 1950's was a whole different world than college football today. today's college football is simply big business/$$$$. even the big time programs in the '50's had true student athletes. that term is a bad joke in most college football programs today.
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Post by hc87 on Jun 2, 2019 15:53:10 GMT -5
1970 was actually a daunting 1st 4 games....particularly after the hepatitis season of 1969.
At Army. Still playing really big schools nearly weekly then. Temple. Ramping up their program then..soon to be very good. Dartmouth. Top 20 that year. Colgate. Fairly solid that year..Wheelwright coached, played both Navy and UVA that year.
I'd argue that was the last brutal 1st 4 before 2019.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 2, 2019 15:59:53 GMT -5
Even the head coach, Dr. Eddie Anderson was a practicing physician. Those were teams that triple decker dwelling, Spags loving Worcester Fans could get behind...and they did. Coach Chesney and winning will bring a chunk of fans back. Things are looking up. A few OOC losses doesn't preclude HC from winning the PL championship and if so, doing some damage in the post season. Nothing but praise for the architects of this schedule, and I assume they are NP and TG.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 2, 2019 16:04:16 GMT -5
1970 was actually a daunting 1st 4 games....particularly after the hepatitis season of 1969. At Army. Still playing really big schools nearly weekly then. Temple. Ramping up their program then..soon to be very good. Dartmouth. Top 20 that year. Colgate. Fairly solid that year..Wheelwright coached, played both Navy and UVA that year. I'd argue that was the last brutal 1st 4 before 2019. My previous post was in response to Moose's comments about college football in the 50's. Wheelwright was dealt a tough hand. He complained about the facilities and resources after he was let go.
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Post by trimster on Jun 2, 2019 16:16:44 GMT -5
In 1957, the last three games were Syracuse, Penn State, and BC. HC won two of three, losing to PSU by four. 1958 was probably the toughest schedule: Pitt (0-7), Syracuse (14-13), Dartmouth (14-8), BU (16-8), Dayton (26-0), Colgate (20-0). @ PSU (0-32), Marquette (14-0), BC (8-26) Under Wheelwright. PSU played at Fitton in 1957. 1973 was a tough, tough schedule. Team finished 5-6. BC, Army, Temple, Syracuse and Rutgers. Temple was probably the best team in the East that year. Syracuse was admittedly way down but they were still Syracuse. "Lesser games" vs strong teams from Dartmouth, UMass under Macpherson and Colgate. Blackman may have still been coaching Dartmouth. "Weak sisters" that year included UNH, Northeastern and to a lesser extent, UConn. Lost to BC at Fitton 42-21 but gained over 500 yards in offense, the most the Eagles allowed all season. Led on offense by Vaas, Sheridan and Buchanan.
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Post by trimster on Jun 2, 2019 16:22:30 GMT -5
Nothing even close 1966 you would have to go 5 games in Army Dartmouth (nationally ranked) Colgate BU Syracuse (Little, Csonka) we wound up 6-3-1 with a last minute win over BC Sat in the rain and watched Csonka shred the HC defense all day from their 20 to our 5 and then watched Little score all the TD's. Also remember walking thru Kimball after the game next to the Saltine Warrior. Pretty cool.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 2, 2019 16:56:51 GMT -5
Have I posted before that I hate Syracuse? Yep. The last time we played them was in '73 and was one of the closest games in a lopsided "rivalry." A 5-3 loss . . . . 2 lousy points. Largest margin of defeat that I can find against the Orange was a 48 point drubbing (48-0) in 1963, followed closely by a 47 point loss in 1968 (47-0). Twice we beat them in back-to-back seasons 14-13 in 1958 and 20-19 in 1957. Proud to note that less than a month after I was born, the Crusaders defeated Syracuse 33-7 in 1948 after having beaten them 26-0 in 1947 (our greatest margin of victory). The only other time we shut them out was our first win in 1920, 3-0. So, gentlemen, place your bets. Will we lose by less than 48 points? Can we avoid a shutout? I can tell you that if Ben Schwartzwalder was still the Syracuse coach, the line would likely be 55+ points. We didn't call him "roll 'em up, Benny" for nothing.
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Post by trimster on Jun 2, 2019 17:35:20 GMT -5
Have I posted before that I hate Syracuse? Yep. The last time we played them was in '73 and was one of the closest games in a lopsided "rivalry." A 5-3 loss . . . . 2 lousy points. Largest margin of defeat that I can find against the Orange was a 48 point drubbing (48-0) in 1963, followed closely by a 47 point loss in 1968 (47-0). Twice we beat them in back-to-back seasons 14-13 in 1958 and 20-19 in 1957. Proud to note that less than a month after I was born, the Crusaders defeated Syracuse 33-7 in 1948 after having beaten them 26-0 in 1947 (our greatest margin of victory). The only other time we shut them out was our first win in 1920, 3-0. So, gentlemen, place your bets. Will we lose by less than 48 points? Can we avoid a shutout? I can tell you that if Ben Schwartzwalder was still the Syracuse coach, the line would likely be 55+ points. We didn't call him "roll 'em up, Benny" for nothing. If memory serves me, HC was one of the few teams to beat Syracuse over a 3-4 year span in the late 1950's when the Orangeman were one of the best teams in all of college football. I believe they were beaten by Tennessee, H C twice and someone else over a span of 45 games.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 2, 2019 17:37:37 GMT -5
Those odds would change radically if we pull off an upset down in Annapolis. I am guessing we could beat Navy by 14 and still be huge underdogs to the Orangemen. One game at a time. If we beat Alabama by 14 Vegas would still have us as major dogs to the Orange.
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Post by HC16 on Jun 2, 2019 19:33:04 GMT -5
In 1957, the last three games were Syracuse, Penn State, and BC. HC won two of three, losing to PSU by four. 1958 was probably the toughest schedule: Pitt (0-7), Syracuse (14-13), Dartmouth (14-8), BU (16-8), Dayton (26-0), Colgate (20-0). @ PSU (0-32), Marquette (14-0), BC (8-26) PSU played at Fitton in 1957. college football played in the 1950's was a whole different world than college football today. today's college football is simply big business/$$$$. even the big time programs in the '50's had true student athletes. that term is a bad joke in most college football programs today.What do you mean?? You must have missed this tweet this morning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 19:44:47 GMT -5
college football played in the 1950's was a whole different world than college football today. today's college football is simply big business/$$$$. even the big time programs in the '50's had true student athletes. that term is a bad joke in most college football programs today.What do you mean?? You must have missed this tweet this morning. I've never heard anyone ever complain about "missing a key assignment" and it lowering their GPA. How many guys would choose a 3.5 GPA over being a First Team All American? The answer is ZERO. Outside of first employer, who really cares about your college GPA besides your parents? I respect kids that work hard, but HC's constant need to justify their importance through GPA has gotten a little ridiculous over the years. If we were a federal service academy or technical school, maybe I would think differently (it's liberal arts with no direct application outside of the pre-med program). Kids that major in "sociology" should be taken out of the cumulative, athletic GPA.
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Post by Ignutz on Jun 2, 2019 19:48:40 GMT -5
college football played in the 1950's was a whole different world than college football today. today's college football is simply big business/$$$$. even the big time programs in the '50's had true student athletes. that term is a bad joke in most college football programs today.What do you mean?? You must have missed this tweet this morning. The Longhorns topped 2.35?? Wow, let’s celebrate!!
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Post by moose1970 on Jun 3, 2019 0:50:57 GMT -5
What do you mean?? You must have missed this tweet this morning. The Longhorns topped 2.35?? Wow, let’s celebrate!!
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Post by moose1970 on Jun 3, 2019 1:24:47 GMT -5
"What do you mean?? You must have missed this tweet this morning." TRUE! and congratulations to U Texas football program on its 2.35 GPA. Glad to hear it.
But, the Institute for Diversity and Ethics and Sport shows in its report that the overall football Graduation Success Rate (GSR) is up to 79 percent, climbing from 77 percent in 2017. The study found that white football players had a 90 percent graduation rate, while black players were at 73 percent. Both those numbers are up from 2017, when white players had an 87 percent rate and black players were at 71 percent. So, 20+% of NCAA Division 1 student/athletes do not graduate. What % of NCAA Division 1 student/athletes have a career (i.e. qualify for a league pension) as professional athletes?
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Post by hcpride on Jun 3, 2019 6:45:59 GMT -5
As far as a Syracuse game prediction goes it'll be probably along the lines of BC last year wherein Syracuse will score on most of its early drives, open up a big lead, freely substitute 2nd and 3rd string, and we'll score a relatively meaningless touchdown or two. Coach Chesney v BC wisely limited our passes and kept the clock moving while getting in a good number of players so I would expect the same this year. (This is assuming that Syracuse's coach is thinking along the lines of Addazio.)
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