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Post by hchoops on May 15, 2019 18:25:05 GMT -5
The Stith brothers combined to average 52 points per game one season! I wonder if that’s a record for brothers? Maybe the VanArdsdale twins came close at Indiana the Currys might have done it if they played at the same School
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Post by bison137 on May 15, 2019 18:41:14 GMT -5
The Stith brothers combined to average 52 points per game one season! I wonder if that’s a record for brothers? Maybe the VanArdsdale twins came close at Indiana the Currys might have done it if they played at the same School In their best year, the Van Arsdale's averaged a bit under 45 ppg.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 15, 2019 19:54:09 GMT -5
Too bad Louie Maravich didn't go to LSU and pop in 6 points a game. That would be like Hank and Tommie Aaron combining for 768 career homers, or the totals of the Wagner or Mathewson (both from Bucknell) brothers
I have to think it's the Stith brothers as highest scoring sibling teammates
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Post by hchoops on May 15, 2019 20:12:12 GMT -5
the Stiths won back to back NY City Championships in ‘56 and ‘57 at St. Francis Prep. Tom was the MVP both years. Jim Schnurr of HC played there 20 years later for the same coach, Chick Keegan.
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Post by hchoops on May 15, 2019 20:23:35 GMT -5
The Hauser brothers transferring would have to pick a school where they could bomb their threes to compete with the Stiths.
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Post by hcgrad94 on May 15, 2019 20:43:36 GMT -5
This makes perfect sense since Holy Cross is playing at Canisius. I figured they would try to pair that trip up with another game in the area (Bona, Niagara, U-Buff, etc) HC70 nods in agreement with this scheduling couplet. Can a Cable Car Classic invite be far behind? Furman? Dunno?
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Post by res on May 15, 2019 20:53:53 GMT -5
Too bad Louie Maravich didn't go to LSU and pop in 6 points a game. That would be like Hank and Tommie Aaron combining for 768 career homers, or the totals of the Wagner or Mathewson (both from Bucknell) brothers I have to think it's the Stith brothers as highest scoring sibling teammates It doesn't surprise me, but I've never seen it stated before. The only site I could find that addresses the question is something called College Hoopedia:
"St. Bonaventure's Tom and Sam Stith combined to average 52 points per game, an NCAA single-season record for brothers on the same team. Tom Stith, runner-up in scoring nationally to Cincinnati's Oscar Robertson, improved from ranking 71st in the country the previous year (see accompanying chart)."
I met Tom Stith once, though I have no memory of our encounter. I was six. One of my older sisters was attending Bona at the time. She and a friend of hers hosted a party for Tom and the rest of the 1960-61 team at our family house. I am told that I was introduced before being shuffled off to bed. My father told me years later that Tom and Freddie Crawford were disappointed that there only beer was offered and not "the hard stuff". Bona had a good run from 1960 to 1970 finishing in the top 10 in the year-end AP poll four times; in the top 5 three of those years. They had two solid chances at a national title but were derailed by bad luck. The '60-'61 team was cruising until very late in the season when Tom Stith's and (to a lesser extent) Fred Crawford's performance declined. It was only after the season was over that it was discovered they both had contracted tuberculosis. And then in 1970, Villanova's Chris Ford rolled into the back of Bob Lanier's knee with about 10 minutes to go in a blowout St. Bona victory in the East Region Finals, ending Bob's college career. UCLA ultimately won the title again, but that was the year between Alcindor and Walton. Steve Patterson was the starting center. UCLA was still very talented (Wicks, Rowe, Bibby, et. al.) but if there was a year during that era to get them, that was it.
I've always been curious why Bona and HC haven't played more over the years. Bona used to play Providence annually in those years and Fairfield often. Not HC nor BC, however...
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Post by hchoops on May 15, 2019 21:29:24 GMT -5
Thanks, Res. Terrific story. Growing up in .Brooklyn and playing CYO in grammar school, the Stiths were legends. My high school, Brooklyn Prep was pretty good, but we had a tough time beating SFP even after the Stiths left. Sonny Dove was our nemesis in ‘62 and ‘63.
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Post by bison137 on May 15, 2019 23:10:57 GMT -5
That would be like Hank and Tommie Aaron combining for 768 career homers, or the totals of the Wagner or Mathewson (both from Bucknell) brothers The Mathewson's, btw, combined for 373 MLB wins - all by Christy. Henry pitched in a grand total of 11 games - ten when he was 19. Bucknell has no baseball stats that survived, so there is no record as to how either did in college, although both turned pro prior to graduation. One bit of trivia is that Christy was a Walter Camp All-American on the football field and was much better known for that sport in college.
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Post by longsuffering on May 15, 2019 23:39:21 GMT -5
Good to hear, since my daughter-in-law's parents from from Olean! Looks like a trip up may be in the offing. Bolt a snowplow to the front of the Camry and head up.
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Post by res on May 16, 2019 8:00:32 GMT -5
Bolt a snowplow to the front of the Camry and head up. Yes, by all means, bolt a snowplow on the front as a precaution, but don't confuse Olean with the Tug Hill Plateau or Buffalo's southern suburbs. Olean averages roughly 65" per year, not terribly different from Worcester. As for heading "up", yes, there will be an elevation change, but Olean sits almost due west of Worcester, and just a tad south. (Though I forget where rgs currently resides, NY? If so, "up" is appropriate, though I'd still use the vernacular "over".)
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Post by sader1970 on May 16, 2019 8:18:42 GMT -5
Wimps!!!!! Live in Syracuse for 9 winters. Average snowfall: 120" a year. 10 feet if it doesn't melt, folks! (fortunately, it usually doesn't stay more than 5' high at a time). Every other neighbor had a snowplow on the front of their pick-up truck - not to make money - just to get out of their driveways. The birthplace of the name of the second car the "winter rat" (usually rusted through due to age and the heavy salt on the roads and not worth enough to care if it died somewhere in a snowdrift). In the old days, when cars had antennas, many had plastic day glow-orange balls on top so that you could see them coming at an intersection that was piled high with snow obstructing vision. Snowplows were twice the size of those downstate NY and had a 20'-25' side plow to push the drifts off the front yards so they would have room to plow more road snow off the road. The only casualty was the occasional mailbox when the plow driver miscalculated and didn't lift the blade fast enough. However, they had snow clearing down to a science. Hancock airport was virtually never closed despite blizzards - only when the wind caused whiteouts and never because of the amount of snow. Same with schools and businesses - very unusual to have a closing due to snow unless whiteouts forecast and often it was just cause for a shelter-in-place until it passed. Ah, those were the days. [No, I don't miss them ]
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Post by rgs318 on May 16, 2019 8:34:35 GMT -5
When at our condo near Mt Snow in VT (now gone after 15 years), we learned how snow plowing is done...they are good at it. As for ice..they just stay in and wait for it to melt. I am in NJ, so it Olean indeed "up" from here. The St B's campus if very welcoming and there are reminders of their basketball tradition all around you. There is a great walking, biking (snowshoeing) rail though and around the campus hat you should check out if you get the chance.
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Post by rf1 on May 16, 2019 9:21:04 GMT -5
The Reilly Center on the St. Bonaventure campus can be a tough place for opponents. Seats 5,480 with everyone very close to the court. They averaged 4,274 this past season which is pretty good for a school with an enrollment of about 1,800 in a fairly sparsely populated area of the southern tier of NY.
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Post by rgs318 on May 16, 2019 10:23:36 GMT -5
The basketball court in the Reilly Center is named for the great Bob Lanier. For you youngsters, he was a 6'11" center who was a real presence in the paint. I believe he still holds the single game scoring record for the Bonnies (51 points).
PS: HC has a 3-2 edge in our series with the Bonnies (going back to 1926 - last game was in 1962).
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Post by Tom on May 16, 2019 11:04:29 GMT -5
The basketball court in the Reilly Center is named for the great Bob Lanier. For you youngsters, he was a 6'11" center who was a real presence in the paint. I believe he still holds the single game scoring record for the Bonnies (51 points). PS: HC has a 3-2 edge in our series with the Bonnies (going back to 1926 - last game was in 1962). Lanier was such a great player it was tiring for a typical airline co-pilot to drag him up and down the court He also was known for having really big feet. Sneakers are in the Hall of Fame
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Post by res on May 16, 2019 11:09:07 GMT -5
As is he, though his sneakers made it in long before he did, iirc.
Overall #1 pick in the 1970 NBA draft, going to the Detroit Pistons.
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Post by nhteamer on May 16, 2019 11:11:13 GMT -5
wither Geno?
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Post by lou on May 16, 2019 11:21:05 GMT -5
Here in Alaska schools close only when temps reach -40F, and kids wear headlamps waiting for the bus
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Post by hchoops on May 16, 2019 11:34:21 GMT -5
Is that in the summer ?
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Post by hchoops on May 16, 2019 11:35:37 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on May 16, 2019 14:41:34 GMT -5
UCLA played Jacksonville in the 1970 final and made them look terrible. St. Bona certainly would have given them a better run for their money had Lanier not gotten injured.
UCLA dodged a big bullet the next year; Long Beach State (coached by Jerry Tarkanian) was beating them pretty badly and they came back to win. The following two years they had Walton and went undefeated.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 16, 2019 15:24:28 GMT -5
Was UCLA loaded? Walton’s backup Swen Nater never started a college game and then was a first round draft choice in the NBA. that’s loaded
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Post by Non Alum Dave on May 16, 2019 16:18:49 GMT -5
The Reilly Center on the St. Bonaventure campus can be a tough place for opponents. Seats 5,480 with everyone very close to the court. They averaged 4,274 this past season which is pretty good for a school with an enrollment of about 1,800 in a fairly sparsely populated area of the southern tier of NY. By jove, the Reilly Center sure looks like a big gym, except you can't tell because of all those standing, engaged fans blocking the view of what I'm guessing are pull out sections of seats........
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Post by hc6774 on May 16, 2019 16:28:12 GMT -5
does that screen rotate?
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