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Post by hchoops on Jun 17, 2019 16:05:49 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 17, 2019 19:33:02 GMT -5
Perhaps medium rare. 93 PL women's basketball players were added to the all academic team. That's an average of 9.3 per team. HC had five added. |
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Post by hchoops on Jun 17, 2019 19:41:12 GMT -5
I intended to congratulate the 5 women. I presumed most would grasp this. |
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 17, 2019 19:54:29 GMT -5
Yes indeed, congratulations to the five players. It's hard for me to resist a quip. Another positive is there has been no mention of any defections by either recruits or current players on the WBB team due to the coaching change. Well done also to Brendan Sullivan and AM for navigating this transition smoothly and cooperatively. The ball is squarely in AM's court and the upcoming season looks bright.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 18, 2019 6:19:39 GMT -5
It was smoothly done, indeed. It was so sooth a transition that I barely remember the endless posts blasting the former head coach and the school. I hope the coming season is a most positive one and the start of a new positive tone for the program and posts about it.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 18, 2019 16:01:15 GMT -5
It was smoothly done, indeed. It was so sooth a transition that I barely remember the endless posts blasting the former head coach and the school. I hope the coming season is a most positive one and the start of a new positive tone for the program and posts about it. Of course all posts will be positive now. Reminds me of the Irish wake where everyone comforts the widow by saying what a saintly person her late husband was. Finally there's a break in the line and she calls her son over and asks him to check the casket to make sure it's his father in there.  I think the constructive criticism will probably continue just a wee bit. |
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 18, 2019 17:51:03 GMT -5
Constructive criticism has never been a problem for me. Our critics are a reason many of us improve our performance. That is a far cry from the personal attacks that sometimes (far less often than on other sites, to be sure) appear here. For a few posters, once they decide a coach is "unacceptable" there is no room in their world for improvement...only a succession of negative posts. I hope we see a break from that for a time at least.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 18, 2019 23:02:45 GMT -5
Constructive criticism has never been a problem for me. Our cities are the reason many of us improve our performance. That is a far cry from the personal attacks that sometimes (far less often than on other sites, to be sure) appear here. Fora few posters, once they decide a coach is "unacceptable" there is no room in their world for improvement...only a succession of negative posts. I hope we see a break from that for a time at least. Plenty of that sort of stuff left on the men's basketball threads. The four kids that possibly could in some way, shape or form; reconsider their decision to attend HC have morphed from "why can't Carmody recruit better players than this" to "look at the guys we might lose because Carmody quit at the wrong time". |
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 18, 2019 23:43:32 GMT -5
I think it is doubtful any men's players will leave due to the time of year and because they haven't had a chance to play for a new coach and determine that is not the coach for them.
It is a Godsend that we ended up with Avery due to a coaching change. Did she make her decision sooner than late June? And do any of the four men's prospects project to contribute as much as Freshman as Avery did this past season? I don't see how any of them could be projected to contribute more.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 19, 2019 6:07:06 GMT -5
A not so small clarification...Coach Carmody did not "quit." He retired. He is not going to be coaching anywhere else (as another FHC did to help out a friend). I again thank Coach Carmody for all he did for the Cross in stabilizing our hoop program. BTW, thanks too for a PLT Title, an NCAA win (after half a century) and the Hall of Fame Tip Off Title just this past season.  |
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 19, 2019 10:08:36 GMT -5
And if anyone doesn't think people have a right to retire when they need to, try getting old.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 19, 2019 11:13:58 GMT -5
this thread has strayed off course into men's bball for some reason - back to the topic, I'm not accusing any school of grade-inflation but the sheer numbers on this list are amazing, including the entire Lehigh team of 15 player all meeting the all-academic standard - impressive
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 19, 2019 15:39:43 GMT -5
this thread has strayed off course into men's bball for some reason - back to the topic, I'm not accusing any school of grade-inflation but the sheer numbers on this list are amazing, including the entire Lehigh team of 15 player all meeting the all-academic standard - impressive Their Basket Weaving Dept. in the School of Arts and Crafts is top notch.  |
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Post by hcpride on Jun 20, 2019 6:23:19 GMT -5
93 women's basketball players this year were named to the Patriot League’s Academic Honor Roll. While they are all undoubtedly very good students there is certainly a number that would diminish the accomplishment and 93 might be getting very close to that number.
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Post by Chu Chu on Jul 7, 2019 18:46:11 GMT -5
93 women's basketball players this year were named to the Patriot League’s Academic Honor Roll. While they are all undoubtedly very good students there is certainly a number that would diminish the accomplishment and 93 might be getting very close to that number. Why, hcpride? High academic achievement is not a zero sum game, where some must lose so that others may win. It is a credit to the league! |
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Post by hcpride on Jul 8, 2019 11:47:01 GMT -5
93 women's basketball players this year were named to the Patriot League’s Academic Honor Roll. While they are all undoubtedly very good students there is certainly a number that would diminish the accomplishment and 93 might be getting very close to that number. Why, hcpride? High academic achievement is not a zero sum game, where some must lose so that others may win. It is a credit to the league! LOL Chu. So there is no number for you that would diminish the accomplishment? Suppose all Patriot League Athletes were Academic Honor Roll Athletes, would that suggest to you an issue with the significance of the accomplishment? And perhaps a re-look at the criteria? How about 99%? (There are always arguments for and against tightening criteria for things like honor rolls, halls of fame, honor societies, etc. down here at the high school level due to the concerns I noted - I am sure the same discussions take place at the collegiate level. While this may be hard to believe, we (in the high school I work at) had an issue with grade inflation and had to adjust our honor roll criteria - actually created a 'highest honors' honor roll and retained the regular old honor roll - to address the issue and prevent hurt feelings. Everybody's a winner! ) |
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Post by Chu Chu on Jul 9, 2019 11:58:39 GMT -5
If we recruit the cream of the crop, who all meet the standards of mastery in their subject areas, why would you care if all receive recognition? No everything is a competition.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 9, 2019 16:36:09 GMT -5
If we recruit the cream of the crop, who all meet the standards of mastery in their subject areas, why would you care if all receive recognition? Not everything is a competition. Not concerned with zero-sum or competition; again, "While they are all undoubtedly very good students there is certainly a number that would diminish the accomplishment and 93 might be getting very close to that number." We'll agree to disagree on the possibility that if 100% of all Patriot League student athletes earned Patriot League Academic Honor Roll recognition than the accomplishment would be diminished. I think it would; you apparently do not. (One poster has observed that the PL women averaged 9.3 players per team to the Patriot League Women's Basketball Academic Honor Roll and Lehigh's team placed a whopping 15 out of 15...one could argue that means Lehigh is the one landing the crème de la crème. ) |
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Post by alum on Jul 10, 2019 6:46:52 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 10, 2019 11:04:29 GMT -5
Maybe PL players need the notation on their resume a little more than the IL players do? In a way, although it shouldn't be, receiving an academic accolade at an IL school is almost redundant.
Harvard grad attends job interview: "You graduated from Harvard? OK, you're hired."
Other grad attends job interview: "You have an impressive resume here. Top grades, many accolades, impressive and relevant internships, two year captain of your team. OK, take this five hour battery of tests and let's see what you can do."😝
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Post by gks on Jul 10, 2019 11:13:30 GMT -5
This is basically like high school honor roll...not Academic All-America.
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I think the constructive criticism will probably continue just a wee bit.
