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Post by Ray on Jun 20, 2019 9:32:43 GMT -5
OK, list updated. I think I got everyone mentioned on page 1 of the thread. If I missed anyone, let me know. Thanks for the contributions, starting to look pretty comprehensive now.
I did go ahead and remove Becker, Brown, and Toole based on the discussion here. I was under the impression that there was more of a gap between what those AmEast/NEC jobs pay vs what HC is likely paying. Clearly I was mistaken.
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Post by bison137 on Jun 20, 2019 9:58:44 GMT -5
I did go ahead and remove Becker, Brown, and Toole based on the discussion here. I was under the impression that there was more of a gap between what those AmEast/NEC jobs pay vs what HC is likely paying. Clearly I was mistaken. SOV listed Will Brown's estimated salary ($350K). Andy Toole last year got a base salary of $375K, plus a bonus of over $100K. I don't have any current info on Becker but he was making $220K in 2015. I imagine it's a lot more now - especially with him having turned down several higher-level job offers such as Duquesne.
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Post by Ray on Jun 20, 2019 10:08:57 GMT -5
I did go ahead and remove Becker, Brown, and Toole based on the discussion here. I was under the impression that there was more of a gap between what those AmEast/NEC jobs pay vs what HC is likely paying. Clearly I was mistaken. SOV listed Will Brown's estimated salary ($350K). Andy Toole last year got a base salary of $375K, plus a bonus of over $100K. I don't have any current info on Becker but he was making $220K in 2015. I imagine it's a lot more now - especially with him having turned down several higher-level job offers such as Duquesne.
Right, I was just characterizing what I was thinking when I wrote the OP. SoV's reference to Brown's salary was an eye-opener, and I did a search this AM and found a reference to a 300k base salary for Becker in 2018. And your comments on the Bob Morris arena situation were compelling too. So, thanks.
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Post by bison137 on Jun 20, 2019 10:43:26 GMT -5
SOV listed Will Brown's estimated salary ($350K). Andy Toole last year got a base salary of $375K, plus a bonus of over $100K. I don't have any current info on Becker but he was making $220K in 2015. I imagine it's a lot more now - especially with him having turned down several higher-level job offers such as Duquesne.
Right, I was just characterizing what I was thinking when I wrote the OP. SoV's reference to Brown's salary was an eye-opener, and I did a search this AM and found a reference to a 300k base salary for Becker in 2018. And your comments on the Bob Morris arena situation were compelling too. So, thanks.
For a bit of contrast, Bucknell has never paid a head coach more than $275,000.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 20, 2019 10:53:02 GMT -5
I did go ahead and remove Becker, Brown, and Toole based on the discussion here. I was under the impression that there was more of a gap between what those AmEast/NEC jobs pay vs what HC is likely paying. Clearly I was mistaken. I don't have any current info on Becker but he was making $220K in 2015. Base pay for Becker, as of 2018, was $309,000.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 20, 2019 11:46:57 GMT -5
Guys only NHTeamer likes Tom Herrion, So Florida asst Billy Herrion, UNH HC Actually hysterical; I laughed out loud. Billy Herrion WOULD be great. Nobody who didn't attend HC has more purple blood than he! Could be a Ralph Willard type end of career. I posted something like this in another thread, but seems more appropriate here. I actually think Herrion is a decent coach. I thought Gerry Friel was too. But it's a very tough sell, UNH is a horrible place to try and win in basketball and the record is by definition a poor one. It's one of those places where you have a 16-14 season and move on. Staying in Durham is fatal to one's chances of advancement.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 20, 2019 11:52:20 GMT -5
I don't have any current info on Becker but he was making $220K in 2015. Base pay for Becker, as of 2018, was $309,000. Unlike Lewisburg, Becker would do better in Worcester for 310,000. Burlington is more expensive than I would have guessed, especially in the areas of housing and healthcare.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jun 20, 2019 12:11:12 GMT -5
Base pay for Becker, as of 2018, was $309,000. Unlike Lewisburg, Becker would do better in Worcester for 310,000. Burlington is more expensive than I would have guessed, especially in the areas of housing and healthcare. Becker is not leaving Burlington for Worc. He's not nuts. He very well may be elsewhere next year, and if so, it's going to a LOT better league than the PL - so move on.
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Post by unhfan on Jun 20, 2019 12:22:01 GMT -5
Unlike Lewisburg, Becker would do better in Worcester for 310,000. Burlington is more expensive than I would have guessed, especially in the areas of housing and healthcare. Becker is not leaving Burlington for Worc. He's not nuts. He very well may be elsewhere next year, and if so, it's going to a LOT better league than the PL - so move on. Don’t forget the brand new arena they just broke ground on. Becker if he does leave it will be for a high major job.
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Post by bison137 on Jun 20, 2019 12:57:43 GMT -5
Guys only NHTeamer likes Tom Herrion, So Florida asst Billy Herrion, UNH HC Actually hysterical; I laughed out loud. Billy Herrion WOULD be great. Nobody who didn't attend HC has more purple blood than he! Could be a Ralph Willard type end of career. I posted something like this in another thread, but seems more appropriate here. I actually think Herrion is a decent coach. I thought Gerry Friel was too. But it's a very tough sell, UNH is a horrible place to try and win in basketball and the record is by definition a poor one. It's one of those places where you have a 16-14 season and move on. Herrion only wishes he could go 16-14. In 14 seasons at UNH - playing very weak schedules every year - he has had 11 losing seasons. Overall record is 172-251, which is an average record of 12-18. And they play in one of the nation's weakest leagues.
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Post by HC92 on Jun 20, 2019 13:42:41 GMT -5
I posted something like this in another thread, but seems more appropriate here. I actually think Herrion is a decent coach. I thought Gerry Friel was too. But it's a very tough sell, UNH is a horrible place to try and win in basketball and the record is by definition a poor one. It's one of those places where you have a 16-14 season and move on. Herrion only wishes he could go 16-14. In 14 seasons at UNH - playing very weak schedules every year - he has had 11 losing seasons. Overall record is 172-251, which is an average record of 12-18. And they play in one of the nation's weakest leagues. I believe Herrion is a better coach than that record would indicate but there's simply no way Blossom is hiring him. We need a jolt of energy into the program. Bain is still my guy.
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Post by Tom on Jun 20, 2019 13:55:33 GMT -5
Billy Herrion WOULD be great. Nobody who didn't attend HC has more purple blood than he! You should really meet one of our regular posters. A guy by the name of Non Alum Dave.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 20, 2019 14:53:22 GMT -5
I think Bain would be a very risky choice for ADMB. If he did not work out ADMB would be accused of the worst case of cronyism.
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Post by classof83 on Jun 20, 2019 16:28:30 GMT -5
I think Bain would be a very risky choice for ADMB. If he did not work out ADMB would be accused of the worst case of cronyism. I tend to agree with you. He doesn't even have a full year under his belt at Brandeis - he was hired in October.
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Post by CHC8485 on Jun 20, 2019 16:55:51 GMT -5
Risky - yes.
Cronyism - yeah
Worst Kind of Cronyism - Not a chance. Bain has a resume and qualifications. Sure it's tough to judge it based on one year at Brandeis, but he's been a DI Assistant since 2005 at UNH, Dartmouth, & Columbia. With a couple of years at D3 prior to that.
No idea if he's the right guy, but he has appropriate credentials to be a head coach in the PL.
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Post by Ray on Jun 20, 2019 16:59:43 GMT -5
ADs hire coaches they are familiar with/have worked with all the time. As 8485 notes, Bain has plausible qualifications.
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Post by possum on Jun 20, 2019 17:22:28 GMT -5
With his basketball background I assume AD Blossom has a philosophy regarding what attributes lead to a successful program. If Bain shares Blossom's views on what It takes to win, I'd have no problem hiring him notwithstanding any friendship they may have. If their views are not in sync I find it hard to believe he would be hired. As Ray notes AD's hire coaches whom they have worked with or know personally all the time.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jun 20, 2019 17:36:28 GMT -5
The previous AD also had a "basketball background", overseeing MBB at an P5 school, much like Blossom's "basketball background".
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Post by efg72 on Jun 20, 2019 17:41:29 GMT -5
Matt Mckillop would be a great hire if he would leave Davidson. He is learning from his dad who might be one of the very best teaching coaches in the game. When he was a player he hosted my son on his official visit and paid attention to every detail of the visit. I think he would be a great teacher and make sure recruiting had no gaps
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Post by possum on Jun 20, 2019 18:09:25 GMT -5
Did I miss something did Pine play D-1 basketball, what was his basketball philosophy except to hire the first glitzy name that came his way. I'll assume that having played major college basketball Blossom has some thoughts on what he thinks it takes to run a successful program.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jun 20, 2019 18:40:46 GMT -5
Did I miss something did Pine play D-1 basketball, what was his basketball philosophy except to hire the first glitzy name that came his way. I'll assume that having played major college basketball Blossom has some thoughts on what he thinks it takes to run a successful program. Pine didn’t know if basketballs were blown up or stuffed. Blossom did play at Northeastern, but playing the sport in college doesn’t automatically mean he would know how to pick a coach, pick a coach who would work at HC, etc. I am cautiously optimistic that Blossom’s strong background and demeanor that appears to be exponentially more humble and aware than his predecessor will lead to a much more successful search than the last one. Not to say a search that resulted in picking between Craig Robinson & Bill Carmody (two guys who would both likely still be out of coaching if HC didn’t hire them) is all that high of a bar to set, but I’m excited about the potential state of this program for the first time in a while.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jun 20, 2019 18:45:02 GMT -5
Matt Mckillop would be a great hire if he would leave Davidson. He is learning from his dad who might be one of the very best teaching coaches in the game. When he was a player he hosted my son on his official visit and paid attention to every detail of the visit. I think he would be a great teacher and make sure recruiting had no gaps The guy from Swathmore is another very interesting name if we wanted to grab someone off the McKillop tree.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jun 20, 2019 18:57:47 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 20, 2019 20:05:16 GMT -5
Great story--the loyalty to Northeastern is commendable.
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Post by possum on Jun 21, 2019 7:02:06 GMT -5
Bain a Herrion disciple I'm sure NHT would be on board.
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