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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 29, 2019 23:10:32 GMT -5
A friend of mine here in the Ville played for Coach Rowe at Worcester Academy circa mid 1960's and always speaks glowingly of him. They remain close to this day.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 10, 2019 11:12:08 GMT -5
One thing I didn't realize about UConn football is that they tore Memorial Stadium down. I think that eliminates the return to FBS. They would not draw well enough to play at the Rent at a lower level....At Umass, such a switch would be a lot easier.
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Post by gks on Jul 10, 2019 11:14:52 GMT -5
One thing I didn't realize about UConn football is that they tore Memorial Stadium down. I think that eliminates the return to FBS. They would not draw well enough to play at the Rent at a lower level....At Umass, such a switch would be a lot easier. Memorial Stadium was condemned quite a while ago. I believe there is now a basketball practice facility there.
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Post by rf1 on Jul 10, 2019 13:26:21 GMT -5
One thing I didn't realize about UConn football is that they tore Memorial Stadium down. I think that eliminates the return to FBS. They would not draw well enough to play at the Rent at a lower level....At Umass, such a switch would be a lot easier. Memorial Stadium was condemned quite a while ago. I believe there is now a basketball practice facility there.
Correct. Their men's and women's basketball practice facility is located on a part of the old Memorial Stadium footprint near the road next to Gampel.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 26, 2019 12:44:15 GMT -5
Expensive exit fee
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Post by Tom on Jul 26, 2019 13:46:46 GMT -5
Good. There should be a price to pay for abandoning your brethren. And I say this knowing HC did it to the MAAC
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Post by HC92 on Jul 26, 2019 19:37:51 GMT -5
Luckily, my state is flush with cash. Easy come, easy go.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 26, 2019 20:15:28 GMT -5
Good. There should be a price to pay for abandoning your brethren. And I say this knowing HC did it to the MAAC Did HC pay an exit fee to leave the MAAC and is there an exit fee for a school that leaves the PL, if anyone knows.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 26, 2019 20:50:44 GMT -5
Good. There should be a price to pay for abandoning your brethren. And I say this knowing HC did it to the MAAC Did HC pay an exit fee to leave the MAAC and is there an exit fee for a school that leaves the PL, if anyone knows. Current PL bylaw re: withdrawal fee: If the withdrawing member notifies the League of its intention to withdraw from membership not later than June 30 one year prior to the effective date of the resignation, and if all membership obligations and commitments are met through the resignation date, the withdrawing member shall be required to pay $500,000 to the League by June 30 of the resignation year as liquidated damages. If the withdrawing member notifies the League of its intention to withdraw after June 30 of the year prior to the effective date of its resignation, and if all membership obligations and commitments are met through the resignation date, the withdrawing member shall be required to pay $1,000,000 to the League by June 30 of the resignation year as liquidated damages.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2019 6:50:03 GMT -5
Thanks. Reasonable fee. The tail (sports) isn't wagging the dog (academics) in the PL.
UConn's exit fee is a necessity I guess to maintain the basketball franchises at the highest level, but it is a shame because they are basically moving from one part of the original Big East to another.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 27, 2019 7:28:01 GMT -5
A shame for whom ? No one forced them to join the AAC. They left the Big East, the smaller hoops version, for unrealistic football dreams which became a nightmare
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Post by bigfan on Jul 27, 2019 9:07:48 GMT -5
So, it would only cost HC $500,000 to leave the PL.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 27, 2019 9:23:19 GMT -5
There may well be "costs" other than simply the financial ones.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 27, 2019 9:26:47 GMT -5
Thanks. Reasonable fee. The tail (sports) isn't wagging the dog (academics) in the PL. UConn's exit fee is a necessity I guess to maintain the basketball franchises at the highest level, but it is a shame because they are basically moving from one part of the original Big East to another. I think this is technically true but the AAC is not really connected to the old Big East in a meaningful way (though they are technically the legal successor). I think South Florida and Cinci are the only other current members of the AAC who were full members of the old Big East at the time it imploded. And neither one of those really feels like a “real” Big East team to people my age and above. Temple was also an associate football member of the old Big East for a year before the implosion.
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Post by rf1 on Jul 27, 2019 10:03:34 GMT -5
A shame for whom ? No one forced them to join the AAC. They left the Big East, the smaller hoops version, for unrealistic football dreams which became a nightmare
The AAC is the legal entity that was the original Big East. UConn never left. It was the Catholic-7 that left the original Big East. They only kept the name because they later bought the rights to it and MSG from the AAC. The new Big East is an entirely new conference in a legal corporate sense and it had to go out and find a HQ and hire a commissioner. The original Big East just rebranded itself as the AAC after it sold the name rights. It kept the same commissioner Aresco and continued to occupy its Providence HQ (which it still does now until it moves when the lease is up in another year).
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Post by rf1 on Jul 27, 2019 10:07:20 GMT -5
Would have been just $10M if they had given 27 month notice before departing. Will also have to pay $3.5M to join the Big East. Will therefore cost $20.5M just to legally switch leagues.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 27, 2019 10:14:36 GMT -5
A shame for whom ? No one forced them to join the AAC. They left the Big East, the smaller hoops version, for unrealistic football dreams which became a nightmare
The AAC is the legal entity that was the original Big East. UConn never left. It was the Catholic-7 that left the original Big East. They only kept the name because they later bought the rights to it and MSG from the AAC. The new Big East is an entirely new conference in a legal corporate sense and it had to go out and find a HQ and hire a commissioner. The original Big East just rebranded itself as the AAC after it sold the name rights. It kept the same commissioner Aresco and continued to occupy its Providence HQ (which it still does now until it moves when the lease is up in another year).
So technically you are correct, but don’t you think there are now 20+ million reasons they wish they had stayed with the other 7 ?
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Post by hc87 on Jul 27, 2019 10:48:09 GMT -5
Rentschler (sp?) Field would be the 2nd biggest FCS stadium in Connecticut if they were to return to the FCS level.
Be an interesting next decade or so with regards to where all the non-Power 5 FBS and FCS football schools sort themselves out.
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 27, 2019 12:10:14 GMT -5
Ok, let’s look at UConn’s financial health after all of this settles - loss of $41 mil in 2018-19 - total withdrawal and entrance fees $20.5 mil - (without question) another huge loss in their final year in the AAC of approximately $40 mil (their football team might be worse in ‘19 !)
Round it all out to $100 mil over 2 years to right their ship
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Post by HC92 on Jul 27, 2019 12:21:15 GMT -5
Ok, let’s look at UConn’s financial health after all of this settles - loss of $41 mil in 2018-19 - total withdrawal and entrance fees $20.5 mil - (without question) another huge loss in their final year in the AAC of approximately $40 mil (their football team might be worse in ‘19 !) Round it all out to $100 mil over 2 years to right their ship For the sake of the taxpayers, let’s hope they downgrade football quickly. If the CAA would have them, fhat would be a great spot for them. Playing as an FBS independent In Storrs, CT is just silly.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 27, 2019 12:22:38 GMT -5
Ok, let’s look at UConn’s financial health after all of this settles - loss of $41 mil in 2018-19 - total withdrawal and entrance fees $20.5 mil - (without question) another huge loss in their final year in the AAC of approximately $40 mil (their football team might be worse in ‘19 !) Round it all out to $100 mil over 2 years to right their ship And what do you Connecticut taxpayers think about this ? (beat me, 92)
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Post by rf1 on Jul 27, 2019 12:40:04 GMT -5
The AAC is the legal entity that was the original Big East. UConn never left. It was the Catholic-7 that left the original Big East. They only kept the name because they later bought the rights to it and MSG from the AAC. The new Big East is an entirely new conference in a legal corporate sense and it had to go out and find a HQ and hire a commissioner. The original Big East just rebranded itself as the AAC after it sold the name rights. It kept the same commissioner Aresco and continued to occupy its Providence HQ (which it still does now until it moves when the lease is up in another year).
So technically you are correct, but don’t you think there are now 20+ million reasons they wish they had stayed with the other 7 ?
I don't know that they even had the option.
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Post by alum on Jul 27, 2019 12:44:30 GMT -5
Ok, let’s look at UConn’s financial health after all of this settles - loss of $41 mil in 2018-19 - total withdrawal and entrance fees $20.5 mil - (without question) another huge loss in their final year in the AAC of approximately $40 mil (their football team might be worse in ‘19 !) Round it all out to $100 mil over 2 years to right their ship And what do you Connecticut taxpayers think about this ? (beat me, 92) Not crazy about the cost but I will point out that UConn athletics loses substantially less annually on a per student basis than HC.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2019 16:01:20 GMT -5
And what do you Connecticut taxpayers think about this ? (beat me, 92) Not crazy about the cost but I will point out that UConn athletics loses substantially less annually on a per student basis than HC. Good point. A couple of thoughts: 1) I find it admirable that HC makes this strong commitment to D-1 sports as a small undergraduate college. 2) Recently that commitment hasn't included winning but has included the willingness to fund new facilities and to change coaches for performance reasons in FB and WBB and hire dynamic young rising coaches in MBB and FB. Rounding out the revenue sports (ones that charge admission) I have confidence in Coach Mac's effectiveness and results so far, the two top women's hockey coaches seem young but well prepared to help that team steadily improve, and in men's hockey I can't see making a change for performance reasons with that many years left on the contract, so let's root for a quick turnaround and a copy of what AIC did this year. And a bonus thought 3) UConn in the CAA makes sense as it does for UMass.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 27, 2019 18:43:56 GMT -5
Re: Holy Cross losing $$$ on athletics, how much did HC earn in profit on plays or other open-to-the-public events?
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