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Post by possum on Jul 6, 2019 10:44:26 GMT -5
Interesting Hoops doesn't know why we need to rehash past issues but he was the one who made the comment tying MB to one of the problem kids.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jul 6, 2019 12:20:04 GMT -5
Has anyone heard of any other schools now expressing interest in JG and CG? Are there any websites that specialize in monitoring transfer talk? Fairfield message board has a new Caleb Green thread, fwiw.
His former HS and AAU teammate at Fairfield is Tshiefu Ngalakulondi - transferring in from St. Bonaventure.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 7, 2019 9:17:20 GMT -5
Normally a player transferring up to D1 would have to sit a year. Thanks Bison. So it's move up or sideways: sit, but move down: play right away, unless it's a fifth year graduate (or undergraduate if the kid is a slow learner?) transfer who can play right away, and i before e except after c, right?☺️ CG to Fairfield would be a sideways move, so he would have to sit. As I understand it, he could not receive scollie aid during his 'sit' year, only need-based aid assuming he qualified. Same with JG if he were to move sideways. If he were to transfer to a California public university, the cost of sitting for a year might not be substantial.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 7, 2019 9:22:08 GMT -5
Thanks Bison. So it's move up or sideways: sit, but move down: play right away, unless it's a fifth year graduate (or undergraduate if the kid is a slow learner?) transfer who can play right away, and i before e except after c, right?☺️ CG to Fairfield would be a sideways move, so he would have to sit. As I understand it, he could not receive scollie aid during his 'sit' year, only need-based aid assuming he qualified. Same with JG if he were to move sideways. If he were to transfer to a California public university, the cost of sitting for a year might not be substantial. No. Both of them could receive a full scholarship during their "sit" year and almost surely would. Almost all transfers do. This assumes they are academically eligible and that they had permission from HC to transfer. I don't think those are issues in this case.
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Post by possum on Jul 7, 2019 9:31:54 GMT -5
Bison would the interested school need an open scholarship this year or can they use a scholarship for a future year. If open scholly is needed would certainly limit their options at this late date.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 7, 2019 9:38:42 GMT -5
Bison would the interested school need an open scholarship this year or can they use a scholarship for a future year. If open scholly is needed would certainly limit their options at this late date. Yes, the school must have an open scholarship - which definitely limits their potential landing spots. Using three years of scholarships to get two years of play also means that certain schools will have to think twice as to whether it is worth it. Of course at this point, there is a good chance that schools that still have available scholarships won't be using them all this year anyway.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 7, 2019 9:58:44 GMT -5
Since HC unfortunately may be one of those schools with unused scholarships this year, can a scholarship year be carried forward and used the next year, or is it "use it or lose it" which I suspect is the case as I don't recall reading any articles about a school "stockpiling scholarships" like Danny Aingle stockpiled draft picks for the Celtics?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 7, 2019 10:03:48 GMT -5
Perhaps it is as simple as a school is allowed X (13?) scholarship players whether they are on the roster or sitting out as transfers???
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 7, 2019 10:16:26 GMT -5
You could argue that CG transferring to Fairfield would be a step down in competition - the MAAC was about 30th of 32 D1 leagues last season and theOL hovered around 20th most of the season - the Stags need bodies going forward so I’m quite they would be ready to grab Caleb on a sit one/play two deal.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 7, 2019 10:33:40 GMT -5
CG to Fairfield would be a sideways move, so he would have to sit. As I understand it, he could not receive scollie aid during his 'sit' year, only need-based aid assuming he qualified. Same with JG if he were to move sideways. If he were to transfer to a California public university, the cost of sitting for a year might not be substantial. No. Both of them could receive a full scholarship during their "sit" year and almost surely would. Almost all transfers do. This assumes they are academically eligible and that they had permission from HC to transfer. I don't think those are issues in this case. On minor clarification is that ‘permission’ is no longer needed (player informs school and school places student in portal). Of course some individual conferences have some of their own rules for within conference transfers.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 7, 2019 11:10:34 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification, bison. According to 24/7, the Stags have already taken in two transfers: Eze from from Putnam CT UMaine Tshiefu Ngalakulondi from Proctor and St. Bonaventure. 247sports.com/college/fairfield/Season/2019-Basketball/Commits/So Fairfield would use three scollies, counting CG, who would sit for a year ?!?!
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 7, 2019 12:12:17 GMT -5
Perhaps it is as simple as a school is allowed X (13?) scholarship players whether they are on the roster or sitting out as transfers??? That would correct, at least as far as I know.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 7, 2019 12:29:15 GMT -5
You know correctly, NAD
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Post by DiMarz on Jul 7, 2019 12:34:12 GMT -5
All you social media hounds, Do JG and/or CG have Twitter or Instagram accounts that anybody follows? Have either player posted anything?
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Post by thecrossisback on Jul 7, 2019 16:37:41 GMT -5
All you social media hounds, Do JG and/or CG have Twitter or Instagram accounts that anybody follows? Have either player posted anything? Nothing on Instagram from either.
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Post by southernsader on Jul 7, 2019 16:44:34 GMT -5
Since CG and Fairfield are discussed in this thread as well, I'll also post here that, FWIW, Fairfield has no open scholarships per verbalcommits.com.
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Post by southernsader on Jul 7, 2019 16:47:52 GMT -5
Perhaps it is as simple as a school is allowed X (13?) scholarship players whether they are on the roster or sitting out as transfers??? That's right, and there is no per class limit, just the 13 total. That needs to be managed a lot better than where we are with 1 senior and 6 juniors.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jul 8, 2019 6:18:18 GMT -5
Thanks Bison. So it's move up or sideways: sit, but move down: play right away, unless it's a fifth year graduate (or undergraduate if the kid is a slow learner?) transfer who can play right away, and i before e except after c, right?☺️ CG to Fairfield would be a sideways move, so he would have to sit. As I understand it, he could not receive scollie aid during his 'sit' year, only need-based aid assuming he qualified. Same with JG if he were to move sideways. If he were to transfer to a California public university, the cost of sitting for a year might not be substantial. Transfers don't pay for their sit year.
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Post by Tom on Jul 8, 2019 7:39:06 GMT -5
Has anyone heard of any other schools now expressing interest in JG and CG? Are there any websites that specialize in monitoring transfer talk? Fairfield message board has a new Caleb Green thread, fwiw.
I just scanned the Green thread on the Fairfield board. No information from their end. Someone one that board read the rumor on this board and reported it
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Post by HC92 on Jul 8, 2019 10:39:39 GMT -5
I can understand Jacob wanting to play closer to home. Caleb to Fairfield doesn’t make much sense on its face but it’s his life if that’s what he chooses to do. Of course, all of the Caleb to Fairfield talk started with one rumor posted here by unhfan so who knows if there is anything to it. We’ll find out soon enough.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 9, 2019 11:29:11 GMT -5
As WooGray points out in the Caleb thread, the VC page has both the same “will be transferring” for both, but in the roster section below, it has “ERS”=expected red shirt and “TR”=transferred No time to feel only good about the new coach.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jul 9, 2019 11:36:47 GMT -5
As WooGray points out in the Caleb thread, the VC page has both the same “will be transferring” for both, but in the roster section below, it has “ERS”=expected red shirt and “TR”=transferred No time to feel only good about the new coach. No player (or players) from the current roster is even remotely close to being someone who we should have held the coaching search hostage for. If these guys want to stick around and participate in Nelson's D1 Boot Camp, hop on board. Otherwise, the ship will be taking off without them and the significant rebuilding effort (both with or without them) will be getting under way.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 9, 2019 11:49:20 GMT -5
Maybe Nelson would rather have two available scholarships at his disposal to recruit for the 2020 class than Green and Grandison.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 9, 2019 11:51:01 GMT -5
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Post by classof83 on Jul 9, 2019 12:15:43 GMT -5
If both Green and Grandsion transfer, we will have a team that returns 35% of its minutes this season from a team last season that primarily started 4 sophomores and had 2 others with more time than our 1 returning senior.
Wade and Lowder better be really good.
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