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Post by hchoops on Jul 19, 2019 13:11:09 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 19, 2019 13:22:50 GMT -5
Not very surprising to see HC at #2.
This puts into perspective just how disappointing and bad the last ten years have been.
Onward and upward with Nelson.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 19, 2019 13:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 19, 2019 14:16:02 GMT -5
The knock: 'It's tough to get kids into school' - that says a lot
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jul 19, 2019 14:21:19 GMT -5
Bucknell has a greater basketball history and tradition than HC? They certainly do recently...
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Post by HC92 on Jul 19, 2019 14:28:44 GMT -5
Some of the knocks are hilarious. And accurate.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 19, 2019 14:43:32 GMT -5
How can "geographical proximity to players" between Holy Cross and Boston University not be a tie? We are not losing any recruiting battle to BU because BU is closer to the player, not when the schools are 40 miles apart.
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Post by southernsader on Jul 19, 2019 14:50:05 GMT -5
How can "geographical proximity to players" between Holy Cross and Boston University not be a tie? We are not losing any recruiting battle to BU because BU is closer to the player, not when the schools are 40 miles apart. That probably just means there are, theoretically at least, many more local prospects in Boston than in Worcester.
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Post by Tom on Jul 19, 2019 15:24:25 GMT -5
The knock: 'It's tough to get kids into school' - that says a lot We say it around here a lot, but it's interesting that opposing coaches are also saying it's tough - presumably tougher than our PL:brethren for the coaches to bring it up
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Post by HCFC45 on Jul 19, 2019 15:51:34 GMT -5
The knock: “Location. You ever been to Hamilton?” – Patriot League head coach I'll bet you don't have to think hard and long to figure out who said this! !
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 19, 2019 16:18:59 GMT -5
All in all, Jeff Goodman was pretty accurate in his takes, without giving any of the schools the shiv. With the state of journalism today, if Stadium has the money to hire a basketball insider they probably had many choices. Goodman is a good choice.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 19, 2019 16:19:04 GMT -5
I don't understand the "buy games" rankings - the more you schedule, the lower your ranking. Flies in the face of "anyone, anytime, anywhere", doesn't it? Or am I missing something else?
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 19, 2019 16:36:45 GMT -5
I don't understand the "buy games" rankings - the more you schedule, the lower your ranking. Flies in the face of "anyone, anytime, anywhere", doesn't it? Or am I missing something else? The only thing I can think of is RW un-scheduling a game at Duke when he came on board. (hope I remember that correctly) He didn't think the team was ready for it, as I recall. Who can argue with his strategy for turning the program around? It has been the only one that worked in a few decades. Perhaps coaches think more like Ralph did than we fans do. I say playing a household name can increase excitement for a year or more before the actual game. Afterwards, not so much, but how do you quantify that extended pre-game enthusiasm? It's like the two days before the big Powerball drawing. I like a couple of games a year against power conference teams like we had against Michigan and Providence. Those two losses were positive in some ways although they didn't convert to success in the league.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 20, 2019 16:49:37 GMT -5
What's this thing they call 'game atmosphere: in the PL?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 20, 2019 18:51:53 GMT -5
I don't understand the "buy games" rankings - the more you schedule, the lower your ranking. Flies in the face of "anyone, anytime, anywhere", doesn't it? Or am I missing something else? In theory Dave, the fewer times you get paid to be a tomato can, the better your squad likely is.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 20, 2019 19:22:58 GMT -5
How can "geographical proximity to players" between Holy Cross and Boston University not be a tie? We are not losing any recruiting battle to BU because BU is closer to the player, not when the schools are 40 miles apart. BU is a bit closer to the important recruiting grounds in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 20, 2019 21:23:16 GMT -5
You meant fishing grounds, right? 😊
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 21, 2019 6:48:29 GMT -5
Aren't recruiters also, like the Apostles, "fishers of men?" It was a random thought for a Sunday.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 21, 2019 16:59:59 GMT -5
Navy gets a better rating for game atmosphere than HC. What??
Sure the Army-Navy game is electric regardless of records but the writer clearly not factoring that in as Army got ranked second-to-worst in this metric ahead of only Colgate.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 21, 2019 17:50:17 GMT -5
The Hart hasn’t really been a great atmosphere since March of 2009.
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Post by nhteamer on Jul 22, 2019 6:42:07 GMT -5
I don't understand the "buy games" rankings - the more you schedule, the lower your ranking. Flies in the face of "anyone, anytime, anywhere", doesn't it? Or am I missing something else? The only thing I can think of is RW un-scheduling a game at Duke when he came on board. (hope I remember that correctly) He didn't think the team was ready for it, as I recall. Who can argue with his strategy for turning the program around? It has been the only one that worked in a few decades. Perhaps coaches think more like Ralph did than we fans do. I say playing a household name can increase excitement for a year or more before the actual game. Afterwards, not so much, but how do you quantify that extended pre-game enthusiasm? It's like the two days before the big Powerball drawing. I like a couple of games a year against power conference teams like we had against Michigan and Providence. Those two losses were positive in some ways although they didn't convert to success in the league. We need PLAYERS. PLAYERS want to play these games. PLAY these games
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Post by Tom on Jul 22, 2019 8:11:35 GMT -5
The only thing I can think of is RW un-scheduling a game at Duke when he came on board. (hope I remember that correctly) He didn't think the team was ready for it, as I recall. Who can argue with his strategy for turning the program around? It has been the only one that worked in a few decades. Perhaps coaches think more like Ralph did than we fans do. I say playing a household name can increase excitement for a year or more before the actual game. Afterwards, not so much, but how do you quantify that extended pre-game enthusiasm? It's like the two days before the big Powerball drawing. I like a couple of games a year against power conference teams like we had against Michigan and Providence. Those two losses were positive in some ways although they didn't convert to success in the league. We need PLAYERS. PLAYERS want to play these games. PLAY these games There are very few players I have known well enough personally to have social media interaction with. Most of them at some point had a profile picture/avatar/whatever from some sort of buy game or name opponent. I imagine there are players from this year/last year that have a photo of them guarding or being guarded by a Michigan player. That tells me these guys like it to be known they went against the big boys
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jul 25, 2019 14:07:36 GMT -5
One stat that I found interesting was that HC ranked 2nd in this poll, but had the 7th best (out of 10) conference winning percentage over the past 4 years.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 25, 2019 14:48:36 GMT -5
One stat that I found interesting was that HC ranked 2nd in this poll, but had the 7th best (out of 10) conference winning percentage over the past 4 years. HC is really the only school in the PL with a history of a solid fanbase of alums and locals for basketball. Bucknell has a nice following but it's in a relatively small town in the middle of goddam nowhere. Much of their success/notoriety is also from this Century too...meaning living Bison alums from the 1960s, 70s, 80s weren't as rabid hoop fans as we were/are then and now. It's actually pretty sad that we aren't thought of as the premiere job in the PL given our history, location, facilities etc. Cue bison137 in 3....2.....
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 25, 2019 15:02:16 GMT -5
One stat that I found interesting was that HC ranked 2nd in this poll, but had the 7th best (out of 10) conference winning percentage over the past 4 years. HC is really the only school in the PL with a history of a solid fanbase of alums and locals for basketball. Bucknell has a nice following but it's in a relatively small town in the middle of goddam nowhere. Much of their success/notoriety is also from this Century too...meaning living Bison alums from the 1960s, 70s, 80s weren't as rabid hoop fans as we were/are then and now. It's actually pretty sad that we aren't thought of as the premiere job in the PL given our history, location, facilities etc. Cue bison137 in 3....2..... So I guess Lafayette would rank highest on football tradition based on the school's national championships generations ago?
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