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Post by hc6774 on Aug 18, 2019 5:51:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I don't know his family situation, but with Stevens losing his scholarship you'd think, with his height, he'd end up at a D-3 private school if his family could afford it or a D-3 state school and play some basketball. Once again given Stevens' height, I would think some scholarship might be out there - even if D-II wouldn't a question be NCAA eligibility following an admitted violation?
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Post by bison137 on Aug 18, 2019 13:52:49 GMT -5
Once again given Stevens' height, I would think some scholarship might be out there - even if D-II wouldn't a question be NCAA eligibility following an admitted violation? Do we know he was involved in an NCAA violation, as opposed to a legal one? I never saw any statement from HC or the NCAA, and I haven't seen that there has been any NCAA investigation or sanctions.
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Post by CHC8485 on Aug 18, 2019 14:07:42 GMT -5
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Post by possum on Aug 18, 2019 14:19:54 GMT -5
Does anyone other than his parents or friends really care whether Jack Stevens has continued his playing career.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Aug 18, 2019 14:23:17 GMT -5
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Post by bison137 on Aug 18, 2019 16:40:47 GMT -5
"Potential NCAA violations" are quite a bit different than "admitted NCAA violations." With no reported NCAA investigation or sanctions, it sounds to me like that part of it may have gone away entirely.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 18, 2019 17:01:40 GMT -5
That Powers can't even type his own name correctly in a quote on a website he built is sure to wow potential employers.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 18, 2019 17:21:15 GMT -5
Very strange. I did enjoy this part:
While he values the decision-making skills that he has honed as an athlete, he finds the ability to bring these skills to the real world more valuable.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 18, 2019 18:29:31 GMT -5
Powers also refers to his school as Holy Cross University.
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Post by CHC8485 on Aug 18, 2019 18:32:34 GMT -5
"Potential NCAA violations" are quite a bit different than "admitted NCAA violations." With no reported NCAA investigation or sanctions, it sounds to me like that part of it may have gone away entirely. C'mon bison, you're better than that. Of course they were announced as possible NCAA violations. If the Worcester County DAs office was ever involved - and other than someone on this board we have no information that they were- whose investigation is likely to move quicker to a resolution, the DA's or the the NCAA's? What we do know is 18 months after the article and the announcement of the suspensions for possible NCAA violations is that the Worcester County DA has not filed any charges against the 3 and none of the suspended have been anywhere near playing on an NCAA basketball court. I think that sends a pretty clear message about the nature (NCAA or legal) of the infractions.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 18, 2019 20:48:47 GMT -5
"Potential NCAA violations" are quite a bit different than "admitted NCAA violations." With no reported NCAA investigation or sanctions, it sounds to me like that part of it may have gone away entirely. C'mon bison, you're better than that. Of course they were announced as possible NCAA violations. If the Worcester County DAs office was ever involved - and other than someone on this board we have no information that they were- whose investigation is likely to move quicker to a resolution, the DA's or the the NCAA's? What we do know is 18 months after the article and the announcement of the suspensions for possible NCAA violations is that the Worcester County DA has not filed any charges against the 3 and none of the suspended have been anywhere near playing on an NCAA basketball court. I think that sends a pretty clear message about the nature (NCAA or legal) of the infractions. On violations that were this small, I think the NCAA would have definitely had something to say by now if there had been any real investigation or any major violations. I doubt we will ever hear anything more about it from them.
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Post by Tom on Aug 19, 2019 8:11:25 GMT -5
Once again given Stevens' height, I would think some scholarship might be out there - even if D-II wouldn't a question be NCAA eligibility following an admitted violation? Possibly. I suppose it would depend on the nature/seriousness of the violation. Also, as pointed out above, we don't know if any of the players involved admitted anything. I think it likely if the school was penalized someone here would have heard something about it. It is possible that the incident was investigated and the NCAA has declared them ineligible. If neither turns up anywhere this year that might be a reasonable hypothesis.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 19, 2019 9:26:11 GMT -5
wouldn't a question be NCAA eligibility following an admitted violation? Possibly. I suppose it would depend on the nature/seriousness of the violation. Also, as pointed out above, we don't know if any of the players involved admitted anything. I think it likely if the school was penalized someone here would have heard something about it. It is possible that the incident was investigated and the NCAA has declared them ineligible. If neither turns up anywhere this year that might be a reasonable hypothesis. If HC had been penalized in any way, it would be listed in the NCAA data base of infractions. As of today, there is no mention, meaning either no violation or a longer-than-average investigation.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 19, 2019 9:50:02 GMT -5
Does the NCAA publish a list of ineligible players due to infractions of its rules?
Regarding the non publication of an NCAA investigation/censure... see Fr K's book p433, regarding infractions in the football program i.e. practices in Aug 1968 & the recruiting activities of the HC Alum Club in Plymouth... the matter was resolved at a private meeting with NCAA officials in June 1969 in a manner that 'spared the reputation the football program'... Fr K also reports that... 'the matter had no visible effect on the debate [presumably at the college] about athletics'.
I was following the football program from afar but never hear any of the above until I read Fr K's book.
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Post by Tom on Aug 19, 2019 10:25:37 GMT -5
Possibly. I suppose it would depend on the nature/seriousness of the violation. Also, as pointed out above, we don't know if any of the players involved admitted anything. I think it likely if the school was penalized someone here would have heard something about it. It is possible that the incident was investigated and the NCAA has declared them ineligible. If neither turns up anywhere this year that might be a reasonable hypothesis. If HC had been penalized in any way, it would be listed in the NCAA data base of infractions. As of today, there is no mention, meaning either no violation or a longer-than-average investigation. Which still returns the question, is it possible that an individual athlete could be declared ineligible? If so, would it show up in this database - especially if the individual was not enrolled anywhere?
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