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Post by hchoops on Aug 20, 2019 17:54:35 GMT -5
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Post by Chu Chu on Aug 21, 2019 15:36:30 GMT -5
The methodology of this listing is curious and somewhat obscure. Consider this write up for the school that beat us (and everyone else):
Thomas Aquinas College, a pint-size liberal arts school located 65 miles northwest of Los Angeles, on the edge of the Los Padres National Forest, ranks first on our combined best-values list as well as our list of private liberal arts colleges. Thomas Aquinas, which tops our rankings for the first time, racks up points on the financial side of the equation with a sticker price that’s about half that of many schools on our best-values list. Like many institutions in the upper tier of our rankings, Thomas Aquinas meets 100% of students’ demonstrated financial need, awarding need-based aid to 70% of students. And although nearly 90% of students report taking loans, the average debt among those who borrow is less than $20,000 -- less than the national average at both private and public schools.
This Catholic college, which recently opened a second campus in Massachusetts, has no academic majors, minors or electives. Instead, the school combines the traditions and teachings of the Catholic Church with a “Great Books” curriculum focused on the original writings of philosophers, historians, mathematicians, poets, scientists and theologians.
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Post by moose1970 on Aug 21, 2019 17:58:04 GMT -5
The methodology of this listing is curious and somewhat obscure. Consider this write up for the school that beat us (and everyone else): Thomas Aquinas College, a pint-size liberal arts school located 65 miles northwest of Los Angeles, on the edge of the Los Padres National Forest, ranks first on our combined best-values list as well as our list of private liberal arts colleges. Thomas Aquinas, which tops our rankings for the first time, racks up points on the financial side of the equation with a sticker price that’s about half that of many schools on our best-values list. Like many institutions in the upper tier of our rankings, Thomas Aquinas meets 100% of students’ demonstrated financial need, awarding need-based aid to 70% of students. And although nearly 90% of students report taking loans, the average debt among those who borrow is less than $20,000 -- less than the national average at both private and public schools. This Catholic college, which recently opened a second campus in Massachusetts, has no academic majors, minors or electives. Instead, the school combines the traditions and teachings of the Catholic Church with a “Great Books” curriculum focused on the original writings of philosophers, historians, mathematicians, poets, scientists and theologians. " has no academic majors, minors or electives." so, students just main line church doctrine until its coming out their ears??? |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 21, 2019 19:41:29 GMT -5
It’s good that we identified the methodology so we can dismiss this source where HC was highly ranked
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Post by Chu Chu on Aug 22, 2019 11:41:07 GMT -5
It’s good that we identified the methodology so we can dismiss this source where HC was highly ranked Not dismissing so much as trying to understand how Thomas Aquinas College beat us out. |
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Post by hcpride on Aug 22, 2019 13:14:02 GMT -5
Any college list that puts us ahead of Stanford, Williams, Dartmouth, Notre Dame and Georgetown is pretty neat.
Apparently the champ, St Thomas Aquinas, is opening up a second campus in Northfield, Massachusetts.
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Post by alum on Aug 22, 2019 14:56:35 GMT -5
A quick look at its website tells us that Thomas Aquinas costs $34,000 including room and board and they say they meet all need and do it on a $20 million dollar endowment. If a young person is a conservative Catholic (Latin Mass offered daily, no drinking, no admission to the dorms of those of the opposite sex, 90% male faculty) to whom a Western only Great Books program is appealing, it would certainly be an affordable option. I suspect that it attracts some smart kids who are looking for a different college education than most. Good for them.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 28, 2019 10:33:14 GMT -5
This photo shows how well HC maintains it's historic buildings, which is appreciated. I took that drive up College St. and side streets that PP suggested to see the HC owned houses with identical placards for the street numbers. They are all well maintained also. Driving into campus (a couple of weeks ago - very peaceful setting on a summer afternoon) to see the new construction I couldn't see any solar panels on any buildings. What is HC doing to use renewable energy to save the planet? |
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Post by nhteamer on Aug 28, 2019 11:08:12 GMT -5
Driving Suburbans
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Post by Chu Chu on Aug 28, 2019 11:36:25 GMT -5
longsuffering asked, "What is HC doing to use renewable energy to save the planet?"
It is interesting to know that Holy Cross has been repeatedly recognized as one of the most environmentally responsible colleges in the country, by the Princeton Review and others. Princeton Review gave Holy Cross a “Green Rating” score of 91 out of 99, with scores being based on data from the company’s 2017-18 survey of hundreds of four-year colleges concerning the schools’ commitments to the environment and sustainability. Solar panels are not the only measure. Details here: news.holycross.edu/blog/2018/10/26/princeton-review-names-holy-cross-a-green-college/This issue is important to many prospective students. "Among nearly 11,000 teens and parents The Princeton Review surveyed earlier this year for its 2018 “College Hopes & Worries Survey,” 63 percent overall said having information about a college’s commitment to the environment would influence their decision to apply to or attend the school."
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 28, 2019 14:16:25 GMT -5
Are we still using plastic straws?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 28, 2019 17:37:35 GMT -5
Are we still using plastic straws? We can only hope those have been eradicated from Kimball and safely disposed of. |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 28, 2019 22:26:41 GMT -5
longsuffering asked, "What is HC doing to use renewable energy to save the planet?"
It is interesting to know that Holy Cross has been repeatedly recognized as one of the most environmentally responsible colleges in the country, by the Princeton Review and others. Princeton Review gave Holy Cross a “Green Rating” score of 91 out of 99, with scores being based on data from the company’s 2017-18 survey of hundreds of four-year colleges concerning the schools’ commitments to the environment and sustainability. Solar panels are not the only measure. Details here: news.holycross.edu/blog/2018/10/26/princeton-review-names-holy-cross-a-green-college/This issue is important to many prospective students. "Among nearly 11,000 teens and parents The Princeton Review surveyed earlier this year for its 2018 “College Hopes & Worries Survey,” 63 percent overall said having information about a college’s commitment to the environment would influence their decision to apply to or attend the school." Excellent link Chu Chu, I followed it and read all the HC current initiatives, which are numerous and impressive. HC pays no RE taxes, but they do pay full city water and sewer rates, which are high. Many of the initiatives reduce those fees, so they are an excellent investment to increase the green rating and save money as well. Speaking of well, I wonder if any wells have been dug on campus since 1843? The main power plant must still be using fossil fuels or any alternative would have been mentioned. I am sure the college studied the possibility of solar and wind turbines and ultimately ruled them out for valid reasons. I was on a board of Trustees 10-15 years ago and all the Trustees were salivating over installing either solar or a wind turbine to bolster their liberal street cred. After exhaustive research and crunching of numbers we couldn't justify either. I am sure HC continues to look at it six ways to Sunday. |
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