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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 25, 2019 4:10:17 GMT -5
From the home states (provinces) one can see the effect of full scollies for a sport (compared to say women's soccer)
Minn (2)
Illinois
CT (via Deerfield)
British Columbia
Manitoba
Ontario
CA (junior transfer from Colgate, doubt she transferred for less money)
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Post by HC13 on Jan 10, 2020 17:22:27 GMT -5
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jan 10, 2020 18:12:54 GMT -5
From the home states (provinces) one can see the effect of full scollies for a sport (compared to say women's soccer) Minn (2) Illinois CT (via Deerfield) British Columbia Manitoba Ontario CA (junior transfer from Colgate, doubt she transferred for less money) W soccer has scholarships...whats your point? |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 10, 2020 19:13:13 GMT -5
From the home states (provinces) one can see the effect of full scollies for a sport (compared to say women's soccer) Minn (2) Illinois CT (via Deerfield) British Columbia Manitoba Ontario CA (junior transfer from Colgate, doubt she transferred for less money) W soccer has scholarships...whats your point? My point, re: women's soccer, is that HC is cheap, spending $300,000, $400,000, even $500,000 less than other PL schools. Only AU spends less than HC. That shortfall corresponds to the rest of the league having five or six full scollie equivalents more than HC.. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 10, 2020 19:23:49 GMT -5
What do the states where the student-athletes are from have to do with anything?
W Soccer has players from all over the country as well, and at least one from Canada.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 10, 2020 20:46:10 GMT -5
What do the states where the student-athletes are from have to do with anything? W Soccer has players from all over the country as well, and at least one from Canada. I know they do, but most of the roster is comprised of players from MA and CT, 18 players to be specific. For Boston University, six players are from MA, none from CT. Nothing against players from either state, but it strikes me that HC is recruiting from these states mostly with partial scollie offers. If the choice is between a partial to HC and a full to BU, what do you take? UNC had no players from New England on its 2019 roster. Duke had two, one being a GK, who is the granddaughter of a HC and Celtics all-time great, and who re-shirted her freshman year because she was playing in the U-20 World Cup. So yes, there are quality players from New England; its that their numbers are relatively few compared to some other regions, e.g., CA, northern VA. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 10, 2020 21:11:19 GMT -5
Wut?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 11, 2020 10:27:24 GMT -5
What do the states where the student-athletes are from have to do with anything? W Soccer has players from all over the country as well, and at least one from Canada. I know they do, but most of the roster is comprised of players from MA and CT, 18 players to be specific. For Boston University, six players are from MA, none from CT. Nothing against players from either state, but it strikes me that HC is recruiting from these states mostly with partial scollie offers. If the choice is between a partial to HC and a full to BU, what do you take? UNC had no players from New England on its 2019 roster. Duke had two, one being a GK, who is the granddaughter of a HC and Celtics all-time great, and who re-shirted her freshman year because she was playing in the U-20 World Cup. So yes, there are quality players from New England; its that their numbers are relatively few compared to some other regions, e.g., CA, northern VA. BU has ten players from Canada! 🤷♂️ |
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Post by timholycross on Jan 11, 2020 17:49:11 GMT -5
The Duke keeper's father went to Duke as a football player, should be noted.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 12, 2020 8:43:51 GMT -5
The Duke keeper's father went to Duke as a football player, should be noted. Said by someone whose total post count makes him a member of Heinsohn's Court! |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 12, 2020 10:55:48 GMT -5
I know they do, but most of the roster is comprised of players from MA and CT, 18 players to be specific. For Boston University, six players are from MA, none from CT. Nothing against players from either state, but it strikes me that HC is recruiting from these states mostly with partial scollie offers. If the choice is between a partial to HC and a full to BU, what do you take? UNC had no players from New England on its 2019 roster. Duke had two, one being a GK, who is the granddaughter of a HC and Celtics all-time great, and who re-shirted her freshman year because she was playing in the U-20 World Cup. So yes, there are quality players from New England; its that their numbers are relatively few compared to some other regions, e.g., CA, northern VA. BU has ten players from Canada! 🤷♂️ IMO, there is a pronounced propensity -- when recruiting budgets and scollie $ allow -- on the part of coaches to recruit from where the talent pool is deepest. Field hockey at Stanford. Relatively few high schools beyond the East Coast play field hockey. Stanford's 2019 roster has nine players from other countries, eight from NJ and PA, and two from CA. Stanford's women's soccer roster has 14 players from CA, two from states east of the Mississippi River (neither of the two are from the Northeast). |
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 16, 2020 0:54:20 GMT -5
BU has ten players from Canada! 🤷♂️ IMO, there is a pronounced propensity -- when recruiting budgets and scollie $ allow -- on the part of coaches to recruit from where the talent pool is deepest. Field hockey at Stanford. Relatively few high schools beyond the East Coast play field hockey. Stanford's 2019 roster has nine players from other countries, eight from NJ and PA, and two from CA. Stanford's women's soccer roster has 14 players from CA, two from states east of the Mississippi River (neither of the two are from the Northeast). I don't believe in that at all...It is where the coach has connections. Harvard field hockey on one hand has three players from the Netherlands, two from England, and one from both New Zealand and South Africa. The head coach used to coach in the Netherlands. The BU connection to Canada probably goes back to his days when he was recruiting men's players in Canada with BU Hockey where he was an assistant. Once he got, Marie Philip-Poulin, every Canadian female player wants to play for the Terriers. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 16, 2020 0:56:03 GMT -5
IMO, there is a pronounced propensity -- when recruiting budgets and scollie $ allow -- on the part of coaches to recruit from where the talent pool is deepest. Field hockey at Stanford. Relatively few high schools beyond the East Coast play field hockey. Stanford's 2019 roster has nine players from other countries, eight from NJ and PA, and two from CA. Stanford's women's soccer roster has 14 players from CA, two from states east of the Mississippi River (neither of the two are from the Northeast). I don't believe in that at all...It is where the coach has connections. Harvard field hockey on one hand has three players from the Netherlands, two from England, and one from both New Zealand and South Africa. The head coach used to coach in the Netherlands. The BU connection to Canada probably goes back to his days when he was recruiting men's players in Canada with BU Hockey where he was an assistant. Once he got, Marie Philip-Poulin, every Canadian female player wants to play for the Terriers. I know that the Providence College men's assistant coach is running a College assessment camp in Sweden this spring and the Nichols head coach travels to Sweden every year to do something similar. Are they being paid to be there? Maybe but it helps with local connections when you are looking for a player down the road. |
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 16, 2020 5:36:56 GMT -5
That's a strong maybe.🙂
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 16, 2020 7:09:52 GMT -5
They wouldn't be traveling there if the talent wasn't there. Its no secret that some coaches often develop pipelines to certain areas and recruit many of their players from those areas. See St. Mary's California: www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/25/college-basketball-how-little-saint-marys-became-little-australia/what started for the men's team, has carried over to the women's team. The current St. Mary's women's roster has two players from Australia and one from New Zealand. (And only one player from east of the Rocky Mountains, and she is from Kansas.) St Mary's BTW, hangs an Australian national flag on their home court. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 16, 2020 19:53:17 GMT -5
They wouldn't be traveling there if the talent wasn't there. Its no secret that some coaches often develop pipelines to certain areas and recruit many of their players from those areas. See St. Mary's California: www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/25/college-basketball-how-little-saint-marys-became-little-australia/what started for the men's team, has carried over to the women's team. The current St. Mary's women's roster has two players from Australia and one from New Zealand. (And only one player from east of the Rocky Mountains, and she is from Kansas.) St Mary's BTW, hangs an Australian national flag on their home court. Exactly! Once you get that first recruit from the country and they have a good career, it helps to continue the pipeline. I just saw one of my clients Anna Maria women’s hockey has an Australia national team member on their roster. |
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