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Harvard
Oct 12, 2019 15:09:43 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Oct 12, 2019 15:09:43 GMT -5
Today, Massey makes Harvard a 7 point favorite over HC. (24-17) Harvard was given a 75% chance for the win...HC 25% (so there is still a chance).
Let's see how the point spread looks tomorrow when today's game is figured in.
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Harvard
Oct 12, 2019 15:33:28 GMT -5
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 12, 2019 15:33:28 GMT -5
Watched the end of Harvard / Cornell. Announcers said Harvard had six sacks and I believe they said 16 tackles for loss.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Oct 13, 2019 7:41:00 GMT -5
With homecoming and a big game, if the weather holds up do you there's a possibility of the attendance hitting 10K?
Luth +90 Wide + culture building staff = future success (and this humble observer thinks it's fast arriving!).
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Harvard
Oct 13, 2019 11:19:08 GMT -5
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 13, 2019 11:19:08 GMT -5
With homecoming and a big game, if the weather holds up do you there's a possibility of the attendance hitting 10K? Luth +90 Wide + culture building staff = future success (and this humble observer thinks it's fast arriving!). The weather is forecast to be warm and dry, Bermuda high offshore. Indian summer. However, the students are on fall break. Classes resume the 21st. During fall break, I expect there are few students on campus who are not athletes competing in fall sports. And teams for the fall sports all have away games on Sat. or Sun., with the exception of football. For example, the M/W crews will be in Boston for the Head of the Charles. Yale @ Dartmouth yesterday. Homecoming. Weather described as "nice". Attendance 6,796. (And Dartmouth was in session.)
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Post by hchoops on Oct 13, 2019 11:27:42 GMT -5
Back in the day, Homecoming was a big thing for students as well as alums
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 13, 2019 11:29:41 GMT -5
Some great music (at picnic and dances) on those weekends.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 13, 2019 11:31:55 GMT -5
Back in the day, Homecoming was a big thing for students as well as alums Yes it was. But back in the day there were no n nine day fall breaks.
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Post by hc87 on Oct 13, 2019 11:35:21 GMT -5
I think we'll see 10K (or around it) next week. Student attendance at HC for football games ( post 1980 or so) has never really been the determining factor for a big crowd at Fitton...it simply can't due to the # of students at HC. Our biggest crowds in the 1-AA era are usually a mix of an "event" weekend, alumni support, good weather, winning team, good/local opponent etc...this game ticks off a lot of those boxes.
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Harvard
Oct 13, 2019 18:54:02 GMT -5
Post by gks on Oct 13, 2019 18:54:02 GMT -5
Why would you have homecoming when students are away?
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 13, 2019 18:57:32 GMT -5
I guess because homecoming is meant chiefly for alumni who are "coming home" (as is the football team).
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Harvard
Oct 13, 2019 19:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 13, 2019 19:03:45 GMT -5
Back in the day, Homecoming was a big thing for students as well as alums Yes it was. But back in the day there were no n nine day fall breaks. Geneva Convention requires nine days off after midterm exams.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 13, 2019 19:07:42 GMT -5
Why would you have homecoming when students are away? Weekend after Harvard is Family weekend (game against Colgate). This was formerly known as Parents Weekend. Way back when average attendance was 15-18,000, there were two Parents weekends The home games after Colgate are Lafayette on Nov 9th (another holiday weekend), and Georgetown on the 23rd. As a rule of thumb, November dates in Worcester become too iffy weather-wise for celebratory events at Fitton. The better question is why do students need a nine day break six weeks after starting classes?
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 13, 2019 19:17:38 GMT -5
So a few can retreat to a "safe place" to avoid micro-aggressions?
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Post by CHC8485 on Oct 13, 2019 19:24:09 GMT -5
They don’t “need” it in the Spring either but have had a week off for Spring Break for a long time.
Back in my day we had 4 days for Columbus Day weekend. Several years ago they extended it to a full week to mirror Spring Break. Thinking on the full week in each semester allows more students to participate in many week long activities such as service & immersion trips (to Appalachia for example), retreats, career workshops, etc.
Suspect a decent portion will be back on campus by Saturday - not that large numbers would attend the football game. Tailgating, sure. Football, not so much.
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Harvard
Oct 13, 2019 19:28:08 GMT -5
Post by Crucis#1 on Oct 13, 2019 19:28:08 GMT -5
Why would you have homecoming when students are away? Weekend after Harvard is Family weekend (game against Colgate). This was formerly known as Parents Weekend. Way back when average attendance was 15-18,000, there were two Parents weekends The home games after Colgate are Lafayette on Nov 9th (another holiday weekend), and Georgetown on the 23rd. As a rule of thumb, November dates in Worcester become too iffy weather-wise for celebratory events at Fitton. The better question is why do students need a nine day break six weeks after starting classes? One could say that the HC professors are such rugged taskmasters ( non gender specific) in the classroom that the students really need a break to be ready for the sprint to Thanksgiving with the next set of major exams and research papers looming. 😊 The academic reason that I was told was the break was initiated for Holy Cross service projects that may be held both domestically (Appalachia, Inner City, Native American Reservations) and in some foreign countries, i.e Haiti, Also depending upon the classes taken, a trip study component could be built into the curriculum, that could not be accomplished at any other time during the semester.
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Harvard
Oct 13, 2019 19:31:48 GMT -5
Post by Crucis#1 on Oct 13, 2019 19:31:48 GMT -5
I was responding the same time as 8485. Seems as we both heard the same rationale for the week long break.
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Harvard
Oct 13, 2019 19:58:08 GMT -5
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 13, 2019 19:58:08 GMT -5
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Harvard
Oct 13, 2019 21:27:15 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 13, 2019 21:27:15 GMT -5
Stub Hub has to be gouging. Why would anyone pay over face value when there are always 12-15,000 empty seats. The visitors side is never sold out and even the most fervent Colgate fans will be showing up with bags over their heads with the way the Raiders are playing.
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Harvard
Oct 14, 2019 5:57:45 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Oct 14, 2019 5:57:45 GMT -5
FROM THE HARVARD FOOTBALL WEBSITE:
THE 2019 HARVARD football season—the school’s 146th—will begin in the same place the 1919 season ended: Southern California. (See Anniversaries, below.) One hundred years ago, Harvard was a postseason victor and was proclaimed national champion; this season, rest assured that November will not bring a bowl bid. Much has transpired since last November 17, when Harvard concluded a solid 6-4 season by beating Yale 45-27 at Fenway Park. Here are a few things to catch up on before the 2019 kickoff.
THE OPENER. Harvard lost their opener at San Diego 23-31. It was first win of the season for San Diego (1-2).
THE HOME OPENER. Harvard crushed Brown (42-7) in their home opener. They had Perry, Brown's QB, running for his life most of the game - after he had been FCS Player of the week in Brown's opener. (sound familiar?)
THE PROSPECTS. The happy days of Harvard gridiron hegemony, which lasted for roughly the first 15 years of the twenty-first century, are past. Beginning his twenty-sixth season on the Harvard sideline, coach Tim Murphy has not seen his team win or share a title in an increasingly balanced conference since 2015. Every player recruited during Murphy’s tenure has been on a team that won or shared at least one championship. For this year’s seniors, that streak is in severe jeopardy. In the Ivy League’s preseason media poll, the Crimson was picked fourth, behind Yale, Dartmouth, and Princeton. This seems about right, if only on paper. The Elis and the Big Green have two battle-tested quarterbacks apiece. The defending champion Tigers bring back the core of last season’s unbeaten juggernaut.
The Crimson (4-3 in the league in 2018, good for third place) must replace the guts of last season’s powerhouse offensive and defensive lines, and must settle on a quarterback from a group that includes junior (and onetime starter) Jake Smith and several promising newcomers. But Harvard has considerable strengths. Senior defensive back and captain Wes Ogsbury and junior linebacker Jordan Hill are among the league’s best at their positions. On offense, the junior running back tandem of Aaron Shampklin and Devin Darrington are threats to break a long one on any down. The wideouts—senior Jack Cook and juniors Tyler Adams and B.J. Watson—also can take it to the house. Likewise, the Crimson boasts two of the league’s best kickers: sophomore punter Jon Sot (41.1-yard average in 2018) and senior placekicker Jake McIntyre (successful on 13 of 15 field-goal attempts in ’18; see Milestones, below).)
MILESTONES. If Harvard wins or shares the Ivy title, it will be coach Tim Murphy’s tenth championship, tying him with vaunted Yale coach Carmen Cozza for most titles.
FAMILIAR FACES IN DIFFERENT PLACES. Most intriguingly, three players from last year’s Harvard roster, all of whom are from the class of ’19 with football eligibility remaining, are continuing their football careers for other college teams as so-called graduate transfers. Wideout and punt returner Justice Shelton-Mosley, healed from leg injuries suffered against Cornell that cut short his brilliant Harvard tenure, is playing for Vanderbilt in the rugged Southeastern Conference. In the Commodores’ first two games he caught five passes for 37 yards and reeled off a 23-yard run. Meantime, two one-time members of the Crimson backfield, both Texans, have landed at Rice. Last week, in the Owls’ 41-21 loss to Wake Forest, quarterback Tom Stewart, from Dallas, appeared in relief. Unsheathing the arm strength he showcased last season for Harvard, he completed 19 of 30 pass attempts for 185 yards and a touchdown; he also scored on a one-yard plunge. Former Crimson fullback Charlie Booker, from Houston, also made an appearance against the Demon Deacons, rushing five times for 13 yards.
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Harvard
Oct 14, 2019 6:03:56 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Oct 14, 2019 6:03:56 GMT -5
Since losing their opener at San Diego (23-31), Harvard has won three straight games against: Brown (42-7) Howard (62-17) and Cornell (35-22) All, three games were at home.
The Crimson have outscored their 2019 opponents 162-77.
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Harvard
Oct 14, 2019 6:57:42 GMT -5
Post by trimster on Oct 14, 2019 6:57:42 GMT -5
Sounds impressive but how good are the opponents.
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Harvard
Oct 14, 2019 7:03:57 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Oct 14, 2019 7:03:57 GMT -5
Legitimate question.
#39 San Diego (3-2) #99 Brown (1-3) #115 Howard (1-6) This game was a total mis-match, but I am sure it built confidence. #86 Cornell (1-3)
#29 Harvard Strength of Schedule = #97 (Massey) #48 HOLY CROSS SoS = #25 (Massey)
Harvard is 3-0 at home but has not yet won on the road (0-1). Let's hope that co antiques at First on Saturday.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 14, 2019 10:08:55 GMT -5
I probably should pump the brakes a little bit BUT a little bit of food for thought:
This sounds crazy but a Crusader win on Saturday could actually have AT LARGE FCS playoff implications. Let's say hypothetically that we lose to Fordham (we have to play them for their Homecoming), take care of business against the rest and tie for first place with the Rams at 5-1. Fordham gets the auto-bid. We would then be 8-4 with 2 FBS losses. Assuming UNH and Harvard don't completely collapse, those wins don't look too bad on the resume. While we would still likely end up on the outside looking in, HC would certainly be in the at-large discussion under that scenario.
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Harvard
Oct 14, 2019 11:12:35 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 14, 2019 11:12:35 GMT -5
I probably should pump the brakes a little bit BUT a little bit of food for thought: This sounds crazy but a Crusader win on Saturday could actually have AT LARGE FCS playoff implications. Let's say hypothetically that we lose to Fordham (we have to play them for their Homecoming), take care of business against the rest and tie for first place with the Rams at 5-1. Fordham gets the auto-bid. We would then be 8-4 with 2 FBS losses. Assuming UNH and Harvard don't completely collapse, those wins don't look too bad on the resume. While we would still likely end up on the outside looking in, HC would certainly be in the at-large discussion under that scenario. There is no brake pumping on Crossports. I like where you're going with this.
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Harvard
Oct 14, 2019 11:57:46 GMT -5
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Post by joutsHC77 on Oct 14, 2019 11:57:46 GMT -5
Yes it was. But back in the day there were no n nine day fall breaks. Geneva Convention requires nine days off after midterm exams. They have to recover in their safe spaces.
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