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Post by longsuffering on Nov 10, 2019 11:39:04 GMT -5
Great effort. We ( all sports at HC ) always seem to lose these big opportunity games when we stay close. Too bad. FB vs UConn with Peter Pujals starting his senior year is a good comparable to this game with Lauren Manis starting her senior year. Hopefully the ball will bounce our way in a close one later in the season.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 10, 2019 12:27:39 GMT -5
Maybe the last chance to win a game ‘we shouldn’t will come Wednesday night when BC comes to the Hart Agree here - we can’t get over the top in any of these big games - we have the team to beat BC - will we do it ?
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 10, 2019 12:56:18 GMT -5
That was the rap on Jack Donahue R.I.P.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 10, 2019 15:01:28 GMT -5
RIP, but no one ever truly dies on this board. Go Crusaders, beat the Eagles. It will be twice as sweet as beating the Illini.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 11, 2019 14:23:23 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 11, 2019 14:53:08 GMT -5
Never underestimate anything or anyone named Stevenson.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 11, 2019 14:56:29 GMT -5
Not cheated at all. Clemson is a MUCH better team than Illinois. Last year they ended up #39 in the nation (Massey) and they were top 50 this year before losing to Navy. Illinois, in contrast, has ranked between #140 and #200 nationally in recent years. Not nearly as good as the top PL schools in any of those years. For Navy to beat Clemson by double digits is extremely impressive. For HC to take Illinois to OT was a good effort - but not terribly surprising.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 11, 2019 14:59:58 GMT -5
The award is supposed to be for the player of the week, not the team of the week. I never claimed that Illinois was comparable to Clemson. A 20-20 game vs even a weak Big 10 team is more impressive that 17 points vs possibly a good Clemson team and 20 points vs some team called Stevenson.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 11, 2019 15:00:41 GMT -5
bison, Just a reminder, what happened in previous seasons does matter one bit in this season and this season's awards.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 11, 2019 15:01:42 GMT -5
Looks like the race for POY is off to a fast start. All are welcome to compete for it. WBB is one PL sport that is climbing the ladder in D-1.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 11, 2019 15:27:53 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 11, 2019 16:19:07 GMT -5
I can't imagine that anyone at the PL office is out to get one of the student-athletes.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 11, 2019 16:26:27 GMT -5
I can't help but believe with a win in that game, LM would have gotten the honor. There will be other days and other games.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 11, 2019 16:31:00 GMT -5
The award for the year is the one that counts.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 11, 2019 16:47:27 GMT -5
I can't imagine that anyone at the PL office is out to get one of the student-athletes. I agree they just made a poor decision
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Post by lou on Nov 11, 2019 16:57:40 GMT -5
Manis voted pre-season POY. First game goes 20/21 and doesnt get POW...she was robbed
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Post by timholycross on Nov 11, 2019 21:35:27 GMT -5
This was the team to get this kind of win - So close - 16 of 26 at the line hurt A bad trait of last year's team as well.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 11, 2019 22:43:33 GMT -5
bison, Just a reminder, what happened in previous seasons does matter one bit in this season and this season's awards. But the quality of the opponent matters. Clemson is a better team than Illinois - and Navy won.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 11, 2019 22:43:57 GMT -5
Manis voted pre-season POY. First game goes 20/21 and doesnt get POW...she was robbed Not at all.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 11, 2019 23:04:44 GMT -5
bison, Just a reminder, what happened in previous seasons does matter one bit in this season and this season's awards. But the quality of the opponent matters. Clemson is a better team than Illinois - and Navy won. As I wrote above, the award is supposed to go to the deserving player, not to the team that played a higher quality opponent., win or lose.
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Post by lou on Nov 12, 2019 7:54:59 GMT -5
Manis voted pre-season POY. First game goes 20/21 and doesnt get POW...she was robbed Not at all. I think many would disagree with you. You did see her game stats right? She had 20 or more points AND rebounds against Illinois, if that's not a POW performance then what is? Not 17 beating Clemson who I dont see in the latest poll anyway...
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 12, 2019 8:23:23 GMT -5
As we have seen, saying that someone is a strong team on CROSSPORTS does not always translate to the real world.
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Post by JRGNYR on Nov 12, 2019 8:55:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is still the case, but when I was in the WBB comm role at the PL, both the MBB and WBB weekly awards were done by a vote of the WBB SIDs across the league (and SIDs were not allowed to vote for their own nominees). There's also a list of criteria that they're to consider when reviewing the nominations. The quality of the opponent is definitely factored in. It's sometimes difficult early in the season to differentiate between quality of opponents so all you have to go off of is recent historical data, which would tell you that Clemson has been a much better team than Illinois, which may have been considered.
Then again, it's been 5-6 years since I've been there so things may have (or likely have) changed, but FWIW there's your peak behind the curtain.
Back to the sharpening of pitchforks...
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 12, 2019 8:56:30 GMT -5
Don’t rise to bison’s bait. Must be at least half his fun here getting Crusader fans’ blood pressure up. Otherwise, he’d spent more time on the Bucknell board and less time here.
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Post by JRGNYR on Nov 12, 2019 8:59:34 GMT -5
Don’t rise to bison’s bait. Must be at least half his fun here getting Crusader fans’ blood pressure up. Otherwise, he’d spent more time on the Bucknell board and less time here. Problem is it's way too easy for people here to get riled up about something that will largely be forgotten by this time next week. Also, he's not entirely wrong.
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