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Post by hchoops on Dec 17, 2019 13:19:26 GMT -5
That is, unless we win
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 17, 2019 14:30:44 GMT -5
This is the year we pull the upset. Or at least upset the spread
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 17, 2019 17:02:18 GMT -5
The other point in $ we would recv - I bet UConn pays us a fraction of what you hear other FBS schools pay for fcs games - they know it’s an hour drive down to Hartford
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 17, 2019 17:45:21 GMT -5
OTOH, UConn sure as heck wants a win if they are going to pay for the privilege against an FCS team. Think they want to play UNH, Maine and even Yale with the greater prospect of losing?
Right now, while we are on the cusp of ascendency, we aren't where we will be 2-3 years from now in all probability. They need to strike while the iron's hot.
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Post by moose1970 on Dec 17, 2019 19:36:34 GMT -5
This is the year we pull the upset. Or at least upset the spread Or at least upset the spread
i see, now we have 3 goals v BC football: 1- avoid injuries (run the clock, etc) 2- grab the money and run 3- beat the point spread that makes it all much better. (sorry, still can't drink the kool-aid here)
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Post by efg72 on Dec 17, 2019 19:39:03 GMT -5
This is the year we pull the upset. Or at least upset the spread Or at least upset the spread
i see, now we have 3 goals v BC football: 1- avoid injuries (run the clock, etc) 2- grab the money and run 3- beat the point spread that makes it all much better. (sorry, still can't drink the kool-aid here) How about steal a win🏈😀☘️
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Post by moose1970 on Dec 17, 2019 19:48:47 GMT -5
Might be good to have a game under our belts before we face the beagles and their new coach. Chesney's got the right idea: Burn the clock, avoid injuries, keep it positive,and move on to the next game. Personally, I'd just as soon open the season with that nonsensical game so we can get it behind us and focus on our real opponents for the rest of the season. (It would be nice to play two normal games to open 2020 and be primed to play Yale - their first game - and beat them at home our game 3 but the BC game kills that dream).
...that nonsensical game...
well, this is the first sensible comment i have heard here about playing BC in football. i have an idea. why not play "real opponents" every week so that we can have real football games each week? you know, where we can root for Crusader football and put away the rosary beads and holy water.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 17, 2019 19:54:34 GMT -5
During the holy season that works so let’s change the church calendar
I applaud playing 2 bigger programs each year and I believe it helps recruiting
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Post by moose1970 on Dec 17, 2019 20:03:22 GMT -5
Or at least upset the spread
i see, now we have 3 goals v BC football: 1- avoid injuries (run the clock, etc) 2- grab the money and run 3- beat the point spread that makes it all much better. (sorry, still can't drink the kool-aid here) How about steal a win🏈😀☘️ or maybe BC won't show up and we can win by forfeit? possibilities here are endless.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 17, 2019 20:11:11 GMT -5
Got the fact it is a Jesuit gift/paycheck
Depth, speed, quickness and talent differential are problematic Yet Like the 69 Mets you have to believe
After all hope is not a strategy or option
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 17, 2019 20:23:26 GMT -5
Again, the reason we play these FBS schools as I have understood it is two fold:
1. Help defray the huge expenses involved with running the football program so we still have a team that can play "real opponents" the rest of the season and 2. Because, whether you believe it or not, the players today want to play these games against "the best" and it actually helps in recruiting.
The finesse part of this is to play FBS teams that will maximize the payout while giving us a puncher's chance of winning or at least play a competitive game.
Again, as discussed ad nauseam here, UConn, UMass, (both "local" and weak FBS programs), Buffalo, Army and BC for tradition sake and Navy, perhaps. Syracuse, not so much, as we will likely never get to the level of 2007's Appalachian State's win over ranked Michigan.
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 17, 2019 20:52:49 GMT -5
If we only play real FCS games we have to say good bye to the PL and aloha to the CAA!
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 17, 2019 21:02:59 GMT -5
There is a half dozen New England schools I'd enjoy seeing HC play more than horrendous UConnvict. Doesn't matter to me one bit that they are classified as 1A, as they struggle vs 1AA competition, and would their ass kicked by a good portion of that level's programs. The desire by some here to play them on the reg is mind-boggling.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 17, 2019 21:07:13 GMT -5
I'd rather see us play URI, UNH, or UMaine (keeping it in New England) than UConn any day of the week. Especially on a Saturday.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 17, 2019 21:36:36 GMT -5
Those 3 schools will not pay us to play them.
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Post by gks on Dec 18, 2019 6:28:34 GMT -5
There is a half dozen New England schools I'd enjoy seeing HC play more than horrendous UConnvict. Doesn't matter to me one bit that they are classified as 1A, as they struggle vs 1AA competition, and would their ass kicked by a good portion of that level's programs. The desire by some here to play them on the reg is mind-boggling. I'd play them every year. Why not? A competitive game that's in a good location and make some coin.
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 18, 2019 16:18:10 GMT -5
I think the answer perhaps lies somewhere in the middle. A large payout from an FBS school can be the difference between red and black ink on the football balance sheet and gives the players and school good exposure. Both Army and Holy Cross scored the same amount of points on Navy this year (just saying!). That being said, too many of these games can eat into confidence, ability to get players going in the normal schemes and playbook, and keep everyone healthy. A good CAA non-conference opponent and our usual Ivy foes, draw well and provide a healthy challenge. It is worth noting that NDSU does not play any FBS opponents (I don't know if anyone wants to schedule them and only the top-25 teams probably have a shot at beating them handily). James Madison usually plays an FBS opponent and this year lost a tough battle against WVU 20-13. Could have easily swung the other way (and that is against a Big XII team). Does a win against UMass or UConn this season serve the team well? Depends on the payout and the ability to say we beat an FBS team. Is it worth it overall? I am sure we would fare better against them and the MAC schools, but the payouts would be lower as would the fan interest. A good balance of an FBS game, a CAA game, an Ivy or two, might be best for the program. Who knows!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 18, 2019 16:43:33 GMT -5
where can we find the HC 2020 schedule?
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Post by hchoops on Dec 18, 2019 16:48:54 GMT -5
Google it
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 18, 2019 17:04:55 GMT -5
Cruskater -- NDSU does not play FBS opponents annually anymore because no one will play them.
They've won their last 5 games against P5 schools including two in the Top 25. They managed to schedule Oregon for next year, however.
NDSU also has the rare ability at this level to schedule guarantee games at home against other FCS teams. Other schools that draw like that such as Montana, JMU and Delaware have done the same.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 18, 2019 17:28:43 GMT -5
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Post by moose1970 on Dec 18, 2019 20:04:13 GMT -5
I think the answer perhaps lies somewhere in the middle. A large payout from an FBS school can be the difference between red and black ink on the football balance sheet and gives the players and school good exposure. Both Army and Holy Cross scored the same amount of points on Navy this year (just saying!). That being said, too many of these games can eat into confidence, ability to get players going in the normal schemes and playbook, and keep everyone healthy. A good CAA non-conference opponent and our usual Ivy foes, draw well and provide a healthy challenge. It is worth noting that NDSU does not play any FBS opponents (I don't know if anyone wants to schedule them and only the top-25 teams probably have a shot at beating them handily). James Madison usually plays an FBS opponent and this year lost a tough battle against WVU 20-13. Could have easily swung the other way (and that is against a Big XII team). Does a win against UMass or UConn this season serve the team well? Depends on the payout and the ability to say we beat an FBS team. Is it worth it overall? I am sure we would fare better against them and the MAC schools, but the payouts would be lower as would the fan interest. A good balance of an FBS game, a CAA game, an Ivy or two, might be best for the program. Who knows! A large payout from an FBS school can be the difference between red and black ink on the football balance sheet...
do all sports at holy cross need to operate in the black?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 18, 2019 20:23:56 GMT -5
For those of you who think UConnvict pays a ton to 1AA schools, they don't. Lafayette is getting 285K in 2023 and 300 large in 2026. I'm near certain HC is getting less.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 18, 2019 20:56:45 GMT -5
There is no black, only varying degrees of red for all FCS football schools.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 18, 2019 22:56:27 GMT -5
I'm not an old country lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, but I'm pretty sure we are compensated if UConn pulls our game. Decent game for us in a lot of ways (competitive, local etc) but I wouldn't shed too many tears if we can get another FBS game in '21. Thanks Matlock. When we open against BC we will be defending league champs and they will be playing their first game with a brand new coaching staff. Just sayin'.
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