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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 23, 2019 17:12:09 GMT -5
Voice in the wilderness. Lift the redshirt restrictions. Increase the number of FBS transfers. What's next? These changes clearly demonstrate the slippery slope of a greater emphasis on football. What ends are served by increased emphasis on football with presumably better teams? How do these changes in policy serve the best overall interests of HC? What is the concern here? Letting a student matriculate for nine semesters instead of eight does not violate the precepts of the College--they will still graduate... and at a high rate, too. And if a student transfers in, are they not capable of a great education as well, or are you saying only admitted freshmen are allowed to take full benefit of what the College has to offer? The Holy Cross football roster is no longer filled with kids from Catholic high schools--only about a third. Is this a concern, too? Remember, these are students who want to be at Holy Cross, not the other way around. A transfer is not an academic reject or somehow too talented for the PL's fragile ecosystem. The PL has to be the only place in Division I where appearances are more important than results.
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Post by gks on Dec 23, 2019 17:28:49 GMT -5
Voice in the wilderness. Lift the redshirt restrictions. Increase the number of FBS transfers. What's next? These changes clearly demonstrate the slippery slope of a greater emphasis on football. What ends are served by increased emphasis on football with presumably better teams? How do these changes in policy serve the best overall interests of HC? What is the concern here? Letting a student matriculate for nine semesters instead of eight does not violate the precepts of the College--they will still graduate... and at a high rate, too. And if a student transfers in, are they not capable of a great education as well, or are you saying only admitted freshmen are allowed to take full benefit of what the College has to offer? The Holy Cross football roster is no longer filled with kids from Catholic high schools--only about a third. Is this a concern, too? Remember, these are students who want to be at Holy Cross, not the other way around. A transfer is not an academic reject or somehow too talented for the PL's fragile ecosystem. The PL has to be the only place in Division I where appearances are more important than results.Great line.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 23, 2019 20:32:32 GMT -5
I think that is the beauty of a HC experience We all want what is best for the school, but how define it and think about it might be different Merry Christmas
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 24, 2019 0:15:15 GMT -5
So ...... Getting back to the original question, has anyone heard definitively the team that we will be playing to complete the 11th game schedule?
Merry Christmas to all!
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Post by hc87 on Jan 7, 2020 14:46:33 GMT -5
Bump....week into 2020 (where are the flying cahhhs??).....any info on an 11th game this year?
I think most of the local CAA schools are already at 11 games. NEC added Merrimack and LIU last year, which complicates scheduling those schools. We're already at 3 Ivies....looks like we might have to go "outside the box" here.
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Post by gks on Jan 7, 2020 14:57:07 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with "outside the box."
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Post by HCFC45 on Jan 7, 2020 15:59:49 GMT -5
Don't know about an eleventh game, but we should hear shortly about the full schedules going forward for the next several years....
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 7, 2020 19:18:29 GMT -5
UMass Boston doesn't have Football. Thank God.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 7, 2020 19:26:11 GMT -5
The few FBS independents may be more likely than FCS teams to have an opening because they have twelve slots to fill and no league games. And thinking outside the box in the other direction, if HC was really desperate, Assumption University might re-work their schedule to accommodate Coach Chesney and Holy Cross. But that would leave us with the same risk/reward ratio as the UMass Boston Basketball game.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 7, 2020 19:29:46 GMT -5
The few FBS independents may be more likely than FCS teams to have an opening because they have twelve slots to fill and no league games. I believe that next season all teams return to 11 games
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 7, 2020 19:34:07 GMT -5
Sanity. 11 games is enough.
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Post by gks on Jan 7, 2020 19:35:56 GMT -5
FBS can always play 12 I believe. FCS 11 is max except in years like 2019 when the calendar is a bit quirky.
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Post by cmo on Jan 7, 2020 20:11:50 GMT -5
Any chance of our game at Harvard being their Friday night Game?
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Post by timholycross on Jan 7, 2020 22:55:36 GMT -5
I liked the year it was on a Saturday night. Fridays don't cut it for me and a lot of other folks.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 8, 2020 6:02:48 GMT -5
Any chance of our game at Harvard being their Friday night Game? The game is Saturday October 3. Its quite possible, even likely, it might be a night game. Harvard opens against Georgetown on Sept 19, which is Rosh HaShanah, observance of which begins at sundown. IIRC, Harvard failed to consider a Jewish high holiday when scheduling a game some years back (night game against Brown?) and caught grief for it. GU and HC are Harvard's only home games until Oct 28.
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Post by cmo on Jan 8, 2020 13:35:58 GMT -5
I liked the year it was on a Saturday night. Fridays don't cut it for me and a lot of other folks. Saturday night would be ideal. Am i correct in thinking we played them on a Friday night there as well ?
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Post by jflare on Jan 10, 2020 20:48:35 GMT -5
I thought that next year would be another year when FCS schools could have 12 games like 2019 ? Anyone know if that is the case or not
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 10, 2020 20:59:42 GMT -5
Nope. 2020 is max 11 for fcs and the usual 12 for fbs schools (save the Hawaii exemption)
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Post by timholycross on Jan 10, 2020 21:34:08 GMT -5
I liked the year it was on a Saturday night. Fridays don't cut it for me and a lot of other folks. Saturday night would be ideal. Am i correct in thinking we played them on a Friday night there as well ? Yes; in fact, HC has played them on Friday night 4 times (2008, 12, 14 and 18). 2010 was a Saturday night game.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 10, 2020 22:00:13 GMT -5
I thought that next year would be another year when FCS schools could have 12 games like 2019 ? Anyone know if that is the case or not There have to be 14 Saturdays between Saturday of Labor Day weekend and the last Saturday in November. That’s Sept 5 - Nov 28 this year, which is only 13 Saturdays.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 13, 2020 14:08:02 GMT -5
The next 12 game season is '24.....the pattern is 5 years, then back to back i.e 2019, 2024, 2025 then 2029...then it repeats in 2034....
Anyone on "out of the box" suggestions for 2020 opponent and/or beyond?
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Post by gerry on Jan 17, 2020 20:53:17 GMT -5
Merrimack has recently moved up to FCS, and appears to only two OOC games scheduled for next year. Unfortunately, they are at JMU and UNH (aggressive scheduling), so I would guess that they would probably host a D2 team as the third team. Presbyterian seems to have several openings on their schedule being an FCS independent which would certainly be a bizarre matchup. Sacred Heart looks like they have an opening. Now moving dates around might be tricky...
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 17, 2020 23:56:27 GMT -5
Merrimack has recently moved up to FCS, and appears to only two OOC games scheduled for next year. Unfortunately, they are at JMU and UNH (aggressive scheduling), so I would guess that they would probably host a D2 team as the third team. Presbyterian seems to have several openings on their schedule being an FCS independent which would certainly be a bizarre matchup. Sacred Heart looks like they have an opening. Now moving dates around might be tricky... Merrimack’s head coach is a UNH legend...so might be the reason he is going there.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 18, 2020 6:36:31 GMT -5
Merrimack has recently moved up to FCS, and appears to only two OOC games scheduled for next year. Unfortunately, they are at JMU and UNH (aggressive scheduling), so I would guess that they would probably host a D2 team as the third team. Presbyterian seems to have several openings on their schedule being an FCS independent which would certainly be a bizarre matchup. Sacred Heart looks like they have an opening. Now moving dates around might be tricky... I noticed Merrimack's counterpart (entered NEC football together), LIU, was pretty aggressive in their own scheduling this year as they played South Dakota State and Villanova. Unfortunately they (LIU) are booked September 5 as they are playing Montana State. FWIW they are also playing Delaware and Lehigh this year.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 18, 2020 13:17:39 GMT -5
I really don't want to play Merrimack anytime soon...sorry, not sorry.
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