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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 30, 2019 15:27:20 GMT -5
Chesney seems like a great leader and has done a very good job recruiting, but if he doesn’t get rid of Murphy and bring in a competent OC with an offense that can compete in D1 football today, this program will never take the next step.
The PL was awful this year, we lose Cozier, who totally carried the offense this year, and you have to think that James could be at risk of moving up (if not this year, then soon).
It would be a massive mistake to continue with this same inept offensive approach.
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Nov 30, 2019 15:28:28 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 30, 2019 15:28:28 GMT -5
Was Eddie Scott the dual threat QB that got away?
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Nov 30, 2019 15:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 30, 2019 15:28:51 GMT -5
How is Scott eligible this year?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 30, 2019 15:29:19 GMT -5
Was Eddie Scott the dual threat QB that got away? Yes
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 30, 2019 15:31:22 GMT -5
Let's see what he. does next year before saying anything about him "getting away."
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Post by inhocsigno on Nov 30, 2019 15:31:44 GMT -5
He was not not good enough to play at HC. Does not affect us.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 30, 2019 15:33:31 GMT -5
Not that it would have changed the final result, but sure would be interesting to see how the game would have played out if Considine played from the first series. And maybe we don’t lose to a bad Lafayette team and/or Harvard, and potentially get a home game/more favorable matchup.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 30, 2019 15:34:37 GMT -5
PS: I have to believe Scott got in less because he is the #2 QB at Monmouth, than the fact that he transferred from HC.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 30, 2019 15:39:51 GMT -5
Winning record, PL champ, FCS game, and now awaiting a big check from ESPN3. Not a bad year.
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Post by joutsHC77 on Nov 30, 2019 15:42:52 GMT -5
Keep improving to make an impact in playoffs. Think some staff and system changes have to be made.
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Post by sader81 on Nov 30, 2019 15:54:47 GMT -5
Disappointed with the result, but after their start, who would have thought they would have gotten this far. Future is bright!
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 30, 2019 15:56:52 GMT -5
Obviously the QB play has not been good. But that's mostly been the case all year. FCS level is mostly dominated by strong QB play (see Randolph, Dom), it's actually pretty remarkable that we've come this far given the caliber of our QB play. For today, though, we dance with the guys who got us here. Agreed. They got here. But... considine hasn’t done anything memorable this season in his limited exposure. So either stick with CD or if you’re going to play other QBs. Throw in Clifford and lastly, Butash. We had a good chance to watch Clifford last year. From a fan perspective I would have liked to see Butash get in to a few games. It seemed like once CD was selected as starter the thinking I projected onto the coaching staff was "how can we replace a QB with 3, 5, 7 games experience with either Considine or Butash who have none, even if they are showing potential? We can't download that game experience into the other two." Then finally Considine was given a chance but it could have been too little too late. The good news is CD seemed to win the starting spot due to improvement over the off-season as he was behind Clifford last year, so Chris Butash should have every opportunity to improve and compete for the starting position next season.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 30, 2019 16:19:59 GMT -5
CD was 2nd team All-PL QB this year for perspective.
The kid did a nice job this year imo all things considered. Competition is always good and should strengthen the position next year.
The good news is, we won the PL this year with a somewhat flawed team in general...in toto, they did a great job in winning the PL but there were a fair amount of holes on both sides of the ball that I think will be less so next year.
Bullish on 2020 and beyond in general.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 30, 2019 16:24:38 GMT -5
Can anyone answer how Scott was eligible to play this afternoon without having to sit out during the 2019 season due to transferring? Did the NCAA grant a waiver?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 30, 2019 16:55:19 GMT -5
Special teams A++
Offense C-/D. Given good field position multi-times in the first half, and nada to show for it. For suspect playcalling: fourth and one+, Oliver enters the game for the first time, single back, so everyone can now key on him getting the ball, and he dutifully runs straight into the center of the line. If the offense had a third of the ingenuity that the HC special teams displayed just on the onside kicks, it would have been a helluva ballgame.
Defense C. Unable to contain Guerriero wide, 31 carries, average of 7 yards a carry. Monmouth 502 yards total offense.
IMO, Considine is a more accurate passer than CD, and less subject to making errant throws. His one interception was off a ball that the receiver should have caught. There was a short video clip of HC 2019 spring practice, which, IIRC, featured Scott and his mobility afoot in running the RPO. Considine's greatest weakness is that he is relatively immobile.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 30, 2019 17:11:15 GMT -5
Can anyone answer how Scott was eligible to play this afternoon without having to sit out during the 2019 season due to transferring? Did the NCAA grant a waiver? Probably got a no participation waiver that HC did not object to; i.e., he was slotted behind too many other QBs. For Monmouth, he is the third string QB.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 30, 2019 17:11:18 GMT -5
Fair (pp's grades)....not to belabor the point (but will of course), we really had many games this season were we played very inconsistently for long stretches of those games. I think the first 3 Q's of the Colgate game were about the best we looked overall this season.
Point being, as inconsistent and sloppy as we were for much of this season, we were 7-3 vs FCS and 5-1 in the PL.
I'm not saying everything is perfectly in place...but it's hard not to be bullish moving forward.
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Nov 30, 2019 17:23:53 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 30, 2019 17:23:53 GMT -5
Like Kalif Raymond, Cozier seemed to blossom late or perhaps they both had too many nagging injuries to reach their full potential at HC. Chesney is a good coach. I hope that includes coaching better than average improvement for players during the off season and consistent improvement throughout their HC career with minimal plateauing.
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Post by deep Purple on Nov 30, 2019 17:35:02 GMT -5
Point being, as inconsistent and sloppy as we were for much of this season, we were 7-3 vs FCS and 5-1 in the PL. I'm not saying everything is perfectly in place...but it's hard not to be bullish moving forward. I agree but keep in mind that #1 will not be walking through that door. Try to think of our offense this year without him. It's not a pleasant thought.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 17:42:25 GMT -5
To put this year into context, there hasn't been a QB since 2003 (1-11) that had a worse completion percentage (Brian Schiller 49.3%). Since Schiller was a back up, there hasn't been a starter with this low of a completion pct in the 21st century Obviously, drops and offensive schematics shoulder a large portion of the blame, however, Degenhardt was voted second best QB in the Patriot League. Degenhardt: 53.37% Considine: 51.85% ***Peter Pujals in 2017 was around 55% and John O'Neill in 2005 was around 55% KY Crusader 75 : Is there a way to dig deeper into our statistical archive to see where these completion pct's fall all time among starters?
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Post by efg72 on Nov 30, 2019 17:46:58 GMT -5
Look for Forest-#5- to impact the offense next 3 years
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 30, 2019 17:48:10 GMT -5
Hoping #89 does too. Was rated #4 TE coming out of HS
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Post by jets5151 on Nov 30, 2019 18:09:26 GMT -5
Saying Holy Cross is a walkover is ludicrously delusional. Who is the clown who wrote that? Hmmm, guess that clown was a smart clown!!
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Post by crossbball13 on Nov 30, 2019 18:30:49 GMT -5
Considine will be the starter next year. We will have a better offense next year.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 30, 2019 18:34:03 GMT -5
To put this year into context, there hasn't been a QB since 2003 (1-11) that had a worse completion percentage (Brian Schiller 49.3%). Since Schiller was a back up, there hasn't been a starter with this low of a completion pct in the 21st century Obviously, drops and offensive schematics shoulder a large portion of the blame, however, Degenhardt was voted second best QB in the Patriot League. Degenhardt: 53.37% Considine: 51.85% ***Peter Pujals in 2017 was around 55% and John O'Neill in 2005 was around 55% KY Crusader 75 : Is there a way to dig deeper into our statistical archive to see where these completion pct's fall all time among starters? The archives “history” in football section will show passing leader for each season
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