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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2019 9:31:42 GMT -5
Missed yesterday’s deadline to buy tickets via HC.
Told this morning they had a 200 seat allotment at $20 apiece behind the HC bench.
Will be going down to the game courtesy of sader1998 who will drive me. HC advised I would have to get tickets through Monmouth and it turns out like HC they use a 3rd party to sell (complete with handling charges).
When I called, they said there were only 10 seats left!!! So, despite what expectations of most here were, looks like a big crowd in a small stadium,
They could not answer about handicap seating for me but I will Crossports that bridge when I get to it.
Did get a nice note from Domenic Cozier hoping I can go to keep the unbeaten string alive (set at 1, the UNH game!😂).
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Post by HC92 on Nov 26, 2019 9:36:15 GMT -5
Geographically the PL would make a lot of sense for Monmouth and vice versa. I think they could've been a nice add at the time. At the time, Crossports would've screamed bloody murder that they were even considered. Some were embarrassed that we even scheduled them for the 2013 / 2015 home and home. Oh, how the FCS football landscape has changed. If the PL still wants to consider itself a form of Ivy-Lite conference, it can’t make Monmouth a member. It’s just not a particularly strong school by any objective measure (77% admission rate, 56% 4-year grad rate, etc). In US News, it’s tied for 28th in Regional Universities - North with Lebanon Valley and SUNY - New Paltz.
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Post by gks on Nov 26, 2019 9:46:00 GMT -5
Monmouth would raise the football profile of the Patriot League athletically by leaps and bounds. Travel is convenient for all member too.
Isn't Fordham's acceptance rate high? There in. Being "ivy-lite" has not benefited the PL schools one bit.
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Post by joe on Nov 26, 2019 9:52:14 GMT -5
Why would Monmouth subject itself to the stringent restrictions of the PL when it’s dominating the Big South? Similarly why would the PL ever consider lowering its academic profile to accept Monmouth? To my knowledge Monmouth is not aspiring to become an elite academic school. This whole conversation belongs on a different planet.
The PL is an awesome league of schools. What needs to happen is a league-wide acknowledgement that the overall athletic profile of the league can be improved by relaxing roster and red-shirting restrictions. On the selection show the PL’s performance against OOC was termed “carnage,” except as it relates HC. Has the PL ever had an at large bid to the FCS playoffs? You have to try something different at some point. A couple of league bylaw revisions is a simple and cost effective start.
I am very impressed, however, with how successfully Monmouth has ramped up its football program. This goes to show that turnarounds can happen and happen fast.
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 26, 2019 10:04:51 GMT -5
Missed yesterday’s deadline to buy tickets via HC. Told this morning they had a 200 seat allotment at $20 apiece behind the HC bench. Will be going down to the game courtesy of sader1998 who will drive me. HC advised I would have to get tickets through Monmouth and it turns out like HC they use a 3rd party to sell (complete with handling charges). When I called, they said there were only 10 seats left!!! So, despite what expectations of most here were, looks like a big crowd in a small stadium, They could not answer about handicap seating for me but I will Crossports that bridge when I get to it. Did get a nice note from Domenic Cozier hoping I can go to keep the unbeaten string alive (set at 1, the UNH game!😂). I wouldn't want this info to stifle the attendance of HC fans...perhaps the 10 seats was referring to the "HC" section because if you look online there are plenty of tickets available, including entire sections. I suspect section 102 may be the HC section (or the student section) as that has no, or limited availability and clearly is not the best seats. mpv.tickets.com/?agency=MNMV_PLAGENCY_MPV&orgId=44869&ccid=MNMV&pid=8787274#/event/8787274/seatmap/?selectBuyers=false&minPrice=15&maxPrice=25&quantity=2&sort=price_asc&ada=false&seatSelection=true&onlyCoupon=true&onlyVoucher=false
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 26, 2019 10:09:26 GMT -5
I remember speaking with some Monmouth alums. They envied our alumni base and how we function. All of them would love to see Monmouth in the PL. HOWEVER, as nice a job as they are doing, this is a much bigger school than most PL colleges (except for BU) and they might soon outdo the PL from this point on.
Remember the attitude some of us had about Monmouth - ridiculing HC for even being willing to play them. Times have indeed changed.
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Post by lou on Nov 26, 2019 10:13:01 GMT -5
HC section is 110...so there are better seats getting them through Monmouth. Plus you don't have to be among the 200 chosen by the Development office to get an HC ticket. Those lucky winners will know tomorrow
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2019 10:13:21 GMT -5
1998, per Holy Cross, the section for their allotment was section 110.
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 26, 2019 10:23:45 GMT -5
1998, per Holy Cross, the section for their allotment was section 110. Ahh...that probably explains the "10 tickets left" as presently online it is showing 18 (and the rep could have either estimated or a few got thrown back)...in that case 109 and 111 are almost completely available, if someone wants to sit near HC but doesn't want to choose the low tickets still available in 110
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 26, 2019 10:30:29 GMT -5
Missed yesterday’s deadline to buy tickets via HC. Told this morning they had a 200 seat allotment at $20 apiece behind the HC bench. Will be going down to the game courtesy of sader1998 who will drive me. HC advised I would have to get tickets through Monmouth and it turns out like HC they use a 3rd party to sell (complete with handling charges). When I called, they said there were only 10 seats left!!! So, despite what expectations of most here were, looks like a big crowd in a small stadium, They could not answer about handicap seating for me but I will Crossports that bridge when I get to it. Did get a nice note from Domenic Cozier hoping I can go to keep the unbeaten string alive (set at 1, the UNH game!😂). Maybe you will be upgraded to the 50 yard line section PP thinks is probably ADA seating. Sometimes the lowest price and no handling charges for those seats as they are processed manually and you can bring your helper with you.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 26, 2019 10:39:23 GMT -5
Holy Cross was Yahoo! Sports FCS team of the week. Here is the link: sports.yahoo.com/fcs-team-week-holy-cross-playoff-bound-035849721--ncaaf.htmlHoly Cross' record was a mere 1-3 heading into October, but the Crusaders' difficult nonleague schedule had hardened them for the most important part of their regular season. It's paid off with a Patriot League championship, and after Holy Cross shut out Georgetown 24-0 on Saturday with a peak performance, the STATS FCS Team of the Week will make its first appearance in the national playoffs since 2009, and just the Crusaders' third overall. "These guys," an emotional coach Bob Chesney said, "their desire, their resolve, their commitment, their effort, their energy, those are words I think about every single day when we come to work. It's a pleasure to be able to come in here every day, and to be able to do this with this team, for this school and for this community at this moment, it's a special day." Holy Cross (7-5, 5-1) has come a long way from the first month of the season, when it beat CAA Football power New Hampshire, but also lost to eventual Ivy League co-champ Yale and to two FBS programs, Navy and Syracuse. The Crusaders have a 20-member senior class, and none has been more important than tailback Domenic Cozier. Against Georgetown, which was denied a winning season by the Crusaders for the second consecutive year, Cozier carried the ball 23 times for 161 yards and two touchdowns. He topped 1,000 yards for the season with his fifth 100-yard game - all in the league wins. The defense may have been at its best, allowing just 233 yards and causing four turnovers in the shutout. Freshman linebacker Jacob Dobbs scored on a 56-yard interception return in the final minute of the first half, making it 14-0. Dobbs finished with seven tackles, a sack, two tackles for loss and two interceptions, while senior defensive back Correy Stefanik had a team-high 10 tackles. The Crusaders, seven-time Patriot League champs, will learn their playoff opponent on Sunday. HONORABLE MENTION: Bethune-Cookman (31-27 win over No. 12 Florida A&M); No. 8 Montana State (48-14 win over No. 3 Montana); No. 23 Nicholls (28-27 win over No. 21 Southeastern Louisiana); South Dakota (24-21 win over No. 5 South Dakota State) Seven time Patriot League Champion, third time FCS playoffs participant. Let's not get suckered into anymore arrangements like this again. Go Cross!
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Post by HC92 on Nov 26, 2019 12:45:46 GMT -5
Monmouth would raise the football profile of the Patriot League athletically by leaps and bounds. Travel is convenient for all member too. Isn't Fordham's acceptance rate high? There in. Being "ivy-lite" has not benefited the PL schools one bit. Monmouth would not be nearly as good in football in the PL as they are in the Big South. The recruiting and other limitations on PL football teams are real (but not spectacular). Fordham’s acceptance rate is 46%. Its endowment is more than 7x that of Monmouth. It is a well-known National University based in NYC. Monmouth is a relatively unknown Regional University in West Long Branch, NJ.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 26, 2019 13:05:01 GMT -5
Again, the only school out there that could really jump right into the PL for football is Villanova. No other school in the Northeast meets the criteria for academic reputation, existing D1 football program, geography, institutional size/familiarity etc etc
Not advocating for it, just that this has been talked about here and elsewhere for awhile...some may be new to the conversation on PL football expansion.
I actually like having the 5 (some years 6) OOC games and am not a proponent for PL football expansion.
We actually make the trip back to Monmouth in 2021. They were also one of our "night games" at Fitton...remembah those???
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Post by JRGNYR on Nov 26, 2019 13:58:29 GMT -5
Geographically the PL would make a lot of sense for Monmouth and vice versa. I think they could've been a nice add at the time. Quoting and bolding as it seems some have run with my statement while bringing up academics. I never said anything about academics. If you want to include academics, then yes, there are others that might be better fits. But remember, we're talking about football-only here, not full membership. The very nature of the PL's academic restrictions significantly limit the number of potential affiliate football members who "check all the boxes."
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Post by hcpride on Nov 26, 2019 14:19:01 GMT -5
Geographically the PL would make a lot of sense for Monmouth and vice versa. I think they could've been a nice add at the time. Quoting and bolding as it seems some have run with my statement while bringing up academics. I never said anything about academics. If you want to include academics, then yes, there are others that might be better fits. But remember, we're talking about football-only here, not full membership. The very nature of the PL's academic restrictions significantly limit the number of potential affiliate football members who "check all the boxes." I agree that Monmouth would make a nice football-only member and certainly their geographic location is a big plus. They also take their FCS football seriously and would be a nice football rival for us and might help the PL turn into a two bid league a little more frequently. I agree their academics might mean their AI would be a bit lower than HC...but we are a bit lower than Georgetown and that has not ruined anything. Heck, having an academic mix in a league hasn't hurt the ACC, CAA, SEC, Big East, NEWMAC, and for the Ivy -envy folks remember that Harvard and Yale put up with the fake Ivy (Cornell ). (This is not to suggest Monmouth would be interested...but the PL for football only might have more appeal than the current Big South for football only. )
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Nov 26, 2019 16:58:35 GMT -5
Looking forward to the Monmouth game. Has HC ever won a FCS playoff game?
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Post by HCFC45 on Nov 26, 2019 17:15:03 GMT -5
Would love to be there but have a most important event on that day. It will be 51 years to the day (November 30, 1968) that we will be celebrating our wedding anniversary! Holy Cross played at BC that day and lost to the Eagles 40 - 20. I kept getting updates on the game from the hostess at Pleasant Valley Country Club during the reception. Wishing the football team "All the Best" and hope they can bring home a "W" to make Saturday even more enjoyable! !
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 26, 2019 17:25:30 GMT -5
Looking forward to the Monmouth game. Has HC ever won a FCS playoff game? 0-2 currently 1-2 after Saturday
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 26, 2019 20:31:16 GMT -5
Thanks, Phreek, for the picture of Kessler in the other thread.
Ordered and got my GA tickets on-line through Monmouth's 3rd party processor, TicketOffices.com. However, I later called Monmouth athletics and spoke to a very nice guy, Mike Jennings, their new assistant AD of ticketing. He said I can swap out my GA tickets at the box office for handicap seats, the ones presumably in the "big square" at the 50 yard line in Phreek's picture.
We had a little banter back and forth when I asked him if my boot and knee roller were sufficient to prove my temporary disability or would I need a doctor's note. He joked, "no, just wear Monmouth Blue and you'll have no problem." He was obviously joking because when I said I was a Crusader fan he said he knew. I asked him if my email gave it away and he said, "no, your Rhode Island phone number. I haven't seen your email yet."
He then said, while the RI phone number made me likely to be a Crusader, he said that he knew there are a lot of Crusaders coming from local NJ and NY. He also said they are very excited to be in the playoffs and to have a home game.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 26, 2019 21:31:36 GMT -5
A lot of bipartisan excitement will be jammed into that 4200 seat band box.
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Post by beachbound on Nov 26, 2019 23:11:25 GMT -5
As a Monmouth county resident since 2005, very much looking forward to Saturday’s game as it is a 15 minute drive. I will say Monmouth U has transformed itself over the time I have lived here and is a much improved academic institution. They also have a nice athletic department. Whether they are a good candidate for the PL is something I am not qualified to judge but it is a school on a solid upward trajectory that is gaining popularity with students in the mid Atlantic region. Go Holy Cross!
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 27, 2019 7:24:46 GMT -5
Monmouth is right near the Jersey shore. It is (and has long been) the college visited by the most high school seniors as one of their college visitations - an excused absence, These visits take place on the first warm sunny weekday every spring!
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Post by alum on Nov 27, 2019 8:42:05 GMT -5
A lot of bipartisan excitement will be jammed into that 4200 seat band box. I love the term "band box." Here is the origin. www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/mlb/bandbox.aspx"What is Bandbox?
A slang term for the former Philadelphia baseball park officially known as “National League Park.” This term is also used to refer to ballparks with smaller-than-average playing fields that favor home-run hitters.
Sporting Charts explains Bandbox
The “Baker Bowl,” or cigarbox or bandbox as it was nick-named, was a baseball park erected in the last decade of the 19th century in Philadelphia that was notorious for its smaller dimensions. The distance from home plate to the right-field wall was a mere 280 feet, while right-center was 300. This made the ballpark a nightmare for most pitchers, as it didn’t take much for balls to leave the stadium.
Since Baker Bowl’s closure in 1938, bandbox has been used colloquially to refer to any ballpark, like Fenway or Ebbets Field, which has dimensions that make the park home-run friendly. "
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 27, 2019 9:51:47 GMT -5
In horse racing there is a similar term for race tracks that are smaller than the customary 1 mile or longer distance: "bull rings", evoking the small, round arenas in which bull fights are conducted.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 27, 2019 9:56:31 GMT -5
As a Monmouth county resident since 2005, very much looking forward to Saturday’s game as it is a 15 minute drive. I will say Monmouth U has transformed itself over the time I have lived here and is a much improved academic institution. They also have a nice athletic department. Whether they are a good candidate for the PL is something I am not qualified to judge but it is a school on a solid upward trajectory that is gaining popularity with students in the mid Atlantic region. Go Holy Cross! Reminds me a little of Quinnipiac. Lots of investments at a school with low endowment with an emphasis on athletics as a significant part of their marketing plan. Quinnipiac is definitely better academically than it was and has a nice campus with some strong athletic teams and nice facilities. Despite all the investments, still not a great school but better.
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