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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 10, 2019 21:57:32 GMT -5
Might this game be karma for the arrogant and self-righteous members of this board who think Holy Cross is superior to everyone? Congrats to Umass Boston great for those young men to get a chance and capitalize on their chance. So many of you on here that just live in the past and I realize it's an older board but goodness maybe this will help you see to love your team but also respect your opponents. Absolutely right on these 2 points.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 10, 2019 21:58:54 GMT -5
Oh, UNH, yes, I give them credit. They played their hearts out and even with 3 of their players fouling out, they never gave up and pulled off an upset that they will tell they grandchildren about. If I was a UMass Boston fan, I'd be ecstatic. But I'm not. Actually none of us are old enough to remember when the team was REALLY good, in the 50s, except for one or two. And even those guys would say, same as Coach K did when his team lost to Stephen F Austin; that the team that deserved to win, did.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 10, 2019 22:00:44 GMT -5
Are the Nelson post game pressers anywhere ? We dont seem to get them on the web site anymore? He took full responsibility in his post game chat with Dick Lutsk. He said the players thought the game would be easy and weren't in the right frame if mind, which is his fault - or something similar. Happy to have Coach Nelson but hope things don't get away from him. On a Butler drive at the end of the game he appeared to take big loping movements and got stuffed by a Beacon defender perfectly with no foul. Maybe he was tired but it didn't look good.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 10, 2019 22:01:07 GMT -5
I get the lack of defense and will live with the inability of this current roster to play a solid m/m defense as long as they improve. Offensively, however, without Lowder they don’t have the quickness to play 1-1 against most all of our opponents
D3 players usually a half step slower matched up well with us tonight and I think surprised many of the kids. We have a few players that go to the basket like a bull breaking out of a cabinet, sometimes effectively, but most times not. Despite significant PTs put on the board by Pridgen the others stand around and watch and frequently take away lanes and result in unforced turnovers.
Nelson has his hands full right now, but I am sure he will find a path forward
Patience and prayers as we head into the Christmas season
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Post by timholycross on Dec 10, 2019 22:01:32 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me why Joe Reilly is barely getting any playing t Probably because the other guys outplay him in practice. You think Nelson can afford to not like someone?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 10, 2019 22:04:14 GMT -5
I feel for Dave, who has the unenviable task of writing his Christmas poem this year.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 10, 2019 22:07:37 GMT -5
Well, the realists knew we would obviously be a lot worse than last year's 16-17 team given the talent that is now gone. And the players we'd have to start. The only question was if that would make us a 10-win or a 5-win team. I put on the purple glasses, took five shots of grape vodka, and predicted 10.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 10, 2019 22:08:50 GMT -5
We've been adrift evah since the PL went all sports....the 5 or so year window under Willard excepted....never really adapted to winning/being competitive in most sports in the PL....this then "bled" into the hoop program as we see now imo.
Ship has sailed on leaving the PL probably....it's too baked into the school's ethos now. Football, which was what the PL was supposed to be limited to, is really the only exception in terms of present and future success imo...difference being with football is that we are not playing at the highest level as other sports are.
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Post by cfrivals on Dec 10, 2019 22:08:53 GMT -5
Back from the game. Been going to games since 1978, worst performance I have ever seen,(2nd to Northeastern 2019) Talent level and coaching of this team is D3 at best. Do not understand the offensive or defensive game plan. Coach is yelling "no 3's" form the bench so we go 2-13 three point shooting, that is totally atrocious! but you have guys standing around and 1 guy going 1 on 3 with no rebounders following the driving player. Nelson has no confidence in 2 bigs , one barely played in 2nd half. the one who's is playing is totally overmatched .Defense... next point, has been a shambles all year. Players look totally lost out there, even against D3 opponents.Guards should have excelled tonight. Nelson may eventually turn this ship around, but he was totally outcoached tonight and has been on a consistent basis. This is not Marquette! We have been in a 11 year slump! We are again at ROCK BOTTOM!! Too many times and for TOO many SPORTS at this school. There is something wrong that needs to be looked at very deeply. Trying to compete at so many D1 sports with no where near that talent is just a drain on everyone and a complete waste of $$. Hopefully Blossum and the PTB look at tonight very closely!!
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 10, 2019 22:11:25 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me why Joe Reilly is barely getting any playing t Probably because the other guys outplay him in practice. You think Nelson can afford to not like someone? Kathryn Pedi was six for six from behind the arc. She has limits on her skills in other aspects of the game but Coach Mac has her in position to contribute when she is in there. Maybe Coach Nelson can draw up some drives where the ball can be kicked back out to Reilly for an open three as one of the options instead of just the bull drive through traffic and get rejected.
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Post by Ray on Dec 10, 2019 22:14:45 GMT -5
We've been adrift evah since the PL went all sports....the 5 or so year window under Willard excepted....never really adapted to winning/being competitive in most sports in the PL....this then "bled" into the hoop program as we see now imo. Ship has sailed on leaving the PL probably....it's too baked into the school's ethos now. Football, which was what the PL was supposed to be limited to, is really the only exception in terms of present and future success imo...difference being with football is that we are not playing at the highest level as other sports are. Only you could blame the PL for this....
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 10, 2019 22:15:37 GMT -5
We've been adrift evah since the PL went all sports....the 5 or so year window under Willard excepted....never really adapted to winning/being competitive in most sports in the PL....this then "bled" into the hoop program as we see now imo. Ship has sailed on leaving the PL probably....it's too baked into the school's ethos now. Football, which was what the PL was supposed to be limited to, is really the only exception in terms of present and future success imo...difference being with football is that we are not playing at the highest level as other sports are. Acceptance stage. It is what it is.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 10, 2019 22:17:35 GMT -5
Hey, if the 20th or so ranked conference suffers losses like this, then the leagues ranked below ours (there are quite a few) should be getting beaten regularly in these types of games. NOT.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 10, 2019 22:17:50 GMT -5
We've been adrift evah since the PL went all sports....the 5 or so year window under Willard excepted....never really adapted to winning/being competitive in most sports in the PL....this then "bled" into the hoop program as we see now imo. Ship has sailed on leaving the PL probably....it's too baked into the school's ethos now. Football, which was what the PL was supposed to be limited to, is really the only exception in terms of present and future success imo...difference being with football is that we are not playing at the highest level as other sports are. Only you could blame the PL for this.... If you don't think that's part of the problem....I don't know what to tell ya
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Post by HC92 on Dec 10, 2019 22:19:45 GMT -5
Violated some team rule during the second half, perhaps? Probably the one about having to get at least one rebound a game if you’re one of the biggest guys on the floor.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 10, 2019 22:21:15 GMT -5
We've been adrift evah since the PL went all sports....the 5 or so year window under Willard excepted....never really adapted to winning/being competitive in most sports in the PL....this then "bled" into the hoop program as we see now imo. Ship has sailed on leaving the PL probably....it's too baked into the school's ethos now. Football, which was what the PL was supposed to be limited to, is really the only exception in terms of present and future success imo...difference being with football is that we are not playing at the highest level as other sports are. Bingo. We have done well in D-2/3 Womens Hockey and FCS football and WBB when it was still growing into a major sport and HC was taking it more seriously than our PL peers. We also do well in sports like tennis when we play D-3 opponents and struggle against D-1 teams. But we have a new AD and new D-1 level facilities, so improvement is possible.
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Post by lou on Dec 10, 2019 22:21:52 GMT -5
Violated some team rule during the second half, perhaps? Probably the one about having to get at least one rebound a game if you’re one of the biggest guys on the floor. I agree, but the guy who did play barely got any rebounds as well. And he wasn't helping us win this game while he was in there
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Post by Ray on Dec 10, 2019 22:22:24 GMT -5
Only you could blame the PL for this.... If you don't think that's part of the problem....I don't know what to tell ya I'm confused. When we were good, the league was holding us back. Now that we're about to fall through the sub-basement of the league, it's the league's fault for... not holding us up? Do I have that right?
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Post by HC92 on Dec 10, 2019 22:22:39 GMT -5
Glad I didn't make the trip. Sorry for the tickets, '92. Don’t be waiting by your mailbox for a Christmas card this year.
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Post by trimster on Dec 10, 2019 22:25:11 GMT -5
Only you could blame the PL for this.... If you don't think that's part of the problem....I don't know what to tell ya Two of the lowest points in HC hoops history have occurred in the last month. Not good. I thought this team was going to be a pleasant surprise. I guess my cred on this board is shot.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 10, 2019 22:26:35 GMT -5
A little dismayed to see an old Kearney coaching tactic by Nelson: huddle up with assistants for 30 seconds before engaging the players during a timeout. And it’s producing the same results. I was hoping he was asking RJ to go put on a uniform.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 10, 2019 22:28:24 GMT -5
BBC agree the roster stinks but you can't lose to a D-3 team Nelson needs to share in the blame for this. And I thought Northeastern was rock bottom. How do you think Mercer feels tonight. Like a D5 team.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 10, 2019 22:29:57 GMT -5
If you don't think that's part of the problem....I don't know what to tell ya I'm confused. When we were good, the league was holding us back. Now that we're about to fall through the sub-basement of the league, it's the league's fault for... not holding us up? Do I have that right? I've nevah thought we were "good" in the PL...the Willard teams were fun with their success but they weren't close to being as good as HC hoop was prior to and a few years after not joining the Big East.
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Post by MeatWilkerson on Dec 10, 2019 22:46:29 GMT -5
Might this game be karma for the arrogant and self-righteous members of this board who think Holy Cross is superior to everyone? Congrats to Umass Boston great for those young men to get a chance and capitalize on their chance. So many of you on here that just live in the past and I realize it's an older board but goodness maybe this will help you see to love your team but also respect your opponents. If this board is banning people like HC70 and Sarasota, why is this idiot still allowed here? Sounds like you be mad, Brah
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 10, 2019 22:52:13 GMT -5
I feel for Dave, who has the unenviable task of writing his Christmas poem this year. PLEASE PM ME WITH ANY IDEAS!!!
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