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Post by purplehaze on Dec 12, 2019 19:24:47 GMT -5
Report in today’s Hartford Courant that UConn has lost 19 Schollie players (and counting) to transfer since the season ended. With a maximum of 25 players in any incoming class they will probably not be able to reach the 85 limit next season - what a disaster
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 12, 2019 19:28:24 GMT -5
Good. Couldn't happen to a bigger prick than Edsall.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 12, 2019 23:49:13 GMT -5
Better get to the CAA quick.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 13, 2019 2:16:10 GMT -5
They would have more in-state rivals in the NEC.
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Post by rf1 on Dec 13, 2019 10:28:56 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 13, 2019 11:08:16 GMT -5
UMess basketball also not in good shape with Matt McCall.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 13, 2019 11:47:31 GMT -5
UMess basketball also not in good shape with Matt McCall. And it's all on HIM HIM HIM, seeing how he found it necessary to replace his whole staff.
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Post by Tom on Dec 13, 2019 11:50:41 GMT -5
UMess basketball also not in good shape with Matt McCall. Not much size, but UMass looked pretty good Tuesday night. . . . . or were you talking about UMass Amherst
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 13, 2019 11:58:06 GMT -5
Biggest surprise in the article is UMass has moved up from 56 to 24 in their USNWR category of public resesrch universities. How'd that happen?
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 13, 2019 12:00:08 GMT -5
Smarter kids want to attend a school with an FBS football program?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 13, 2019 12:08:43 GMT -5
UMass, UConn Rutgers and Buffalo may form the core of a new FBS league. Add Army and Navy and there you go. Plus, some CAA schools- UNH +? Think outside the box. Sounds exciting, doesn't it? HA! LoveHC New names: UMess, UCan't, Ratgut, and Buffaloed! Creative, but the State of New Hampshire has no sales or income tax with the burden falling on local property tax paid by the homeowner so UNH spending additional millions seems unlikely. Too much of a direct hit to each voter.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 13, 2019 12:09:53 GMT -5
Don't forget the New Hampshire state liquor stores which contribute 20%+ of the state's revenues
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 13, 2019 12:28:33 GMT -5
Every trip to VT included a stopover at a liquor store in NH. Ahh, good times.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 13, 2019 12:39:51 GMT -5
Biggest surprise in the article is UMass has moved up from 56 to 24 in their USNWR category of public resesrch universities. How'd that happen? Not sure what the metrics used were etc. but anecdotally I know they are getting a much more qualified (SAT, GPA etc) student today than they were in their "Zoomass" days of the 70s and 80s.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 13, 2019 12:53:37 GMT -5
Biggest surprise in the article is UMass has moved up from 56 to 24 in their USNWR category of public resesrch universities. How'd that happen? Follow the $$$. USNWRP has to raise funds from somewhere in order to peddle their phony influence around academic circles.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 13, 2019 13:03:49 GMT -5
UMass, UConn Rutgers and Buffalo may form the core of a new FBS league. Add Army and Navy and there you go. Plus, some CAA schools- UNH +? Think outside the box. Sounds exciting, doesn't it? HA! LoveHC New names: UMess, UCan't, Ratgut, and Buffaloed! My hunch is that Rutgers would not leave the cash cow that is the BTN voluntarily. They would have to be kicked out. And you can't just start an FBS football conference out of thin air. There are barriers to entry. Also Army and Navy would never consider joining a regional conference like that. Also, I think that the recent perils of UCONN and UMASS football serve as proof that a New England/Mid-Atlantic based FBS football conference is simply not viable. Outside of the traditional area powers (BC, Syracuse, Penn State, Pitt, Temple, Rutgers, Army, Maryland, Navy), there just isn't enough alumni interest, media coverage, non-alumni fan support or area high school talent to go around. UMASS should go back to the CAA in football NOW. Big-time football couldve worked at UConn but being left out of the ACC expansion party has left them holding the bag with a 40,000 seat taxpayer-funded stadium. FCS is not really an option -- they are stuck hoping that the next round of expansion includes them. They would need ACC to expand to 16, bringing in ND and UCONN for all sports.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 13, 2019 13:07:50 GMT -5
The inevitable byproduct of elite private colleges/universities costing so much is that some families with talented kids are going to look for good alternatives.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 13, 2019 14:02:33 GMT -5
No, but a mess is a mess, and UMass seems to be in denial about theirs.
I remember when the media was beating the FBS drum in the early 2000s. If the school was closer to Boston or had a big stadium that wan't getting fully utilized (like Harvard or Yale), the idea had a chance.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 13, 2019 14:26:49 GMT -5
No, but a mess is a mess, and UMass seems to be in denial about theirs. I remember when the media was beating the FBS drum in the early 2000s. If the school was closer to Boston or had a big stadium that wan't getting fully utilized (like Harvard or Yale), the idea had a chance. Well as we learned this past Tuesday, they DO have a campus in Boston, ha. They have no business in FBS. Gillette Stadium is 2 and a half hours from campus. Would be like Holy Cross using Yankee Stadium as our home field. The flagship UMASS campus definitely should've been placed in a more central location. Worcester County actually would've been perfect. Another state school that was geographically habdcuffed is the University of Maine. That school should have been built in Portland. That city would be a solid college sports town. Orono too far.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 13, 2019 14:32:30 GMT -5
Agreed...even with hoop, their Amherst location hurts attendance from what has to be a mostly EMass alumni base. Many people in EMass think going to Wisstah is a haul....Amherst might as well be in Ohio to many here . I don't see either coming down (ala U Idaho) to the FCS-level anytime soon...too much $$$, pride, ego has been spent in both places.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 13, 2019 14:40:14 GMT -5
No, but a mess is a mess, and UMass seems to be in denial about theirs. I remember when the media was beating the FBS drum in the early 2000s. If the school was closer to Boston or had a big stadium that wan't getting fully utilized (like Harvard or Yale), the idea had a chance. Well as we learned this past Tuesday, they DO have a campus in Boston, ha. They have no business in FBS. Gillette Stadium is 2 and a half hours from campus. Would be like Holy Cross using Yankee Stadium as our home field. The flagship UMASS campus definitely should've been placed in a more central location. Worcester County actually would've been perfect. Another state school that was geographically habdcuffed is the University of Maine. That school should have been built in Portland. That city would be a solid college sports town. Orono too far. UMass-Boston actually looks pretty good these days...still a very urban looking school (it's right next to the JFK library, BC High for those unfamiliar) but they have put in a lot of dorms, new buildings etc. I don't know the full history of UMass-Amherst...like many state/land-grant schools, it was once an agriculture school (Mass Aggie)...my guess is that the Statehouse thought Western Mass was more of an appropriate location...and probably a sop to the politicians out there at the time no doubt. Fairly certain UMass-Med was put in Woo as a political compromise between Boston and Springfield...
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Post by HC92 on Dec 13, 2019 14:45:20 GMT -5
Biggest surprise in the article is UMass has moved up from 56 to 24 in their USNWR category of public resesrch universities. How'd that happen? Only one where you can wear a pocket protector and also be on the football team?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 13, 2019 15:14:46 GMT -5
UConn and UMass really should start an annual home AND away two game series for mutual survival while they are both stuck in this Neverland of FBS Indies.
Very atypical for FB, but would fill two Saturdays with low travel expenses, decent crowds and competitive play.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 13, 2019 15:25:57 GMT -5
UConn and UMass really should start an annual home AND away two game series for mutual survival while they are both stuck in this Neverland of FBS Indies. Very atypical for FB, but would fill two Saturdays with low travel expenses, decent crowds and competitive play. Definitely not an outrageous suggestion. Liberty and New Mexico State played home-and-homes in 2018 and 2019 just to fill out 12 games.
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Post by CHC8485 on Dec 13, 2019 16:38:38 GMT -5
Biggest surprise in the article is UMass has moved up from 56 to 24 in their USNWR category of public resesrch universities. How'd that happen? Look at the category. PUBLIC research universities. Here's the list. I'm more surprised that at some point in, presumably, the recent past, they were 56th, which currently would place them 1 behind SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry and in the range of UNH & UVM. www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public
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