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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 15, 2019 22:04:51 GMT -5
Posted in this thread because it includes discussion about "college football".
Anyway, I created a bracket for a hypothetical FBS Football Playoff. Would this format be more or less exciting than the current bowl system?
Florida Atlantic @ Florida => 8) Wisconsin
Miami (Ohio) @ Penn State => 7) Baylor
Navy** @ Auburn => 6) Oregon
Cincinnati @ Utah => 5) Georgia
Appalachian State @ Alabama => 4) Oklahoma
Boise State @ Michigan => 3) Clemson
Minnesota @ Notre Dame => 2) Ohio State
Memphis @ Iowa => 1) LSU
** Note I build this bracket using the CFP rankings. As of the last set of rankings Navy is one spot behind USC but I am making the assumption 10-2 Navy would have jumped 8-4 USC for the last at-large spot in the bracket after the win over Army. This bracket was also made to accommodate no rematches from regular season in Rounds of 24 and 16.
I also didn't put the seed numbers next to them but I more or less seeded out teams 9-24 based on CFP rankings with a couple of switch ups to keep the PSU-Miami & UF-FAU games local and to have Navy go to Auburn instead of Utah to avoid a Utah-Oregon potential rematch.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 15, 2019 22:25:43 GMT -5
I see 3 games, Cinci, ND and Memphis that would be interesting games. Other 5 would be routs; although in the case of App State/Bama the over/under would be around 90. App can light it up and Bamas defense is not very good.
I like 8 myself. One spot guaranteed for one of the little guys, 5 for the each P5 champion and 2 other at larges.
Of course it presumes D1 football won't split up even more when they start having to pay kids
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 15, 2019 22:37:11 GMT -5
Would be more exciting, but absolutely zero shot of it happening given a potential 18 game season, which it could be, if one of non-bye squads made the title game.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 15, 2019 23:44:41 GMT -5
Would be more exciting, but absolutely zero shot of it happening given a potential 18 game season, which it could be, if one of non-bye squads made the title game. I actually thought about that. And you're right 18 games is a TON. In order to shave the season down a bit, you'd either have to go back to an 11-game schedule or get rid of conference championship games. Definitely a tough sell to the TV networks and the big boys on both counts. FWIW, Holy Cross would have played 17 games had we made it to the FCS Championship this year.... Which leads my to my next trivia question: If North Dakota State wins their home game against Montana State on Sunday, they will enter the National Championship Game with the chance to become the first Division I (FBS or FCS) school to go 16-0. Who is the only Division I school in modern history ever to start a season 15-0 and enter a final game with a chance to go 16-0? |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 16, 2019 0:01:13 GMT -5
Colgate?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 16, 2019 7:14:29 GMT -5
SOV got it. 2003 Colgate is the only team in modern Division I history to play a game in which they had a shot at their 16th win of the season. It has been done at the Division II level a couple years back when Ferris State lost in the championship game, having entered with a 15-0 record.
However, no one in any division has ever WON 16 games, not counting U. Chicago and Yale teams from the 19th century. That Chicago team was coached by Amos Alonzo Stagg, who the DIII National Championship Game is named for.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 16, 2019 10:23:48 GMT -5
/\ Know the story well. Colgate ran the table on a pretty weak string of opponents compared to Pitt's schedule . Pitt beat Army, Notre Dame, Penn, and Stanford (amongst others) and played Nebraska and Ohio State to 0-0 ties as part of their unbeaten record prior to the Rose Bowl selection.
But in Colgate football lore it remains quite a snub (and finishing a season undefeated, untied, and unscored upon is quite an accomplishment in its own right...plus Pitt was subsequently trounced in the Rose Bowl by USC FWIW)
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 16, 2019 11:14:37 GMT -5
Before the Big Ten tie-in did the Rose Bowl just take the best team in the East?
I know Duke played in it the season they were unscored upon. Game was played at Duke because we were worried Japanese might try to attack the West Coast right after Pearl Harbor.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 16, 2019 11:40:35 GMT -5
I believe so...with regard to Rose Bowl...possibly a team east of the Mississippi...I'd have to look it up
It seems that there are only a handful of the same programs at both the FBS and FCS with a realistic shot at a title every year...maybe it's inherent in the system somehow.
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Post by Chu Chu on Dec 16, 2019 13:40:31 GMT -5
A couple of random thoughts:
I'm surprised that Alabama, Auburn or LSU have not won 16 games.
Also, wouldn't it be cool if the Div 1 FCS Champ was included in a FBS playoff?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 16, 2019 13:53:32 GMT -5
A couple of random thoughts: I'm surprised that Alabama, Auburn or LSU have not won 16 games.Also, wouldn't it be cool if the Div 1 FCS Champ was included in a FBS playoff? No FBS team has even played 16 games in a season to my knowledge. Clemson did go 15-0 during one of their recent title runs, can't remember if it was last year. In order for 16-0 to happen, would need to be the following scenario until playoff eventually expands: 1) A 13-0 regular season finish, which could only happen if that school got the extra game you're granted for scheduling a game at Hawaii. 2) Win conference title game to go to 14-0 3) Sweep the CFP to finish 16-0 |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 16, 2019 14:10:46 GMT -5
Also, wouldn't it be cool if the Div 1 FCS Champ was included in a FBS playoff? This wouldn’t be fun for anyone. |
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