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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 9, 2020 19:37:51 GMT -5
How many fans would NDSU bring to a bowl game? How many ticket sales could they guarantee?What would theTV ratings be for a bowl game with FDSU? Obviously, ND is an extremely small state. Is there any national interest in NDSU football? Does anyone outside of the region care about NDSU football? Do most Americans even know the location of ND? It is a money game and no more. It is quite likely that NDSU football is doomed to be left at the national altar of irrelevance. LoveHC A ton until they got jaded of low-end bowl games in Detroit, Mobile, Tucson or Albuquerque. TV ratings would be no different than for any other random pre-XMAS December or post-New Years Jaunary bowl game. It's very simple. NDSU isn't FBS because they haven't been invited to a conference. From what I've observed on AGS, their fan base isn't exactly dying for them to make the move either. They seem to enjoy what they have now. JMU on the other hand, appears to have a large contingent foaming at the mouth for a move to CUSA or Sun Belt. JMU moving up to either of those leagues makes more sense than NDSU joining the MAC.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 10, 2020 11:35:17 GMT -5
Actually, what JMU is aspiring to is taking UConn's place in the AAC. With a stadium that could probably be expanded to 35-40K (and there's nothing wrong with it now) and a new 10,000 seat arena opening up next season, they certainly can make a strong case.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 10, 2020 14:18:01 GMT -5
NDSU really is an odd (if very successful) spot....there are some signs of boredom from looking at their board...not sure what they will end up doing moving forward.
5dimes is all ovah the place on a line for this one..... NDSU -6.5 to JMU -1.5
Hard to go against history....I'll go NDSU 24-17
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Post by CHC8485 on Jan 10, 2020 15:54:00 GMT -5
Geez. Almost forgot about this. What's it been, 3 weeks since the semifinals. Guess I'll go with North Dakota by 7 and because hc87 took the score he did, I'll go a little different 23-16.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 10, 2020 20:09:12 GMT -5
Actually, what JMU is aspiring to is taking UConn's place in the AAC. With a stadium that could probably be expanded to 35-40K (and there's nothing wrong with it now) and a new 10,000 seat arena opening up next season, they certainly can make a strong case. There is ZERO CHANCE that JMU would get that spot in the AAC.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 10, 2020 22:00:36 GMT -5
Actually, what JMU is aspiring to is taking UConn's place in the AAC. With a stadium that could probably be expanded to 35-40K (and there's nothing wrong with it now) and a new 10,000 seat arena opening up next season, they certainly can make a strong case. There is ZERO CHANCE that JMU would get that spot in the AAC. Back up "ZERO CHANCE" with a reason why you say so.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 10, 2020 22:12:22 GMT -5
The grass isn’t always greener. Would you rather be a top 5 FCS team every year or a mid-tier FBS team in a league no one cares about with the big reward at the end of the season being to play in a Christmas Eve bowl game no one cares about? I’ll take what NDSU and JMU have right now.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 10, 2020 23:59:06 GMT -5
NDSU.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 11, 2020 9:24:42 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 11, 2020 9:40:45 GMT -5
I just checked the weather and it will be 31 degrees in Hell, Michigan on Sunday. Guess it'll be too late to have a reporter cover the game. Maybe next year?
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Post by moose1970 on Jan 11, 2020 12:42:55 GMT -5
The grass isn’t always greener. Would you rather be a top 5 FCS team every year or a mid-tier FBS team in a league no one cares about with the big reward at the end of the season being to play in a Christmas Eve bowl game no one cares about? I’ll take what NDSU and JMU have right now. yes, but i would like to see more competition in the FCS playoffs. if a team wins the FCS championship say 3 years in a row then they must sit out the FCS playoffs the following year. they could be eligible for a FBS bowl bid the 4th year and return to FCS status after that or remain FBS. just a thought.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 11, 2020 13:07:23 GMT -5
Interesting idea, Moose.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 11, 2020 13:17:06 GMT -5
21-10 NDSU late 2nd Q....on ABC
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 11, 2020 15:43:08 GMT -5
Bison win their 8th out of 9. Basically semantics at this point.
And their QB is a freshman.
Can we segue into some Duffner-era reminiscing? Every game basically ovah by halftime.
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Post by deep Purple on Jan 11, 2020 16:10:55 GMT -5
Final 28-20. JMU had 1st and goal on the 2 yard line with 8 seconds left and their qb threw an int.
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Post by sittingbull on Jan 11, 2020 16:34:19 GMT -5
There is ZERO CHANCE that JMU would get that spot in the AAC. Back up "ZERO CHANCE" with a reason why you say so. I'll play. Because the AAC positions themselves as "P6" (their teams run on the field with P6 flags) implying they are on par as a power conference. That's their mentality. The last thing they are going to do is fill a slot with an FCS team from Harrisonburg Va. They will take the best available, biggest name out there, to refill. Could be Army, Rice - anyone than an FCS school. JMUs options - should they want - are CUSA, Sun Belt or MAC. The biggest problem at JMU is they are cash poor. They have a large growing alumni base but it's not affluent. They rely on student fees. They are also watching the disaster taking place at ODU which is now hemmoragjng money after sacrificing their basketball program to compete in a league with schools no one in the Virginia are familiar or care - with travel in three time zones.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 11, 2020 16:38:57 GMT -5
Rice? You're joking I hope.
JMU would beat Rice in FB 7 out of 10 games.
The only value Rice would ever bring is in baseball, and that's not a revenue sport.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 16:43:21 GMT -5
I think they would send someone if HC or UML or Merrimack made it to the title game, or even Bryant or URI since they are now making an all out effort to cover RI. I fuzzily remember the Globe and Boston media went ape$h!t when BU football made it to some type of Post season game when Dan Allen was the coach.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 16:46:07 GMT -5
Back up "ZERO CHANCE" with a reason why you say so. I'll play. Because the AAC positions themselves as "P6" (their teams run on the field with P6 flags) implying they are on par as a power conference. That's their mentality. The last thing they are going to do is fill a slot with an FCS team from Harrisonburg Va. They will take the best available, biggest name out there, to refill. Could be Army, Rice - anyone than an FCS school. JMUs options - should they want - are CUSA, Sun Belt or MAC. The biggest problem at JMU is they are cash poor. They have a large growing alumni base but it's not affluent. They rely on student fees. They are also watching the disaster taking place at ODU which is now hemmoragjng money after sacrificing their basketball program to compete in a league with schools no one in the Virginia are familiar or care - with travel in three time zones. ODU shouldn't have hired that consultant from UConn.😏
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 16:50:19 GMT -5
Rice? You're joking I hope. JMU would beat Rice in FB 7 out of 10 games. The only value Rice would ever bring is in baseball, and that's not a revenue sport. "Why does Rice play Texas? Because it is hard." -JFK 9-12-62
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Post by sittingbull on Jan 11, 2020 16:51:39 GMT -5
Rice? You're joking I hope. JMU would beat Rice in FB 7 out of 10 games. The only value Rice would ever bring is in baseball, and that's not a revenue sport. Joking? Rice has a national name, FBS tradition and is in Houston, one of the largest metros in the country. Yet somehow you think schools like SMU, Tulane, Navy, Tulsa and Houston are going to prefer James Madison? Give me a break.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 11, 2020 17:12:37 GMT -5
Give you a break? Guarantee this is the first time EVER "National name" and "1A tradition" has been written about Rice FB, and hardly anyone in Houston gives a rat's ass about about Rice, and they're definitely not tuning in to see them play on Saturday's when UT, A&M, Baylor, Houston, or even SMU are on, so try another angle.
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Post by Chu Chu on Jan 11, 2020 17:29:37 GMT -5
Final 28-20. JMU had 1st and goal on the 2 yard line with 8 seconds left and their qb threw an int. It was a great game, and I noticed a lot of green and yellow in the stadium. NDSU obviously traveled well and had a lot of very visible fan support. JMU had their chances and played well, but the Bison were the better team!
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Post by timholycross on Jan 11, 2020 17:31:11 GMT -5
As a parent of a student, with a little more interest in the place than most of you; I hope they stay where they are versus the unholy trinity of the Sun Belt, MAC and CUSA.
The AAC thing is something I read. Maybe they wouldn't be wanted, true.
As far as the game went, JMU IMHO blew it. Settled for field goals in the red zone (2 out of 3, the third hit the upright). Committed a face mask on second and 20 with the qb being tackled for no gain (followed by a drive for a touchdown). Then, the coup de grace, a qb scramble for a 47 yard touchdown on 3rd and 23.
Surprised ND State was as ground oriented as they were.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 11, 2020 17:49:17 GMT -5
Final 28-20. JMU had 1st and goal on the 2 yard line with 8 seconds left and their qb threw an int. It was a great game, and I noticed a lot of green and yellow in the stadium. NDSU obviously traveled well and had a lot of very visible fan support. JMU had their chances and played well, but the Bison were the better team! It’s a lot easier to travel to Frisco, TX when you can plan it a year in advance. It’s like being a UConn women’s b-ball fan. A lot of them just book their Final Four trips before the season starts.
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