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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2020 19:50:05 GMT -5
I hope so...and he is moving on having been part of our winning staff of coaches.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 3, 2020 19:56:35 GMT -5
It is a step up to the CAA for Murphy and a reflection on his job performance. Kudos to him.
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Post by inhocsigno on Jan 3, 2020 20:10:14 GMT -5
Writing was on the wall (as clear as it was on this board) - he is terrible and URI just saved us another year of awful play calling. Good riddance.
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Post by inhocsigno on Jan 3, 2020 20:24:34 GMT -5
Writing was on the wall (as clear as it was on this board) - he is terrible and URI just saved us another year of awful play calling. Good riddance. HA! I know you are kidding. Good job. Serious as a heart attack. He was terrible and I am glad he is gone.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 3, 2020 20:28:31 GMT -5
I was one of those who questioned the wisdom of some of the offensive plays called. But that said, I don't pretend to have the background or expertise to know what could/should have been called instead.
I also don't know what constraints/restraints were factored into the plays called. Were certain plays called because of the limitations of certain players that might have been legitimate options were different players with different skillsets available? While the head coach has ultimate authority/control of all aspects of the team, was Chesney calling the shots or did Murphy have free reign? Some head coaches are better and more expansive in delegating, others hold all the cards.
My impression, that's all it is, no inside knowledge, is the TG was more controlling and BC more of a delegator.
Whatever the case, good luck at URI, Coach Murphy.
If we see the same kind of play calling next season, we'll know any issues people had on plays called were not coming from Murphy.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 3, 2020 20:37:57 GMT -5
For their next life is filled with plenty of excitement and touchdowns to spare
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 3, 2020 20:54:19 GMT -5
Also, his move up to the CAA is a reflection on the judgements of some. The irony is sweet. LoveHC URI was 2-10 last year, the coach is 15-53 in his tenure and, in searching around on Football Scoop, it appears was forced to clear out a bunch of assistants, including his son who was their last OC. It doesn’t even look like they had a press release for signings in the early period this year. Leaving HC coming off a PLC and two great recruiting classes for a job with this much uncertainty is not a step up. This is a golden opportunity for Chesney to capitalize on the recent success and balance out what was a previously a drastic drop-off from D. Coordinator to OC.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 3, 2020 21:11:50 GMT -5
Life is filled with opportunities for all parties including Murphy
this is not meant to offend anybody but to help find a more positive approach moving forward
Accept what is Let go of what was Have faith in what will be
And then do something where you can make a difference and impact the change you desire
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Post by hc2020 on Jan 3, 2020 23:16:08 GMT -5
Hopefully we can identify a solid replacement in short order so that we can have some stability on the offensive side of the ball. We have some excellent players at WR and talented recruits at that position coming on board with this recruiting class. We need to use those assets wisely. Our DC (Scott James) is a solid coach and that side of the ball is in good hands so long as he remains in place.
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Post by Ray on Jan 3, 2020 23:27:09 GMT -5
Leaving HC coming off a PLC and two great recruiting classes for a job with this much uncertainty is not a step up. It's almost certainly a step up financially.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 4, 2020 0:01:30 GMT -5
Leaving HC coming off a PLC and two great recruiting classes for a job with this much uncertainty is not a step up. It's almost certainly a step up financially. Don’t know about that. The URI coach was receiving a base salary of $175K. What does a coordinator receive at URI? 90-100? Just speculation, but it would not surprise me if Chesney said to Murphy: “You should look for another job.”
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 4, 2020 0:06:23 GMT -5
Would it enhance the long term success of the program to promote a qualified assistant coach if we have one?
Sorry to keep referencing the Patriots, but their personnel often (but not always) stays for 10-15 years, gradually moving up and then only moving out for a head coach or GM position elsewhere.
At HC, budgetary restraints seem to push people out if they want to move up. Perhaps promoting from within can be done a little more cheaply since the coach doesn't have to move or disrupt his life and that could finance a little better retention and continuity.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 4, 2020 1:51:04 GMT -5
Leaving HC coming off a PLC and two great recruiting classes for a job with this much uncertainty is not a step up. It's almost certainly a step up financially. URI is the worst CAA program throughout history and always underfunded
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Post by hcpride on Jan 4, 2020 6:51:38 GMT -5
It's almost certainly a step up financially. URI is the worst CAA program throughout history and always underfunded Those two notions (URI possibly being a step up from HC pay-wise and URI a CAA cellar dweller in terms of football and pay ) may not be mutually exclusive. Beyond that , In the recent (last 5-10 years) world of FCS football, I could certainly see the argument that a move from PL OC to CAA OC is a step up. Football-wise. Not withstanding the fact that HC was the PL Champ this year and URI tends to be at or near the bottom of the CAA. No doubt if URI improves their record the next year or two, Murphy’s resume will likewise improve. (Remember, our W-L record also improved under Murphy). I’ve seen quite s few URI games and there is talent on the roster (they played some very close CAA games this September).
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Post by jsherman on Jan 4, 2020 7:58:40 GMT -5
Murphy didn’t have enough freedom. A lot of people question his play calling. That said the next guy will have the same restraints. Ches calls the shots. Hopefully get the next hire soon as I’m sure they will want some input on a transfer if that’s the route they go. Truth.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 4, 2020 8:35:10 GMT -5
If our OC is attractive enough to be hired away by a CAA team after just two good (by recent HC standards) seasons, it is certainly not a stretch to think our head coach might be picked up by a mid or even upper CAA team if we have a third good (7-ish win) season.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 4, 2020 9:15:51 GMT -5
Agree there is a strong possibility Chesney appoints someone from the current staff to OC and brings in someone for the other role and moves on....
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Post by crossbball13 on Jan 4, 2020 9:35:07 GMT -5
URI is the worst CAA program throughout history and always underfunded Those two notions (URI possibly being a step up from HC pay-wise and URI a CAA cellar dweller in terms of football and pay ) may not be mutually exclusive. Beyond that , In the recent (last 5-10 years) world of FCS football, I could certainly see the argument that a move from PL OC to CAA OC is a step up. Football-wise. Not withstanding the fact that HC was the PL Champ this year and URI tends to be at or near the bottom of the CAA. No doubt if URI improves their record the next year or two, Murphy’s resume will likewise improve. (Remember, our W-L record also improved under Murphy). I’ve seen quite s few URI games and there is talent on the roster (they played some very close CAA games this September). Staying on a championship team with an up and coming coach that an of OC could effectively “latch onto” vs going to get paid equal (seemingly less?) money at a CAA team in turmoil, whose hiring head coach may not be around in 1 year’s time to re-hire said OC is, in my opinion, a step down. One would only make that move if someone forced one’s hand. Absolutely no bias here. What would you do? Logic says that staying at HC is the better move from a financial stability and career trajectory standpoint. Would you latch yourself onto Chesney or 15-53 Jim Fleming?
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 4, 2020 9:41:50 GMT -5
1. The OC has moved on 2. Why he did so is really not important. 3. The next move is up to Coach Chesney. 4. I doubt he looks at CROSSPORTS in determining what to do next. 5. The Holy Cross oc post would seem to be a good one with a building (successful) program.
Might it be time to simply wish Coach Murphy well (as many have already done) and to stop the now unnecessary attacks and insults to a former HC Coach?
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Post by deep Purple on Jan 4, 2020 9:58:14 GMT -5
Those two notions (URI possibly being a step up from HC pay-wise and URI a CAA cellar dweller in terms of football and pay ) may not be mutually exclusive. Beyond that , In the recent (last 5-10 years) world of FCS football, I could certainly see the argument that a move from PL OC to CAA OC is a step up. Football-wise. Not withstanding the fact that HC was the PL Champ this year and URI tends to be at or near the bottom of the CAA. No doubt if URI improves their record the next year or two, Murphy’s resume will likewise improve. (Remember, our W-L record also improved under Murphy). I’ve seen quite s few URI games and there is talent on the roster (they played some very close CAA games this September). Staying on a championship team with an up and coming coach that an of OC could effectively “latch onto” vs going to get paid equal (seemingly less?) money at a CAA team in turmoil, whose hiring head coach may not be around in 1 year’s time to re-hire said OC is, in my opinion, a step down. One would only make that move if someone forced one’s hand. Absolutely no bias here. What would you do? Logic says that staying at HC is the better move from a financial stability and career trajectory standpoint. Would you latch yourself onto Chesney or 15-53 Jim Fleming? Fleming took over an atrocious program, one of the worst in division 1 football history and they have a CAA schedule. They are now a team that opponents respect. If HC had played their schedule this past year they may have won three games.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 4, 2020 10:04:38 GMT -5
Staying on a championship team with an up and coming coach that an of OC could effectively “latch onto” vs going to get paid equal (seemingly less?) money at a CAA team in turmoil, whose hiring head coach may not be around in 1 year’s time to re-hire said OC is, in my opinion, a step down. One would only make that move if someone forced one’s hand. Absolutely no bias here. What would you do? Logic says that staying at HC is the better move from a financial stability and career trajectory standpoint. Would you latch yourself onto Chesney or 15-53 Jim Fleming? Respectfully, It is easy to come to your conclusion when you have created your facts whole cloth to lead to your conclusion. The one undisputable fact is that URI, a CAA program has hired Coach Murphy. That is the only thing that you and I know. All the rest is pure speculation based on previously held opinions. It does carry little weight. Peace. LoveHC Crossball13's first point regarding leaving Chesney's staff as OC to join Fleming's staff as OC is well taken. (Leaving aside any PL v CAA football comparison.) Optimally (career-wise) the OC sticks with Chesney for another winning season and together they move on to bigger and better things (or the OC is recognized as a key cog in HC's three-year turnaround and either stays behind as the new head coach or the OC becomes a head coach elsewhere in lower FCS). Sub-optimally the OC stays with Chesney and things turn south (losing season) and nobody else wants him. As was the case with TG near the end, a losing program such as URI with a coach quite possibly on the way out has some difficulty bringing in top assistant talent (Crossball13's second good point). But, a point in Murphy's professional development favor is that URI can win a few CAA games and show improvement (just as HC showed improvement with Murphy as OC). I've got to point out again that URI was not that far away from decent last year - they lost 5 CAA games by 8 points or less and had some real talent. I saw the triple OT loss to Delaware and the wacky last-second loss to SBU. And it is a PL to CAA OC move... All other points aside, I can see why Murphy might find the move a smart one (move up now as a winning OC from the PL to CAA) but I can also see how staying with Chesney might work out well for him also. This is without knowing anything else about the situation.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 4, 2020 10:19:09 GMT -5
A lot of the stuff here is opinion which I get.
Murphy left on his own. Fact. Chesney didn’t tell him to look for a job. Fact.
URI paying more. Fact.
Maybe it’s a good thing for a lot on this board. Maybe it will be a bad thing. I have no clue. What I know are the facts above.
Just like there was this idea HC chose Considine first. Not true. Perry was first choice who decided on his own to go to Brown.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 4, 2020 10:24:06 GMT -5
I hope this is a move that is mutually beneficial for both parties.
I’m excited about the prospects of a new guy leading the offense. This should be a pretty attractive job. Interested to see if Chesney stays in house or not. If it’s out of house, just hope no more position coaches from D3 schools.
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Post by joe on Jan 4, 2020 10:42:17 GMT -5
As always it comes down to money. These guys get paid crap to begin with so any chance to earn more for one’s family is not surprising.
The most important question for HC is how to land the best possible coaches per dollar spent. Obviously being a championship program helps.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 4, 2020 10:52:24 GMT -5
Personally I know the OC matters but if you have the right talent it will overcome the rest.
Example - Ciaccio has three coordinators in three years. His record as starting QB - 30-2-1. His senior year (my soph) they went 11-0 because we had him, Fuller, Roman, etc
I’m not saying it doesn’t matter because the OC does. But if the talent is there it will generally make up for a lot.
They are assembling a ton of talent on O. I know I know. You have to have the OC use it properly.
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