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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 11, 2020 16:31:51 GMT -5
Too many turnovers by Lowder , but at least it was his first game over 30 minutes in what seven weeks? I assume we do this---but would be interesting to go over the whole tape with him and review every play to see if the turnovers are due to him trying to get too creative, making sloppy passes, travelling, etc--pin down the causes to help him learn. He is certainly a tremendous talent over all in my opinion.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 11, 2020 16:35:29 GMT -5
Moments of nice passing, but it led to some awful shooting. 5 straight losses to Bucknell. Those 22 turnovers (7 by DL alone) were bad. Butler (17 pts and 2 reb in 33 min) and Niego (11 pts and 10 rebounds in 37 min) had good games. Butler had 5 turnovers and Niego had 1. The 21 pts. by Lowder were a sign he is getting on track with his shooting. Wonder if it makes sense to make AB the full time PG and have DL play the 2. Absolutely not. Austin is not a point guard. Druzi’s many turnovers today were an aberration
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 11, 2020 16:45:09 GMT -5
I hope you are correct.
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Post by trimster on Jan 11, 2020 17:22:36 GMT -5
I think at this point our biggest hope is to see the team develop some type of identity that can carry over to next year. It would be nice if it were a tough defensive identity but I just don’t see that happening.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 11, 2020 17:28:40 GMT -5
The team is now clearly trying to develop something to take them into next year (with a stop-over in the PL tournament). I hope to focus on the improvements we will see individually and in the team as a whole.
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Post by DiMarz on Jan 11, 2020 17:31:09 GMT -5
Moments of nice passing, but it led to some awful shooting. 5 straight losses to Bucknell. Those 22 turnovers (7 by DL alone) were bad. Butler (17 pts and 2 reb in 33 min) and Niego (11 pts and 10 rebounds in 37 min) had good games. Butler had 5 turnovers and Niego had 1. The 21 pts. by Lowder were a sign he is getting on track with his shooting. Wonder if it makes sense to make AB the full time PG and have DL play the 2. Would probably mean fewer minutes for Hargis and Wade Keep Lowder at the point, live with his growing pains..Austin is much better at the 2
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Post by hchoops on Jan 11, 2020 17:48:00 GMT -5
Wonder if it makes sense to make AB the full time PG and have DL play the 2. Would probably mean fewer minutes for Hargis and Wade Keep Lowder at the point, live with his growing pains..Austin is much better at the 2 Or the 3 when Wade is at the 2.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 11, 2020 18:49:00 GMT -5
Lowder at the point for sure. Team loses a lot with Austin there. Lowder's turnovers seem to be mostly just bad (freshman?) judgement which is somewhat excusable. Austin's turnovers, less so. Joe P definitely trying too hard and pressing to make something happen out of nothing. Sad part was, Bucknell is really not that good either. It's the kind of team that I could see us knocking off in the PL tournament as our guys gain experience.
Was very happy to see us put a press on for a brief period which came unexpectedly for the Bison and created a couple of turnovers.
I cringe when CLS in as it is like playing 4 on 5. MH not doing much better, the occasional rebound, but neither of them are shooting even when open. If they don't have the red light from Nelson, it sure is blinking yellow.
Good news is that Matt is blocking shots and Connor seems to hitting his stride and contributing.
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Post by possum on Jan 12, 2020 7:03:20 GMT -5
Pretty much a lost week in Pennsylvania, two non competitive losses and not many positive steps forward as a team. Faw and Niego played pretty well in the two games but other than them no one else was bette than expected. Lowder scored a lot of points yesterday but had a terrible floor game with way too many turnovers. He's very talented on the offensive end but a little too much French pastry at times that results in dribbling himself into trouble and creating turnovers. Need to continue playing him big minutes as we desperately need his offense and hopefully he'll learn from his mistakes. Butler had a couple of tough games although he ended up scoring 17 points yesterday 11 came in the last 6 minutes after the outcome of the game had been decided. He also had way too many turnovers and his rebounds were down. Need to end the point guard experiment and get him back to his natural position. It seems the league has already come up with a plan to defend Pridgen. His one on one drives to the hoop have by and large not been effective and have resulted in numerous turnovers. The offense needs to devise a way to get him the ball on the low post so he can go to work closer to the basket I hope Wade is more than just a spot up shooter but to date he has not shown any diversity to his game. Hargis seems to have disappeared the last 3 or 4 games after showing some promise earlier in the year. Don't know what the story is with Copeland but his durability has been a big issue throughout his career. Other than Colgate the league is very mediocre and there are a lot of wins to be had particularly at home but we'll have to play much better than we did this week.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Jan 12, 2020 7:30:46 GMT -5
Spot on analysis.
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Post by trimster on Jan 12, 2020 8:25:43 GMT -5
Too many turnovers by Lowder , but at least it was his first game over 30 minutes in what seven weeks? I assume we do this---but would be interesting to go over the whole tape with him and review every play to see if the turnovers are due to him trying to get too creative, making sloppy passes, travelling, etc--pin down the causes to help him learn. He is certainly a tremendous talent over all in my opinion. I think Lowder is really a shooting guard or off guard trapped in a point guard’s body. Someone suggested playing him more as a 2 guard. Might be worth a look. It might work if we had a tall point guard who could guard the other team’s off guard on defense and Lowder could guard the other team’s point guard in Nelson’s man to man. Basically I don’t think Lowder has a point guard mentality.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 12, 2020 8:45:01 GMT -5
I believe that Drew has the ability to be more of a passer, but we obviously need him to score. He is the only player who can create shots for others and himself, but we do not have players who can regularly finish when he does give them scoring passes(= passes which should be converted into hoops ) Thus he needs to shoot often to give us the best chance to score.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 12, 2020 8:59:24 GMT -5
In addition to others missing opportunities to finish, there could be more movement by others whenDrew and Pridgen have the ball
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 12, 2020 10:06:50 GMT -5
Joe Pridgen has had three tough games in a row offensively--if you believe in KenPom's "O-Rating": 79 then 68 then 56. His 11-24 shooting in those three games isn't bad, but it's not as high a % as he had in prior games. He was 4-12 on free throws due to the horrendous 2-12 versus Navy. He had 14 rebounds and 4 assists, but 13 turnovers.
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Post by lou on Jan 12, 2020 10:19:38 GMT -5
I believe that Drew has the ability to be more of a passer, but we obviously need him to score. He is the only player who can create shots for others and himself, but we do not have players who can regularly finish when he does give them scoring passes(= passes which should be converted into hoops ) Thus he needs to shoot often to give us the best chance to score. He had nearly a no-look pass which sailed right past Niego in the second half. It was either a very bad pass or Niego should have been ready for it and anticipated, since he was pretty much open under the basket. These kinds of passes are new to this team but it's basketball, be ready to catch them. At one point Lowder passed to Wade's back, weren't we all taught to watch the ball at all times
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2020 10:21:43 GMT -5
To your last question...yes!
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Post by efg72 on Jan 12, 2020 10:25:25 GMT -5
I believe that Drew has the ability to be more of a passer, but we obviously need him to score. He is the only player who can create shots for others and himself, but we do not have players who can regularly finish when he does give them scoring passes(= passes which should be converted into hoops ) Thus he needs to shoot often to give us the best chance to score. He had nearly a no-look pass which sailed right past Niego in the second half. It was either a very bad pass or Niego should have been ready for it and anticipated, since he was pretty much open under the basket. These kinds of passes are new to this team but it's basketball, be ready to catch them. At one point Lowder passed to Wade's back, weren't we all taught to watch the ball at all times Perhaps a clarification We were taught to be prepared to receive the ball at all times. Watching the ball leads to a lack of movement and makes you very easy to defend.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2020 10:29:37 GMT -5
Perhaps "being aware" of the ball's location is a bit better than actually "watching" it. Being prepared to receive the ball is, IIRC, taught to almost every player and team.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 12, 2020 11:26:30 GMT -5
I believe that Drew has the ability to be more of a passer, but we obviously need him to score. He is the only player who can create shots for others and himself, but we do not have players who can regularly finish when he does give them scoring passes(= passes which should be converted into hoops ) Thus he needs to shoot often to give us the best chance to score. He had nearly a no-look pass which sailed right past Niego in the second half. It was either a very bad pass or Niego should have been ready for it and anticipated, since he was pretty much open under the basket. These kinds of passes are new to this team but it's basketball, be ready to catch them. At one point Lowder passed to Wade's back, weren't we all taught to watch the ball at all times As Dickie V. would say, Druzi was a 3D man on that play - drove, drew the defense, made the dish.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 12, 2020 11:28:14 GMT -5
Joe Pridgen has had three tough games in a row offensively--if you believe in KenPom's "O-Rating": 79 then 68 then 56. His 11-24 shooting in those three games isn't bad, but it's not as high a % as he had in prior games. He was 4-12 on free throws due to the horrendous 2-12 versus Navy. He had 14 rebounds and 4 assists, but 13 turnovers. No doubt my man Joe P. is going to have to adjust offensively. In the meantime, I want to see him continue to work hard on those other areas where he still has value - rebounding, defense, and adding general toughness. Not worried about him long term.
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Post by possum on Jan 12, 2020 12:31:14 GMT -5
Not only does JP need to adjust BN needs to come up with some wrinkles on offense to get him the ball in his scoring area.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 12, 2020 14:04:19 GMT -5
HC 1-3 vs Army 0-4 will be like checking the oil. We'll see if we're down a quart or two quarts. A victory makes HC 2-3 which is not too shabby.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 12, 2020 14:12:26 GMT -5
Of course, a loss could mean 1-4 in the PL (2-16 overall) and a new thread telling us the team's record.
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