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Post by cfrivals on Feb 5, 2020 20:42:33 GMT -5
Look like a bad high school team. Just awful on all fronts.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 5, 2020 20:53:07 GMT -5
It's too bad that Austin Butler's 1,000th point could not have come in a win. Congratulations nevertheless.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 5, 2020 20:56:05 GMT -5
Watched BC-Duke on TV last night. The drop off to tonight's game is shocking.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 5, 2020 21:04:29 GMT -5
It's too bad that Austin Butler's 1,000th point could not have come in a win. Congratulations nevertheless. Speaking of AB, I thought it was a pretty bush league move what Kostecka did to him. On Loyola's prior possession, Kostecka was stripped of the ball (may have been a foul, may not have been), and was clearly ticked off. The next time down the floor when he got the ball, he was going to the basket whether someone was in his way or not. To me, it looked like Kostecka wanted to run right over Butler and force the official to make a call one way or another.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 5, 2020 21:12:53 GMT -5
It's too bad that Austin Butler's 1,000th point could not have come in a win. Congratulations nevertheless. Speaking of AB, I thought it was a pretty bush league move what Kostecka did to him. On Loyola's prior possession, Kostecka was stripped of the ball (may have been a foul, may not have been), and was clearly ticked off. The next time down the floor when he got the ball, he was going to the basket whether someone was in his way or not. To me, it looked like Kostecka wanted to run right over Butler and force the official to make a call one way or another. Yet Kostecka and AB had a warm greeting in the handshake line.
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Post by Tom on Feb 5, 2020 21:40:22 GMT -5
- we knew there were going to be ups and downs. Saturday most of the guys played well in a loss. Today pretty much everyone played poorly
- Lots and lots and lots of unforced turnovers. Loyola was in our passing lanes all night long
- I did not know that Coach Fred Owens moved on to Loyola, Glad he was able to get a job after the late retirement of Coach Carmody
- By my count Butler became just the 14th HC player to score his 1000th point as a junior
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 5, 2020 22:02:43 GMT -5
Family commitment prevented me from attending the game in person and I will watch the entire game later tonight or tomorrow. However, after picking up a family member tonight in PVD train station, went to Dave & Buster's for a late dinner (I am of that age where dinner is "late" anytime after 6:00 pm) and asked the D&B staff to put on the game. Saw the beginning of the 2nd half and perhaps half of that half before leaving.
Nothing but turnovers and fouls by both teams and while there was no sound, I told my son: "Loyola looks terrible but Holy Cross looks even worse." What was with Kostecka after a dunk and hanging on the rim and then coming down and somehow hurt a knee or something?
Looked like AB got hurt after getting bowled over, perhaps his lower back?
Saw Jehyve during a crowd shot. Assume his season is over in Europe?
Son asked me if HC had lost 15 games this season and had to tell him I lost count but knew it was at least 19 and maybe 20 and this would be 20th or 21st if they lost (which I see they did). When I was watching, we were down 16 multiple times but got as close as down 9 and faded again before we had to leave. My impression was that the guys continue to fight but often they're just shooting blanks.
When our 3s are not connecting, we have no chance against anyone.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 5, 2020 22:07:08 GMT -5
Watched BC-Duke on TV last night. The drop off to tonight's game is shocking. Why would the caliber of ACC play being much better than that of PL bottom-feeders be "shocking"? Were you expecting it to be close?
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Post by Tom on Feb 5, 2020 22:14:07 GMT -5
Saw Jehyve during a crowd shot. Assume his season is over in Europe? All Star break. He'll head back to Europe in a couple of days
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 5, 2020 22:30:45 GMT -5
Shocking because BC and HC are both in the same NCAA division but light years away from each other in basketball right now. Especially to an old fogey who still thinks of HC and BC as rivals, if in nothing else at least in basketball.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 5, 2020 22:37:29 GMT -5
It's 2020, not 1977. The living in the past by so many in this forum in unhealthy.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 5, 2020 23:11:13 GMT -5
It's 2020, not 1977. The living in the past by so many in this forum in unhealthy. You’re right. Although, some may be longing for the halcyon days of Ralph Willard, where we routinely were competitive with BC until Skinner shut that down, along with scaring Duke at Cameron. Now, we are closer to WPI than those Willard teams.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 5, 2020 23:35:18 GMT -5
In my case I'm happy to live in the present but I hadn't picked up on how far apart the quality of basketball had become between BC and HC until I saw them both on successive nights on TV. I didn't watch too much college sports except HC games before having more time to follow things on this board.
I think HC can make great strides as a mid major because other schools have. We are pinning our hopes on Nelson and his recruiting and coaching ability. My fingers are crossed.
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Post by Crosser on Feb 5, 2020 23:50:33 GMT -5
I'm puzzled about why the team can look so good at times, and so inept at others. But, they always compete and I'll always be supporting them.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 5, 2020 23:58:59 GMT -5
I'm puzzled about why the team can look so good at times, and so inept at others. But, they always compete and I'll always be supporting them. I think you'll find that holds true for every team--they look good when they score and not so good when they don't score or when they give up easy baskets. The randomness of events means even bad shooters hit three or four in a row on occasion, prompting talk of "he's hot tonight" or "Joe's a streaky shooter". The same holds true for teams, in my opinion
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 6, 2020 0:47:11 GMT -5
It's 2020, not 1977. The living in the past by so many in this forum in unhealthy. You’re right. Although, some may be longing for the halcyon days of Ralph Willard, where we routinely were competitive with BC until Skinner shut that down, along with scaring Duke at Cameron. Now, we are closer to WPI than those Willard teams. And WPI has a 68-62 victory over UMass Boston this year ;-)
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Post by sarasota on Feb 6, 2020 0:47:50 GMT -5
Seems like every opponent has 1 or 2 or 3 players that dominate us, that we have no answer for. I saw Wade penetrate ONCE. CLS is definitely earning his minutes, must be gratifying for him. As I've said, Pridgen continues his stupid fouls and poor free throw shooting. Our individual skills level is below every other PL team.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 6, 2020 6:14:29 GMT -5
Had a feeling they were due for a game like this. In many games, they had decent performances marred by a couple of bad stretches. Last night was sloppy pretty much from start to finish.
They say NBA folks are looking at Aldama. I must say, he looks like he has the traveling part down pat already. There were times I thought he was this really tall running back.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 6, 2020 6:52:50 GMT -5
My rationale for picking Loyola was Kostecka is always tough for us and saw here that Aldama was now in the rotation. Couple that with our youth, inexperience, inconsistency and very thin bench made this a tough game. Think it was Ralph who said at the end of the year there is no such thing as a freshman. Not sure he was right.
Still think CLS needs to take his open shots and it seems clear he has a bright yellow light if not red.
While I have still not had a chance to watch the entire game, the part I saw it was clear they are still fighting hard. Maybe too hard and forcing things?
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Post by hcpride on Feb 6, 2020 7:22:38 GMT -5
Despite their record, Aldama's second appearance marks their second victory so I'm looking for Loyola to pick it up for the remainder of the season. We lost to a pretty good PL team and I don't think anybody looking at Loyola's lineup v ours is possibly surprised at our loss.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 6, 2020 8:18:14 GMT -5
Traveling or not, I liked the way Aldama was able to put the ball on the floor. Way too early to say what his ceiling is.
A rare game where HC had more free throw attempts than the opposition, even though they shot 7 more 3s than the Hounds (and that wouldn't include the 3 pointer that Niego (I think) got fouled on).
A reasonable number of 3 point goals and HC wins that game. However, much more excusable than the turnovers, some of which were low high school level.
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Post by possum on Feb 6, 2020 8:30:41 GMT -5
A very sloppy game by both teams numerous turnovers with many unforced. After going up by 17 early in 2nd half Loyola only scored 11 points in the next 13 minutes unfortunately we weren't able to take advantage as we also had trouble scoring. Faw continued his good play despite not shooting well from beyond the arc, Butler also played well but other than those two not much from the rest of the group. Although they didn't play particularly well last night, I think Loyola is a team to watch in the tournament. They have a lot of skilled players led by a POY candidate. Aldama looked like he hasn't played for a few months, had no stamina and seemed to be playing in slow motion when he had the ball. I assume his conditioning will improve and he'll be much better by tournament time. Spencer also looked to be out of shape as he's also been out for awhile. The big guy Dike also seems to have a big upside. With the state of our roster this season can't end soon enough.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 6, 2020 8:45:09 GMT -5
It's too bad that Austin Butler's 1,000th point could not have come in a win. Congratulations nevertheless. Speaking of AB, I thought it was a pretty bush league move what Kostecka did to him. On Loyola's prior possession, Kostecka was stripped of the ball (may have been a foul, may not have been), and was clearly ticked off. The next time down the floor when he got the ball, he was going to the basket whether someone was in his way or not. To me, it looked like Kostecka wanted to run right over Butler and force the official to make a call one way or another. The foul was on LeSan or Niego (whoever was next to Butler) for bumping Kostecka, most likely threw him off balance slightly and he went into Butler out-of-control. Happens. Didn't like his embellishment on a couple other plays, however; but many of them do it.
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 6, 2020 8:48:10 GMT -5
Speaking of AB, I thought it was a pretty bush league move what Kostecka did to him. On Loyola's prior possession, Kostecka was stripped of the ball (may have been a foul, may not have been), and was clearly ticked off. The next time down the floor when he got the ball, he was going to the basket whether someone was in his way or not. To me, it looked like Kostecka wanted to run right over Butler and force the official to make a call one way or another. The foul was on LeSan or Niego (whoever was next to Butler) for bumping Kostecka, most likely threw him off balance slightly and he went into Butler out-of-control. Happens. Didn't like his embellishment on a couple other plays, however; but many of them do it. Foul was called on Ryan Wade...
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Post by hchoops on Feb 6, 2020 9:02:06 GMT -5
Minimal as they are, the highlights
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