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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 27, 2016 21:59:51 GMT -5
Because I was curious, I looked up the impact on the home attendance of the Hartford Wolf Pack when UConn started sharing a building with them in 2014-15: 2013-14: 4,071 2014-15: 4,468 2015-16: 4,440 Not sure if anything else was going on that impacted this, but UConn playing in the same arena certainly didn't hurt the Wolf Pack. UConn leads Hockey East in attendance for Hockey East games for their first two seasons with around 5k
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Sept 27, 2016 22:21:30 GMT -5
Holy Cross does more than any other institution? The entire population of the city of Worcester will disagree with that statement.
True enough - and perception is often more important than reality. Holy Cross does a very poor job of blowing its own horn on this one. Just the price they choose to pay for being traditionalists and not looking for a pat on the back every time they do something good
Ok, we all know Holy Cross does many great things for the city. I'm sorry, they don't do more than any other institution.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 27, 2016 23:17:32 GMT -5
hoops - please explain how you came to this conclusion, as I do not see any damming indictment on Worc politicians in the tweets by Mike McMahon. "Concerns over the availability of the DCU" to me that is on city leaders "w a pro team HC would have been forced to play weeknight games" that seems like nonsense unless there are unknown bookings actp whom do you hold responsible ? hoops - I squarely place blame on the ferkakta Railers and their owner. HC wants HE and HE wants HC. DCU wanted HC also. Railers got bent thinking having HE as a co-tenant in the DCU would cut into their gate and potential sponsorship revenue, and HE may have felt better to not get in the crossfire of a pissing match. However the door appears to left open to revisit it down the road, and who knows - perhaps there is some sort of assumed agreement between all involved parties to let the Railers get their feet wet for a season as the sole hockey tenant and HC comes in for '18-'19.
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Post by sarasota on Sept 28, 2016 3:38:36 GMT -5
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Post by hcgrad94 on Sept 28, 2016 6:33:23 GMT -5
Worcester is a joke. Politicians are incompetent hacks. The Railers are a shiny new bauble they are tripping over to play with but will be gone in 3 years. PILOT is definitely part of this, which is so sad and pathetic as HC does more for Woo than any other institution. Holy Cross does more than any other institution? The entire population of the city of Worcester will disagree with that statement. SPUD, Nativity, Big Brothers, Bookmobile, tutoring etc etc. Who does more? WPI? Assumption? Clark?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 28, 2016 6:42:00 GMT -5
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Post by hcgrad94 on Sept 28, 2016 6:59:02 GMT -5
They caved and wrote a check. Our students make Worcester better every day with their time and effort.
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Post by gks on Sept 28, 2016 7:12:35 GMT -5
Wormtown Sader Fan is right. HC's reputation in the city of Worcester is not good. Whether that feeling is justified or not is another story but as a resident of the area it is shocking to me how little area sports fans know and care about HC athletics. Men's hoop run did a lot to help and Hockey East would be a big help also. I have no idea whether ECHL will work or not. Minor league hockey is about as stable as an earthquake. I do know that the Railers owner has make a large financial commitment to the city. You can see the rink complex being built as we speak. HC has to tread lightly on this one. Can't come in thinking they're the top priority because unfortunately they are not in this discussion.
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Post by realism on Sept 28, 2016 7:38:41 GMT -5
"Concerns over the availability of the DCU" to me that is on city leaders "w a pro team HC would have been forced to play weeknight games" that seems like nonsense unless there are unknown bookings actp whom do you hold responsible ? hoops - I squarely place blame on the ferkakta Railers and their owner. HC wants HE and HE wants HC. DCU wanted HC also. Railers got bent thinking having HE as a co-tenant in the DCU would cut into their gate and potential sponsorship revenue, and HE may have felt better to not get in the crossfire of a pissing match. However the door appears to left open to revisit it down the road, and who knows - perhaps there is some sort of assumed agreement between all involved parties to let the Railers get their feet wet for a season as the sole hockey tenant and HC comes in for '18-'19. ACTP, Your naivete' about complex transactions and the moving parts in this transaction have been beyond embarrassing for you from the get go. You're no insider, try though you may to pretend otherwise. And your 'homer' instincts, though admirable as a loyal HC alum prevent you from seeing how complex this transaction will be to complete, even if the DCU part of it can be worked out.. You're well intentioned but clueless and clearly out of your league. Stick to coaching little league or whatever your claim to fame may actually be.
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Sept 28, 2016 7:57:09 GMT -5
They caved and wrote a check. Our students make Worcester better every day with their time and effort. This is my last comment on this topic. Worcester is fortunate to have some great colleges in the city, especially Holy Cross. Many students of every college volunteer, tutor and try to make their neighborhood better, especially Clark University. I believe if a college, or any other not for profit institution makes a major real estate purchase they have a moral obligation to make PILOT payments on that property. As far as Hockey East, I think there is a lot of skepticism in the city as far as the commitment Holy Cross will show towards a big time sports upgrade in any sport. Not the fault of the city leadership, but from past experience. There is a team that has already made a financial investment, purchased property, and is on it's way to playing in 2017. Is it a major risk? Of course. Will it work? I still say if they get a Bruins affiliation they will succeed. But, for the city to walk away from this ECHL group because Holy Cross might be able to get in to the Hockey East would send a bad message to anyone wanting to invest in the city. Ok, done, I'm out....
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 28, 2016 8:11:08 GMT -5
There are several issues.
* HC is not getting into HE without either a new rink on campus, or the DCU. Some posters seem to feel that the city should cut a sweetheart deal with HC to minimize the cost of HC playing at the DCU.
* There is only one Div I team that plays at an off-campus rink, and that is UConn. As I understand it, UConn has been so successful attendance-wise, that HE is allowing UConn to continue playing in Hartford, rather than at a new rink in Storrs.
* In 2016, BC at Conte averaged nearly 5,000, 63 percent of capacity; BostonU 4,400, 70 percent of capacity; Providence averaged 3,000, 98 percent of capacity; Northeastern averaged 2500, 53 percent of capacity; Harvard 2400, 74 percent of capacity; Holy Cross 1100, 76 percent of capacity Brown 1100, 44 percent of capacity
All on-campus rinks. How many HC students will travel to DCU, and how will they travel there? Anyone care to speculate what the average HC paid attendance at the DCU would be? (There will be very few students if students are paying for seats.)
* Then there is the cost: > Scollies for the women will increase the cost of women;s ice hockey by about $1 million. > Membership in HE will cost HC men's hockey an additional $1.2 to $2.0 million, and that's without including DCU costs.
Where is the additional money coming from?
Spending N/W ice hockey, 2014-15, New England and New York, Div I
Bentley 1284375 / no women BC 3676409 / 1669872 BU 3277016 / 2164222 Brown 778538 / 558111 Canisius 991566 / no women Clarkson 2193204 / 1724456 Colgate 1854794 / 1538995 HC 1284850 / 516597 Cornell 1587722 / 830628 Dartmouth 1419430 / 866700 Harvard 1127309 / 686381 Merrimack 1927291 / no women Niagara 1184240 / no women Northeastern 2468226 / 1781812 Providence 3299131 / 1760761 Quinnipiac 2271811 / 1998593 RPI 2231241 / 1612127 Rochester 1025428 / 604273 Sacred Heart 1397009 / 312068 St Lawrence 1885646 / 1568600 Syracuse no men / 2075366 Union 844592 / 399213 Yale 1259837 / 627404 (Ivies and several others, need-based aid only and not included in totals)
UConn 2046624 / 1518231 Maine 2014509 / 864272 UMass 1581716 / no women UMass Lowell 2407968 / no women (includes Tsongas costs?) UNH 2590726 / 1697358 Vermont 1977274 / 1341805
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Post by realism on Sept 28, 2016 9:48:29 GMT -5
As a reader of Crossposts, I'm as far away to a connection to H.C. as you can get. I sometimes wonder if anyone on this Board has any insight beyond pure impulsive "homerism?'
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Aug 30, 2016 at 3:00pm QuotePost Options Post by td128 on Aug 30, 2016 at 3:00pm realism Avatar Aug 29, 2016 at 5:20pm realism said: A Clock Tower Purple Avatar Jun 29, 2016 at 7:38pm A Clock Tower Purple said: Sked is getting amped up in anticipation of a conference upgrade. We know that H.C.'s and H.E.'s decision, at the very least, won't be happening anytime soon. Want to give everyone an announcement date...how about a year ?
A year? Really? If you are willing to make that an official over/under line, I would welcome taking the under for a social wager.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 28, 2016 10:01:56 GMT -5
1. Ah yes, the money. It has to come from somewhere, or no go. Am I naive to think that HC wouldn't be applying to this league if that wasn't planned out? If they haven't, then everything else I've written is moot.
2. Regardless of the men's decision, it appears that the women's budget figure is going up if indeed this is HC's last year as a D1-in-name-only program. That program has to go somewhere, doesn't it? And somewhere is going to cost more.
3. There is a big difference between driving from Storrs to Hartford vis-a-vis driving two miles from the hill parking lots to the DCU Center.
4. I would think whether the students will go downtown will, like the general public, depend on the attractiveness of the team and the opponents. How much they should pay is another matter. Can be worked out. It's got to be better for the DCU to have fannies in the seats at a reduced rate..concession sales, etc. But one thing I will say is that no venture with a seating capacity that large can succeed depending upon a student body of 2700.
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Post by deep Purple on Sept 28, 2016 10:17:14 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but wasn't "Working for Worcester" started by a couple of HC hockey players?
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Post by wooman on Sept 28, 2016 10:39:26 GMT -5
Can't help but get a little chuckle at this whole thing. When the city of Worcester desperately wanted Holy Cross to join the Big East the mantra was the Holy Cross had to do what was good for Holy Cross. Now that Holy Cross needs the city of Worcester the alums are shaking their fists demanding something be done. Believe me, I would like nothing more than to see Hockey East in this city. Perhaps investing on some real dollars in downtown Worcester on a scale similar to Cliff Rucker may help. Holy Cross and its alumni have pumped more money into Worcester than Cliff Rucker ever will. Period. End. Cheers. I think that type of Brooksonian, high and mighty thinking is really part of the problem, 1843 - and it ultimately sets back the effort to make HC membership in HE a reality. Up until the mid to late 1970s, Holy Cross was an important part of the fabric of the community. Alums and non-alums alike from Worcester and the surroundings would regularly attend HC sporting events, and there was actually a "subway" for HC in the area, on a smaller scale obviously to what Notre Dame has enjoyed. Increasingly over Fr. Brooks' tenure, HC became more distant to the Worcester and the community - adopting the mantra that others on this board have alluded to that "HC needs to be what's best for HC". I think Fr. Brooks took that a step further and actually ignored the concerns of the community, resulting in an ever widening gap between HC and the community at large. Hard to know what's in somebody's heart and mind, but I eventually got the feeling that if Fr. Brooks could have magically, hyper-spaced the Holy Cross campus and relocated to Boston, Fairfield County, Westchester County, or Bergen County he would have done it in a New York minute. Unfortunately, it appears that this Brooksonian approach has become engrained into the culture at HC, as evidenced by some of the postings on this board.
I'd like to see this work for all sides involved, and I do think this presents an opportunity for HC to begin to restore the once healthy relationship the school had with the community. According to published reports HC only averaged 1,060 fans at home games last year (55th out of 60 D1 programs). Clearly, if HE is to be successful for HC, the support of area non-alums is essential. However, the arrogant, finger wagging approach won't further that goal.
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Post by wooman on Sept 28, 2016 10:47:46 GMT -5
Holy Cross and its alumni have pumped more money into Worcester than Cliff Rucker ever will. Period. End. Cheers. I think that type of Brooksonian, high and mighty thinking is really part of the problem, 1843 - and it ultimately sets back the effort to make HC membership in HE a reality. Up until the mid to late 1970s, Holy Cross was an important part of the fabric of the community. Alums and non-alums alike from Worcester and the surroundings would regularly attend HC sporting events, and there was actually a "subway" for HC in the area, on a smaller scale obviously to what Notre Dame has enjoyed. Increasingly over Fr. Brooks' tenure, HC became more distant to the Worcester and the community - adopting the mantra that others on this board have alluded to that "HC needs to be what's best for HC". I think Fr. Brooks took that a step further and actually ignored the concerns of the community, resulting in an ever widening gap between HC and the community at large. Hard to know what's in somebody's heart and mind, but I eventually got the feeling that if Fr. Brooks could have magically, hyper-spaced the Holy Cross campus and relocated to Boston, Fairfield County, Westchester County, or Bergen County he would have done it in a New York minute. Unfortunately, it appears that this Brooksonian approach has become engrained into the culture at HC, as evidenced by some of the postings on this board.
I'd like to see this work for all sides involved, and I do think this presents an opportunity for HC to begin to restore the once healthy relationship the school had with the community. According to published reports HC only averaged 1,060 fans at home games last year (55th out of 60 D1 programs). Clearly, if HE is to be successful for HC, the support of area non-alums is essential. However, the arrogant, finger wagging approach won't further that goal.
Meant to say "subway alumni" - my bad.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 28, 2016 11:23:28 GMT -5
hoops - I squarely place blame on the ferkakta Railers and their owner. HC wants HE and HE wants HC. DCU wanted HC also. Railers got bent thinking having HE as a co-tenant in the DCU would cut into their gate and potential sponsorship revenue, and HE may have felt better to not get in the crossfire of a pissing match. However the door appears to left open to revisit it down the road, and who knows - perhaps there is some sort of assumed agreement between all involved parties to let the Railers get their feet wet for a season as the sole hockey tenant and HC comes in for '18-'19. ACTP, Your naivete' about complex transactions and the moving parts in this transaction have been beyond embarrassing for you from the get go. You're no insider, try though you may to pretend otherwise. And your 'homer' instincts, though admirable as a loyal HC alum prevent you from seeing how complex this transaction will be to complete, even if the DCU part of it can be worked out.. You're well intentioned but clueless and clearly out of your league. Stick to coaching little league or whatever your claim to fame may actually be. You are really out of line with this post and have been with several others. Why not take the high road instead of stooping to the insult route?
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 28, 2016 12:01:51 GMT -5
There are several issues. * HC is not getting into HE without either a new rink on campus, or the DCU. Some posters seem to feel that the city should cut a sweetheart deal with HC to minimize the cost of HC playing at the DCU. * There is only one Div I team that plays at an off-campus rink, and that is UConn. As I understand it, UConn has been so successful attendance-wise, that HE is allowing UConn to continue playing in Hartford, rather than at a new rink in Storrs. * In 2016, BC at Conte averaged nearly 5,000, 63 percent of capacity; BostonU 4,400, 70 percent of capacity; Providence averaged 3,000, 98 percent of capacity; Northeastern averaged 2500, 53 percent of capacity; Harvard 2400, 74 percent of capacity; Holy Cross 1100, 76 percent of capacity Brown 1100, 44 percent of capacity All on-campus rinks. How many HC students will travel to DCU, and how will they travel there? Anyone care to speculate what the average HC paid attendance at the DCU would be? (There will be very few students if students are paying for seats.) * Then there is the cost: > Scollies for the women will increase the cost of women;s ice hockey by about $1 million. > Membership in HE will cost HC men's hockey an additional $1.2 to $2.0 million, and that's without including DCU costs. Where is the additional money coming from? Spending N/W ice hockey, 2014-15, New England and New York, Div IBentley 1284375 / no women BC 3676409 / 1669872 BU 3277016 / 2164222 Brown 778538 / 558111 Canisius 991566 / no women Clarkson 2193204 / 1724456 Colgate 1854794 / 1538995 HC 1284850 / 516597
Cornell 1587722 / 830628 Dartmouth 1419430 / 866700 Harvard 1127309 / 686381 Merrimack 1927291 / no women Niagara 1184240 / no women Northeastern 2468226 / 1781812 Providence 3299131 / 1760761 Quinnipiac 2271811 / 1998593 RPI 2231241 / 1612127 Rochester 1025428 / 604273 Sacred Heart 1397009 / 312068 St Lawrence 1885646 / 1568600 Syracuse no men / 2075366 Union 844592 / 399213 Yale 1259837 / 627404 (Ivies and several others, need-based aid only and not included in totals) UConn 2046624 / 1518231 Maine 2014509 / 864272 UMass 1581716 / no women UMass Lowell 2407968 / no women (includes Tsongas costs?) UNH 2590726 / 1697358 Vermont 1977274 / 1341805 Actually, Minnesota State-Mankato, Alabama Huntsville, Alaska Anchorage, AIC, Sacred Heart, Canisius, Bentley (moving on campus) all play off-campus and there could be more that I am missing.
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Post by HC1843 on Sept 28, 2016 12:15:48 GMT -5
Holy Cross and its alumni have pumped more money into Worcester than Cliff Rucker ever will. Period. End. Cheers. I think that type of Brooksonian, high and mighty thinking is really part of the problem, 1843 - and it ultimately sets back the effort to make HC membership in HE a reality. Up until the mid to late 1970s, Holy Cross was an important part of the fabric of the community. Alums and non-alums alike from Worcester and the surroundings would regularly attend HC sporting events, and there was actually a "subway" for HC in the area, on a smaller scale obviously to what Notre Dame has enjoyed. Increasingly over Fr. Brooks' tenure, HC became more distant to the Worcester and the community - adopting the mantra that others on this board have alluded to that "HC needs to be what's best for HC". I think Fr. Brooks took that a step further and actually ignored the concerns of the community, resulting in an ever widening gap between HC and the community at large. Hard to know what's in somebody's heart and mind, but I eventually got the feeling that if Fr. Brooks could have magically, hyper-spaced the Holy Cross campus and relocated to Boston, Fairfield County, Westchester County, or Bergen County he would have done it in a New York minute. Unfortunately, it appears that this Brooksonian approach has become engrained into the culture at HC, as evidenced by some of the postings on this board.
I'd like to see this work for all sides involved, and I do think this presents an opportunity for HC to begin to restore the once healthy relationship the school had with the community. According to published reports HC only averaged 1,060 fans at home games last year (55th out of 60 D1 programs). Clearly, if HE is to be successful for HC, the support of area non-alums is essential. However, the arrogant, finger wagging approach won't further that goal.
Not being arrogant or taking a position on town-gown relationships. The problem with that is on both sides of the aisle. That said, I am simply stating that HC's financial impact on Worcester anD area towns far surpasses Mr. Rucker's recent investments. Many folks at city Hall lose sight of that because they have agendas too as well as voters to appease. Anyway, not being Brooksonian as you define it, just stating that HC is far more valuable to the city than the ECHL franchise is. People need to reach across the aisle and find a way to make it work for everyone. Fans will then decide if the ECHL teM survives. Cheers.
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Post by wooman on Sept 28, 2016 12:55:38 GMT -5
I think that type of Brooksonian, high and mighty thinking is really part of the problem, 1843 - and it ultimately sets back the effort to make HC membership in HE a reality. Up until the mid to late 1970s, Holy Cross was an important part of the fabric of the community. Alums and non-alums alike from Worcester and the surroundings would regularly attend HC sporting events, and there was actually a "subway" for HC in the area, on a smaller scale obviously to what Notre Dame has enjoyed. Increasingly over Fr. Brooks' tenure, HC became more distant to the Worcester and the community - adopting the mantra that others on this board have alluded to that "HC needs to be what's best for HC". I think Fr. Brooks took that a step further and actually ignored the concerns of the community, resulting in an ever widening gap between HC and the community at large. Hard to know what's in somebody's heart and mind, but I eventually got the feeling that if Fr. Brooks could have magically, hyper-spaced the Holy Cross campus and relocated to Boston, Fairfield County, Westchester County, or Bergen County he would have done it in a New York minute. Unfortunately, it appears that this Brooksonian approach has become engrained into the culture at HC, as evidenced by some of the postings on this board.
I'd like to see this work for all sides involved, and I do think this presents an opportunity for HC to begin to restore the once healthy relationship the school had with the community. According to published reports HC only averaged 1,060 fans at home games last year (55th out of 60 D1 programs). Clearly, if HE is to be successful for HC, the support of area non-alums is essential. However, the arrogant, finger wagging approach won't further that goal.
Not being arrogant or taking a position on town-gown relationships. The problem with that is on both sides of the aisle. That said, I am simply stating that HC's financial impact on Worcester anD area towns far surpasses Mr. Rucker's recent investments. Many folks at city Hall lose sight of that because they have agendas too as well as voters to appease. Anyway, not being Brooksonian as you define it, just stating that HC is far more valuable to the city than the ECHL franchise is. People need to reach across the aisle and find a way to make it work for everyone. Fans will then decide if the ECHL teM survives. Cheers.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 28, 2016 15:46:36 GMT -5
1. Ah yes, the money. It has to come from somewhere, or no go. Am I naive to think that HC wouldn't be applying to this league if that wasn't planned out? If they haven't, then everything else I've written is moot. .... 3. There is a big difference between driving from Storrs to Hartford vis-a-vis driving two miles from the hill parking lots to the DCU Center. 1.) Money I can find the money in ADNP's budget going forward. However, the cost of HE and scollie's for the woman consumes nearly all the available ADNP money. Which leaves 'Nada' for other sports; which leaves 'Nada' for football to bring it up to par with other PL schools. IMO, ADNP is not building a 400 foot long field house to support teams whose current spending level is at the bottom or the bottom half of the PL. He could have built a new rink for that money, and built up ice hockey.. 2. Expression of interest I have little doubt that there could have been informal inquiries from HE to HC about HC's potential interest, and HC could have similarly explored with HE whether HE might have an interest.. (Fr. B. inquired of his great friend Jack DeGioia whether there might be room in the NBE for HC, and was told, 'No' So such exploratory inquiries happen.) However, I have not seen any indication that HC actually applied to HE for men's hockey. ADNP did say in the T&G that HC was looking at HE, ECAC, and one other conference for the women, now that HC wasn't being allowed to continue the women in Div. III. My guess if there was any conversations between HC and HE, they centered on terms. Would HE waive the 4,000 seat on-campus venue requirement? Is there revenue-sharing? How much? From my perspective, playing at DCU is probably a non-starter financially for HC. On the old board when there were earlier HE & HC threads, I tried to calculate what the rental charge might be. I do recall that DCU event employees were receiving four hour or 8 hour minimum pay for event. An electrician might be paid $50 an hour, with an eight hour minimum. There were two 2 or 3 employees just for the videoboard. If it takes 30, 40, 50 DCU employees to staff an ice hockey event, that's a lot of money. Which is why DCU takes all / almost all the concession sales, and imposes a ticket surcharge. I think the Hart rink seating could feasibly be expanded to 2,500, by blowing out the west wall, and raising the roof. All new seating would go on the west side. But if HE insists on no less than 4,000, then you are talking a new rink. Reading the tea leaves, HE, a.) does not need HC as a conference member (And ND leaving saves on travel in a major way); b.) HE is unwilling to budge on the 4,000 minimum capacity. 3.) Student attendance. Students are away from campus or in exam period for perhaps a third of the season. It is difficult enough these days to get students to walk a few hundred yards to the Hart for hoops; I don't see them driving downtown. What are the parking rates at the garages near the DCU?. ___________________________________________________ Where does the money for athletics come from? For Division I-AAA private schools (no football) 2014(Would include Boston U, Providence, Quinnipiac, Northeastern) Ticket sales 5 percent NCAA and conference distributions 6 percent Guarantees and options 1 percent Cash contributions from alumni and others 7 percent Royalties, advertising, sponsorship 3 percent Other 3 percent (Total ^^^ generated revenue 24 percent) Support from the school (student tuition and fees) 76 percent _________________________________ Div I-AA Ice hockey (public and private schools)M generated revenue median $432,000 W generated revenue median $74,000 Median compensation M's head coach Basketball $254,000 Football $245,000 Ice Hockey $253,000 Div I-AAA ice hockey (public and private schools)M generated revenue median $718,000 W generated revenue median $99,000 Median compensation M's head coach Basketball $345,000 Ice Hockey $346,000
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Post by sarasota on Sept 28, 2016 15:53:59 GMT -5
We used to pack college-provided buses to travel to the Aud for bball games, but that was in a far far different world.
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Post by HC1843 on Sept 28, 2016 16:01:45 GMT -5
The numbers are blinding you PP to emotional and institutonal motivations behind reestablishing sports, even if as loss leaders for alma mater.
Yor argument misses the requisite nuance of subjective motivations.
Cheers.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 28, 2016 16:18:08 GMT -5
We used to pack college-provided buses to travel to the Aud for bball games, but that was in a far far different world. Yes it was. HC hasn't done a 'March on Worcester' in many decades! There are no pep rallies anymore, are there? ______________________________________________ DCU Center Fiscal 2014 RevenueNet event income $1.7 million (rents for the convention center / arena portion not broken out) Net food and beverage $2.6 million Net novelty $71K Advertising $343K New service fees $260K Ticket service fees $729K Other $82K The city of Worcester also receives over $200K foom a scoreboard ticket surcharge, and $1.4 million from a special tax on meals and hotel rooms (part of a special district in Boston, Worcester, and Springfield).
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Post by hchoops on Sept 28, 2016 16:26:52 GMT -5
There was a pep rally Friday night before the Dartmouth game
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