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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 9, 2020 9:37:27 GMT -5
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Post by lou on Nov 9, 2020 9:53:58 GMT -5
Wonder if the 3 divisions have been decided upon ? Certainly the schedules will be imbalanced. Challenge for each team to play 16 games with one division having 4 teams. With no plane travel, it would seem to favor the Central division having the 4 teams. The two 3 team divisions would have to play each team 6 times to het to the 12 conference games. 8 of the 10 make the playoffs. Click on the link |
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Post by timholycross on Nov 9, 2020 9:54:09 GMT -5
The schedule is posted within patriotleague.org/documents/2020/11/9//2021PLBKBschedules110920.pdfHC/BU/Army/Colgate Lehigh/Lafayette/Bucknell Navy/Loyola/American Holy Cross: 6 games against BU, 4 each against Army and Colgate; a pair w/Lehigh. The Boston U and Army pairs are home-and-home. Colgate is two home, two away. Lehigh two at home. |
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Post by hchoops on Nov 9, 2020 10:09:51 GMT -5
That is a pretty tough schedule.
At least one error on the schedule: the final two BU games should be in bold print as mini conference games
The key question: will all 6 games against BU count for this year’s TT ?
With the two games vs Lehigh being at home, it seems as if we have 9 home games, 7 away.
Wow !
This could be a record for a League unbalanced schedule
An old adage says, It is very hard to beat the same team three times in one season.
How about four ? SIX ?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 9, 2020 10:34:53 GMT -5
The key question: will all 6 games against BU count for this year’s TT ? Is that still going on? |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 9, 2020 10:53:44 GMT -5
I thought we were told that we were going to wait for the Ivy League's decision-confusing...
I think I made a post a few weeks ago saying I'd be happy if we played every game against BU (for travel reasons) and it looks like we're close to that.
I will be deliriously happy if we do play this schedule, as strange as it is
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 9, 2020 10:58:33 GMT -5
I am just looking forward to see HC play again. Online, on television, in person...in any form in almost any sport.  How does BU project to be this year in hoops? (I know we will be better than the Terriers in football.)  |
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Post by hchoops on Nov 9, 2020 11:00:44 GMT -5
On quick look it seems as if the only other pair to play each other six times is AU- Loyola
Army and Navy certainly receive a competitive advantage by playing OOC games in November and December.
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 9, 2020 11:15:16 GMT -5
Channeling Malcolm Miller ... We the North!
9 home games and 7 Road. That's a positive.
6 games against BU. Could lead to some familiarity which as we all know breeds contempt. Might something of a healthy rivalry develop? Could be an adjunct test of the CHC8485 develop a rivalry plan where you play the same school in the season finale in all sports every year to generate a little bad blood between schools.
How will the 8 teams that make the Conference Tournament be determined? 1st & 2nd place in each mini-conference seems appropriate. But which 3rd place team is left out? Can all 4 from the North make it?
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Oh and I'll bet this news brings a little extra juice to practice today!
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Post by hchoops on Nov 9, 2020 11:24:10 GMT -5
Channeling Malcolm Miller ... We the North! 9 home games and 7 Road. That's a positive. 6 games against BU. Could lead to some familiarity which as we all know breeds contempt. Might something of a healthy rivalry develop? Could be an adjunct test of the CHC8485 develop a rivalry plan where you play the same school in the season finale in all sports every year to generate a little bad blood between schools. How will the 8 teams that make the Conference Tournament be determined? 1st & 2nd place in each mini-conference seems appropriate. But which 3rd place team is left out? Can all 4 from the North make it? Maybe they will just go with top 8 records and a complex tie breaking system ? Or top two in each, as you say, then the next two best records with tie breakers. Where will the playoffs be held. If seeding results in a far distance travel, they may not be able to play at the higher seed ? A bubble in a Pennsylvania city ? |
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Post by bison137 on Nov 9, 2020 11:40:22 GMT -5
Channeling Malcolm Miller ... We the North! 9 home games and 7 Road. That's a positive. 6 games against BU. Could lead to some familiarity which as we all know breeds contempt. Might something of a healthy rivalry develop? Could be an adjunct test of the CHC8485 develop a rivalry plan where you play the same school in the season finale in all sports every year to generate a little bad blood between schools. How will the 8 teams that make the Conference Tournament be determined? 1st & 2nd place in each mini-conference seems appropriate. But which 3rd place team is left out? Can all 4 from the North make it? Maybe they will just go with top 8 records and a complex tie breaking system ? Or top two in each, as you say, then the next two best records with tie breakers. Where will the playoffs be held. If seeding results in a far distance travel, they may not be able to play at the higher seed ? A bubble in a Pennsylvania city ? No bubble for the tournament. Games are Saturday, Wednesday, Sunday. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 9, 2020 12:30:56 GMT -5
Regarding the PL tournament, with the teams playing schedules of greatly different strengths (aka “fairness”) it makes sense to have all teams make the tournament. We could even have a random seeding.
“ it’s not fair we had the toughest schedule. It’s not fair they had more home games.”
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Post by hchoops on Nov 9, 2020 12:33:10 GMT -5
My guess is that the PL wanted a limited number of. Playoff Games
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Post by HC92 on Nov 9, 2020 12:47:41 GMT -5
18 game PL schedule. North Division: HC Army Colgate BU South Division Loyola AU Navy Central Division: Laf Lehigh Bucknell North: 4 games against 3 other North = 12 1 game against each South and Central Team = 6 Central: 4 games against 2 other Central = 8 2 games against 3 South = 6 1 game against 4 North = 4 (Fr/Sat vs HC/BU and Colgate/Army) South: 4 games against 2 other South = 8 2 games against 3 Central = 6 1 game against 4 North = 4 Not exactly right but I nailed the divisions. Took me about 4 minutes. Wonder how many Zoom meetings it took for the PL to come up with their version? |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 9, 2020 16:09:12 GMT -5
The weekend of Feb 27/28 set aside for make-up games. Also the quarterfinals on March 6 may include make-up games.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 9, 2020 16:14:36 GMT -5
The weekend of Feb 27/28 set aside for make-up games. Also the quarterfinals on March 6 may include make-up games. How could the quarterfinals also include make up games? |
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Post by hchoops on Nov 9, 2020 16:55:34 GMT -5
Fine point
But that is what the schedule says
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 9, 2020 17:22:33 GMT -5
Fine point But that is what the schedule says Maybe the quarterfinals, semi-finals, and even the finals will be held at a limited number of sites, and overnight travel will be allowed. So a make-up game on Friday, before a quarterfinal on Saturday. |
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Post by bison137 on Nov 9, 2020 17:24:00 GMT -5
Fine point But that is what the schedule says Hadn't seen that. But I see it says quarterfinal games OR makeup games. One or the other. If games still need to be made up by that date, then I imagine the quarterfinals would be pushed back to Monday and the semis to Thursday. More likely, imo, is that they would try to play the makeup games during the week and keep the tournament schedule intact. |
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Post by bison137 on Nov 9, 2020 17:33:21 GMT -5
Channeling Malcolm Miller ... We the North! 9 home games and 7 Road. That's a positive. 6 games against BU. Could lead to some familiarity which as we all know breeds contempt. Might something of a healthy rivalry develop? Could be an adjunct test of the CHC8485 develop a rivalry plan where you play the same school in the season finale in all sports every year to generate a little bad blood between schools. How will the 8 teams that make the Conference Tournament be determined? 1st & 2nd place in each mini-conference seems appropriate. But which 3rd place team is left out? Can all 4 from the North make it? Maybe they will just go with top 8 records and a complex tie breaking system ? Or top two in each, as you say, then the next two best records with tie breakers. Where will the playoffs be held. If seeding results in a far distance travel, they may not be able to play at the higher seed ? A bubble in a Pennsylvania city ? I think that some tournament consideration will definitely be given to the winners of the mini-conferences. The PL seems to have made that clear by specifying which games between HC and Boston U (and American and Loyola) are NOT mini-conference games, so as to limit each team's mini-conference games to four per opponent. IF the mini-conference was irrelevant to the tournament seedings and was only used as a scheduling convenience, then there would be no reason to declare that two of HC's games with Boston U are not mini-conference games. |
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Post by princetoncrusader on Nov 9, 2020 17:52:41 GMT -5
Will spectators be permitted? Social distancing shouldn't be a problem in most PL gyms.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 9, 2020 17:59:37 GMT -5
Fine point But that is what the schedule says Maybe the quarterfinals, semi-finals, and even the finals will be held at a limited number of sites, and overnight travel will be allowed. So a make-up game on Friday, before a quarterfinal on Saturday. I'm pretty sure tournament games will be held at the home court of each higher seed, as is the normal procedure. To use a limited number of sites increases expenses and probably increases covid exposure as more teams are forced into a small area. Btw, another interpretation of their statement that March 7th would be for "quarterfinal games OR makeup games" would be that if a number of makeup games are still needed by the 7th that they might go directly to semi-finals and only take the top four. Almost anything is on the table this year. |
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Post by bison137 on Nov 9, 2020 18:04:02 GMT -5
Will spectators be permitted? Social distancing shouldn't be a problem in most PL gyms. I am guessing/hoping that it will be left to the individual schools and their respective states. In Bucknell's case, if everyone wants their season tickets (which may not happen this year), then fans may only get tickets for selected games. |
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Post by hchoops on Nov 9, 2020 18:50:50 GMT -5
Maybe the quarterfinals, semi-finals, and even the finals will be held at a limited number of sites, and overnight travel will be allowed. So a make-up game on Friday, before a quarterfinal on Saturday. I'm pretty sure tournament games will be held at the home court of each higher seed, as is the normal procedure. To use a limited number of sites increases expenses and probably increases covid exposure as more teams are forced into a small area. Btw, another interpretation of their statement that March 7th would be for "quarterfinal games OR makeup games" would be that if a number of makeup games are still needed by the 7th that they might go directly to semi-finals and only take the top four. Almost anything is on the table this year. The problem with the higher seed having home court is the possible distance the visiting team may have to travel. Navy to BU, for example |
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Post by DiMarz on Nov 9, 2020 20:30:38 GMT -5
As of now, no fans in the Hart Center...All the games will be streamed on a Patriot League network..NOT ESPN3
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