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Post by beerseach on Oct 12, 2016 20:41:02 GMT -5
Well lets start throwing some things out we are looking for. I for one want to see a guy who will bring some discipline, toughness, and develop the players we have. The lack of discipline and develop of the players is a huge thing. Been watching these kids for awhile now and they don't seem to get bigger, stronger, or faster, or better. They just seem to get older...
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 13, 2016 4:39:29 GMT -5
"Been watching these kids for awhile now and they don't seem to get bigger, stronger, or faster, or better. They just seem to get older..."
Wouldn't a lot of "big, strong, faster" be mostly on the strength and conditioning coach who I don't think is under the control of the football coach because he has that same role for all the varsity teams? Does that not fall on the AD?
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Post by inhocsigno on Oct 13, 2016 9:28:56 GMT -5
"Been watching these kids for awhile now and they don't seem to get bigger, stronger, or faster, or better. They just seem to get older..."
Wouldn't a lot of "big, strong, faster" be mostly on the strength and conditioning coach who I don't think is under the control of the football coach because he has that same role for all the varsity teams? Does that not fall on the AD?
Coach Oliver is a highly respected S&C Coach, and is one of the best in the business. The assumption that the kids are not getting "bigger, stronger, or faster" is just not supportable. Kids don't typically grow much taller then when they are recruited, unless they graduate HS at 17. They gain muscle weight - 10-15 lbs is probably ideal - while marginally increasing speed and maintaining flexibility and athletic ability. If you want beach workouts and bodybuilders, go to Venice Beach. You don't win football games with guys that look like Tarzan, but play like Jane.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 13, 2016 9:54:49 GMT -5
If I had to guess I'd bet that our players all spend time in the weight room and put on weight to the tune of 10-15 lbs for RB's and DB's and WR's; 20-30 lbs for the line men and 15 lbs for the guys in between. Haven't we looked at this before, looking at the seniors on the roster and then referencing their weights from three years before?
UPDATE:
Checked this year's seniors versus their freshman roster weights:
Cameron + 20 lbs Doe no chg Flaherty +6 Ford +8 Guild +15 Griffin +21 Kosharek +33 Martinez +7 McGuire (5) Millhouse +5 Murray +27 Nikoliasen +40 Piker +20 Pujals +28 Smith +17 Wasp +7 Young +25
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Post by beerseach on Oct 13, 2016 10:30:57 GMT -5
We seem to get pushed around on the field with seemingly no improvement....
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Post by rickii on Oct 13, 2016 12:28:35 GMT -5
Jeff Oliver is a former OLer from BC. He's about 35 pounds lighter than his playing days.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Oct 13, 2016 13:09:57 GMT -5
"Been watching these kids for awhile now and they don't seem to get bigger, stronger, or faster, or better. They just seem to get older..."
Wouldn't a lot of "big, strong, faster" be mostly on the strength and conditioning coach who I don't think is under the control of the football coach because he has that same role for all the varsity teams? Does that not fall on the AD?
We have 26 penalties YTD and our opponents have 48. Discipline?
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Post by beerseach on Oct 13, 2016 13:18:51 GMT -5
Those 4 15 yarders in a must win game against Bucknell killed us....
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Oct 13, 2016 13:20:29 GMT -5
Well lets start throwing some things out we are looking for. I for one want to see a guy who will bring some discipline, toughness, and develop the players we have. The lack of discipline and develop of the players is a huge thing. Been watching these kids for awhile now and they don't seem to get bigger, stronger, or faster, or better. They just seem to get older... The most important and best player on the squad - Pujals, has improved his overall play significantly year to year.
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Post by beerseach on Oct 13, 2016 13:20:40 GMT -5
Lets not get sidetracked here. Who and what kind of things should HC be looking for in a new head coach?
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Post by beerseach on Oct 13, 2016 13:24:15 GMT -5
Well lets start throwing some things out we are looking for. I for one want to see a guy who will bring some discipline, toughness, and develop the players we have. The lack of discipline and develop of the players is a huge thing. Been watching these kids for awhile now and they don't seem to get bigger, stronger, or faster, or better. They just seem to get older... The most important and best player on the squad - Pujals, has improved his overall play significantly year to year. Ok great one player. You got me... I believe he benefited from the OC change and has definitely improved... Come on is there anyone on this board that would say Holy Cross players as a group improve very much over the course of their careers? We beat Albany 37-0 last season and returned 17 or 18 starters and got absolutely blasted by them this year. They brought in a whole new bus load of players? Or did they develop players better than we did? What gives...
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 13, 2016 14:13:53 GMT -5
With all the talk about Brian Kelly potentially getting fired from ND (which isn't going to happen at least yet), what about Charlie Weis? He's been dormant since getting fired by Kansas three games into the 2014 season.
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Post by beerseach on Oct 13, 2016 14:26:17 GMT -5
With all the talk about Brian Kelly potentially getting fired from ND (which isn't going to happen at least yet), what about Charlie Weis? He's been dormant since getting fired by Kansas three games into the 2014 season. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Oct 13, 2016 14:43:57 GMT -5
With all the talk about Brian Kelly potentially getting fired from ND (which isn't going to happen at least yet), what about Charlie Weis? He's been dormant since getting fired by Kansas three games into the 2014 season. nyc - you have a better chance of getting zapped by lightning & hitting the lottery on the same day than you do of either Kelly or Weis ever coaching at HC.
And given NP has yet to make a single hire with HC ties, if/when HC makes a move - I strongly doubt it would someone associated with HC - though if that's the case, its very short sighted.
It's all going to depend on what HC is willing to pay, and you get what you pay for. It would most likely be a younger 1A assistant from a name program looking to add head coaching experience to his resume. However if by chance NP were to go back to the HC well - my vote would be for Bill McGovern, though doubt he would leave the NYG to return to college at the PL level.
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Post by inhocsigno on Oct 13, 2016 14:56:35 GMT -5
I am still behind this team and Coach Gilmore. However, in the event that NP actually reads this board, and assuming he has already made an adverse decision re Gilmore's future, I think that a young and up and coming coach is the way to go. Assuming the foregoing, I hope that current Eagles Special Teams Coordinator and future NFL head coach David Fipp would be at the top of the list of NP's candidates. Not sure if he would entertain an interview offer, but he is the type of young coach that can energize the program.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 13, 2016 15:32:35 GMT -5
Wouldn't an NFL special teams coordinator make a much higher salary than what we would offer?
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Post by deep Purple on Oct 13, 2016 16:31:03 GMT -5
With all the talk about Brian Kelly potentially getting fired from ND (which isn't going to happen at least yet), what about Charlie Weis? He's been dormant since getting fired by Kansas three games into the 2014 season. I couldn't imagine our defense getting any worse. And then you drop the name "Charlie Weis"
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Post by cmo on Oct 13, 2016 17:29:20 GMT -5
Random Names :
Brian Flinn, WR coach at nova.
Bob Chesney, Head Coach at Assumption College
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Post by hcgrad94 on Oct 13, 2016 18:37:20 GMT -5
Random Names : Brian Flinn, WR coach at nova. Bob Chesney, Head Coach at Assumption College Cheney is an interesting name who will be a FCS coach somewhere in the next few years. He is climbing the ranks pretty quickly and seems to know how to turn programs around.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 13, 2016 19:08:50 GMT -5
Random Names : Brian Flinn, WR coach at nova. Bob Chesney, Head Coach at Assumption College Cheney is an interesting name who will be a FCS coach somewhere in the next few years. He is climbing the ranks pretty quickly and seems to know how to turn programs around. Assumption's W-L record 2009= 6-4 Coach Cory Bailey 2010= 6-5 2011= 4-6 2012= 3-7 2013= 6-5 Coach Bob Chesney 2014=7-4 2015= 11–2 2016= 5-1 season to date prior to Coach Chesney, Assumption's record since going from D3 to D2 in 1993 was 68-137
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Post by HC92 on Oct 13, 2016 19:13:13 GMT -5
Glenn Caruso was named the 29th head coach in the 109-year history of University of St. Thomas football on Jan. 24, 2008. He's led the Tommies' remarkable surge that has produced two NCAA championship game berths over the last four years.
The 42-year-old Connecticut native has built a 87-14 record in his eight seasons at St. Thomas, with six NCAA playoff berths and an 15-6 postseason mark. He's among Division III's most accomplished coaches -- in any sport -- age 45 or under.
Caruso took over a team that finished 2-8 the previous year and:
led the Tommies to a 7-3 record in his inaugural season followed that up with an 11-2 record in 2009, including a 2-1 playoff record and a berth in the NCAA playoff quarterfinals; guided a 12-1 performance and a return NCAA quarterfinal run in the 2010 campaign; led UST's 13-1 record and NCAA playoff semifinal trip in 2011; and oversaw 14-1 marks and national runner-up placings in both 2012 and 2015. That five-year run from 2008-2012 completed the biggest turnaround in Division III football bringing the Tommies from a No. 206 national ranking to No. 2. In the last 11 years, UST is one of only three D-III programs to play in a Stagg Bowl national championship game. In this decade alone, UST is 69-9. Since 2010, none of the 660 NCAA institutions at all levels that sponsor both sports have a better combined football/men's basketball record than St. Thomas.
UST’s 2010 conference football championship was the school's first since 1990. St. Thomas went on to claim three consecutive conference championships from 2010-2012, the school’s first such streak since 1947-1949. It became the first team in MIAC history to post three consecutive 10-0 records in the regular season.
In guiding the 2012 Tommies' NCAA runner-up finish, Caruso was voted by his peers as the Division III National Coach of the Year by the American Football Coaches’ Association (AFCA). He receved the same AFCA honor in voting of his peers in 2015,
He’s just the third Division III honoree in the 30-year history of the AFCA award to top the voting without winning the NCAA championship. He's believed to be the first AFCA Coach of the Year recipient who also played in college for an AFCA National Coach of the Year. His first mentor, Ithaca College's Jim Butterfield, was a two-time honoree.
UST graduated four All-Americas from 2011 and lost several players to injuries as the 2012 season played out, but under Caruso's leadership was able to post to a school-record 14 wins and make the program’s first trip to the NCAA championship game.
The Tommies lost 28-10 to 11-time national champion Mount Union in the Alonzo Stagg Bowl. St. Thomas earned a season-ending AFCA ranking of No. 2 in the nation and had four All-America honorees, both program bests. The 2012 Tommies had the most home-field victories in all of NCAA football (9-0 record).
UST won eight regular season games in 2014 and advanced to the NCAA playoffs for the fifth time in the last six years.
The 2015 team was unbeaten during the regular season with a 10-0 record and won the MIAC championship. The season ended with another second-place national finish and 14-1 after appearing in the Stagg Bowl and falling 49-35 to Mount Union. Six players received All-America or honorable mention All-America honors led by National Offensive Player of the Year Jordan Roberts.
Impressive Stats
Out of 639 NCAA football programs, he was one of just three head coaches – joining Mount Union’s Larry Kehres and Boise State’s Chris Petersen -- to lead the same school to 11 or more wins in each of the four seasons from 2009-2012.
Caruso was also named the Liberty Mutual Division III National Coach of the Year for the third year in a row -- Liberty Mutual’s only multiple winner in any division in the award’s seven-year history.
He previously was named Division III Coach of the Year in 2011 by American Football Monthly magazine.
Caruso accomplished something unheard of in college football coaching: He improved his won-loss record in each of his first seven seasons as a head coach. He inherited a Macalester program that was 0-9 the previous fall and guided the Scots to records of 2-7 then 4-5. He took over a St. Thomas program coming off a 2-8 season and has posted records of 7-3, 11-2, 12-1, 13-1 and 14-1 in his first five seasons.
In that five-year span, UST football won CoSIDA Academic All-America honors five times; had one National Football Foundation Scholar-Athlete; had three Gagliardi Trophy semifinalists; had three AFCA Good Works Team honorees; and on the field had two conference Player of the Year recipients and 11 players who combined to win All-America honors a total of 16 times.
At his six stops in a 18-year coaching career, he’s coached five winners of the Rimington Award recognizing the top center in each of four levels of college football.
Caruso was voted the Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference Coach of the Year in each season from 2010 to 2012 and was honored again in 2015. Prior to 2012, the last Tommie football coach so honored was in 1993.
His Tommie teams have been a model of consistency. They’ve led in the second half or overtime in 95 of their 101 games, including 78 of 80 regular-season games.
St. Thomas isn't Caruso's first turnaround. He helped resurrect three other football programs and has developed a national reputation for installing dynamic, high-scoring offenses.
The Greenwich, Ct., native played on two state championship football teams at Greenwich High, and has many family members and a vast support system living in that area.
He went on to Ithaca (N.Y.) College, where he was a starter on the offensive line (center) and helped the Bombers make two NCAA Division III playoff trips and post a 30-13 record in his four-year era. He spent one season as a graduate assistant coach at Ithaca, where he coached the offensive line.
Caruso has mentored 15 offensive players who signed pro contracts, including former NFL kick-return standout Stefan Logan of the Detroit Lions.
Caruso earned a Bachelor of Science degree in 1996 from Ithaca, where he majored in sport studies. He earned his master's degree in education from North Dakota State University in 2004. Coach Caruso and wife Rachael reside in St. Paul with daughter Anna (12) and sons Cade (10) and True (9).
Liberty Mutual made three $50,000 charitable donations on his behalf, which Caruso has designated to St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital; Habitat for Humanity, Twin Cities; the University of Minnesota Cancer Research, located just four miles from UST's campus in Minneapolis, and Bucky's Pride, his foundation created in 2010 and named after his dad Frank "Bucky" Caruso.
Off the field, Caruso and his program make a strong impact in St. Paul and beyond. He is a founder of a Reading Recess program at local elementary schools. He joined Tommie players in the Up ‘Til Dawn Benefit writing 2,000 letters to raise funds for St. Jude’s Children’s Research Hospital. He also holds an annual youth football camp and is active in state and national coaching organizations at several levels.
Strong Tradition
St. Thomas has a rich tradition since its first varsity games in 1903. The Tommies' are ranked in the top 25 in Division III all-time winning percentage. Thirteen Tommies have gone on to play in the National Football League, including three in the last 25 years, and 2013 marked the 65th anniversary of the famed 1948 Cigar Bowl team which played a New Year's Day bowl game in Tampa, Fla.
Off the field, Tommie football has received CoSIDA Academic All-America honors 22 times in the last 23 seasons; had a player named to the AFCA Good Works Team (campus/community service) a Division III-record 12 consecutive seasons; and have had three players in the last 15 years receive an elite National Football Foundation Scholar-Athlete Award and $18,000 postgrad scholarship.
Glenn Caruso Year-By-Year
Year-----Overall-------MIAC (Place)
2008------7-3----------5-3 (tie 2nd)
2009-----11-2----------7-1 (2nd)
2010-----12-1----------8-0 (1st)
2011-----13-1----------8-0 (1st)
2012-----14-1----------8-0 (1st)
2013------8-2----------6-2 (tie 2nd)
2014------8-3----------6-2 (tie 2nd)
2015-----14-1----------8-0 (1st)
Totals/87-14 (.861)---56-8 (.875)
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Post by bikeman on Oct 13, 2016 19:21:56 GMT -5
Les Miles.
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Post by joe on Oct 13, 2016 19:45:53 GMT -5
Maybe we can get LSU back to Fitton again. We can even the all time record at 2-2.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 13, 2016 20:28:24 GMT -5
IIRC, during ADNP's tenure, a general pre-requisite included in the vacancy announcements for head coaches is experience in recruiting at an academically rigorous institution.
Recruiting under the Academic Index and bands is no piece of cake. .
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Post by hchoops on Oct 13, 2016 20:54:02 GMT -5
IIRC, during ADNP's tenure, a general pre-requisite included in the vacancy announcements for head coaches is experience in recruiting at an academically rigorous institution. Recruiting under the Academic Index and bands is no piece of cake. . But the same piece of cake for the entire PL.
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