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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 14, 2021 15:52:10 GMT -5
I think Ohtani is one of the best things to happen to baseball in a very long time. However, no one should be comparing him to Babe Ruth
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Post by timholycross on Jul 14, 2021 16:03:15 GMT -5
...because he got voted in as the DH and as a pitcher.
Otherwise, the rule is that if he starts as pitcher, there is no DH for the Angels that game, because there's 9 position players batting (I don't think in MLB you can DH for anyone other than the pitcher).
To take it one step further, if he started the game as the DH then came in as a relief pitcher, when and if he left the mound, he's out of the game and there's no dh the rest of the game.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 14, 2021 16:14:24 GMT -5
Only that he is apparently an excellent pitcher while also being a power hitter. We often forget Ruth's stellar pitching because of all his home runs which was the focus in his career with the Yankees.
And, besides, Hank Aaron has the most homers, right?
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Post by alum on Jul 14, 2021 16:21:12 GMT -5
I think Ohtani is one of the best things to happen to baseball in a very long time. However, no one should be comparing him to Babe Ruth Absolutely correct. Ruth had a lifetime OPS of 1.164 and an OPS+ of 206
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 14, 2021 17:48:07 GMT -5
And Stephen A. Smith who criticized him being the face of baseball while using an interpreter during press conferences, is neither of those.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 14, 2021 18:30:28 GMT -5
I don't know if you heard his apology for that (both for what he said and how he expressed it) but Stephen A Smith explained everything in detail and apologized for his role in all of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2021 18:47:16 GMT -5
Ruth only pitched 5 games with the Yankees.He hit more HR's his first yr. in NY then his 6 in Boston
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Post by hchoops on Jul 14, 2021 18:48:48 GMT -5
Stephen A Smith is a loud, arrogant, know it all boor who should just go away
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 14, 2021 20:47:52 GMT -5
Many may (and probably do) share your opinion of SAS. However, in this case I felt that he seemed most sincere in his apology to any who were offended in general by his remarks and to Asians in particular.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 14, 2021 21:07:36 GMT -5
Many may (and probably do) share your opinion of SAS. However, in this case I felt that he seemed most sincere in his apology to any who were offended in general by his remarks and to Asians in particular. Change his words to Rafael Devers and Spanish...Is the reaction different? I think so
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Post by hchoops on Jul 14, 2021 21:35:29 GMT -5
An apology is a quick and easy way to avoid responsibility.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 14, 2021 22:21:59 GMT -5
More than a decade ago, SAS made a number of derogatory remarks about women in general. Any one of them these days would likely get him fired.
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Post by Tom on Jul 15, 2021 7:26:35 GMT -5
...because he got voted in as the DH and as a pitcher. Otherwise, the rule is that if he starts as pitcher, there is no DH for the Angels that game, because there's 9 position players batting (I don't think in MLB you can DH for anyone other than the pitcher). To take it one step further, if he started the game as the DH then came in as a relief pitcher, when and if he left the mound, he's out of the game and there's no dh the rest of the game. My point exactly. They had a special rule for the All Star game that let him be a DH even though they used him as a pitcher - effectively saying he was two different people
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Post by hchoops on Jul 15, 2021 7:48:24 GMT -5
Superman
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Post by Tom on Jul 15, 2021 7:49:57 GMT -5
Only that he is apparently an excellent pitcher while also being a power hitter. We often forget Ruth's stellar pitching because of all his home runs which was the focus in his career with the Yankees. And, besides, Hank Aaron has the most homers, right? I agree. It is a fair comparison to Ruth in that he pitches well and hits well. Even though it is common now-a-days to compare people to all time greats before the numbers are there to back it up, no reasonable person is saying that Ohtani has proven himself to be in a category with Ruth on the mound or at the plate On the other hand, Ruth was an outfielder for the Yankees and really not a pitcher. He was a pitcher for the Red Sox who played some outfield between starts only after Tris Speaker left town. He basically was not the everyday outfielder between starts. Ohtani is an everyday player. He doesn't play in the field between starts, but he is in the line-up basically every day between starts.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 15, 2021 8:20:55 GMT -5
OK, as they used to say on tests "compare and contrast." It was not my intent to equate Ohtani and Ruth but to simply observe that the two were the rare birds (no, not Orioles or Cardinals) that both pitched well and hit well. Sort of like observing Gordie Lockbaum was like his ancient pigskin two-way predecessors. [yeah, he was much better than most] As I stipulated, while I was once a big fan of baseball, MLB lost me decades ago and the only interest I have in the game now is my grandson's T-ball and Crusader baseball. If I've offended the true believers . . . . . . get over it - I'm sure you'll overcome any perceived criticism of George Herman Ruth.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 15, 2021 8:33:03 GMT -5
An apology is a quick and easy way to avoid responsibility. Not necessarily. especially when he said that he took full responsibility for what happened, did not seek to diminish the hurt that others felt or to explain it away. He said that he truly regretted hurting others. IIRC, it was the first time I have heard him make such a statement.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jul 15, 2021 10:10:41 GMT -5
...because he got voted in as the DH and as a pitcher. Otherwise, the rule is that if he starts as pitcher, there is no DH for the Angels that game, because there's 9 position players batting (I don't think in MLB you can DH for anyone other than the pitcher). To take it one step further, if he started the game as the DH then came in as a relief pitcher, when and if he left the mound, he's out of the game and there's no dh the rest of the game. This affects the Angels that way throughout his games when he pitches.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 15, 2021 16:01:51 GMT -5
Red Sox and Yankees postponed due to Covid outbreak on the Yankees.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 15, 2021 16:23:23 GMT -5
Why aren't the players vaccinated? Should be fines and suspensions.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 15, 2021 17:07:07 GMT -5
Most are already vaccinated.. The team posted that it has over 85% vaccinated.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 15, 2021 18:29:28 GMT -5
...because he got voted in as the DH and as a pitcher. Otherwise, the rule is that if he starts as pitcher, there is no DH for the Angels that game, because there's 9 position players batting (I don't think in MLB you can DH for anyone other than the pitcher). To take it one step further, if he started the game as the DH then came in as a relief pitcher, when and if he left the mound, he's out of the game and there's no dh the rest of the game. My point exactly. They had a special rule for the All Star game that let him be a DH even though they used him as a pitcher - effectively saying he was two different people I would not object if the Commish decided to shake things up and allow unlimited substituting for the annual all star exhibition game. Could even eliminate positions in the voting and elect the top 25-30 vote getters in each league to the squad and then let the skill and strategy of the manager decide how to deploy the batters, fielders, pitchers and runners for each at bat. It would cause great interest among bettors and fantasy players and I would probably tune in for the whole game to see how each manager played it for each at bat. There would have to be a 30 second clock or something similar for the substitutions to be made and then 30 seconds for everybody to get to their position between batters. Chance of happening in reality: zip.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 15, 2021 18:52:51 GMT -5
Most are already vaccinated.. The team posted that it has over 85% vaccinated. Were the 6 affected Yankees vaccinated ? Probably will not find out with privacy rules.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 15, 2021 19:03:23 GMT -5
Not sure. some may have been, but the vax is supposed to lessen the severity of the infection among those who have the antibodies or have been vaccinated.
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Post by lou on Jul 15, 2021 20:29:02 GMT -5
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