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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 24, 2021 16:22:34 GMT -5
My list of seen in person - in no particular order:
Gordie Fenerty Perry Jr. Feaster Kozerski McGovern brothers
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Post by hc87 on May 24, 2021 23:45:50 GMT -5
Fenerty was the most explosive HC weapon post 1970. Kozerski easily had the best NFL career of any HC player post 1970/1-AA era.
Gordie gets the accolades and is a friend...but those two guys, strictly on a "football talent that transcends to the next level" have to be the 2 best players we have produced in the last 50 years.
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Post by longsuffering on May 25, 2021 0:21:13 GMT -5
I saw Joe Wilson, and when he wasn't injured he was capable of running right through an opponent's defense.
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Post by Tom on May 25, 2021 7:51:24 GMT -5
First of all, I am assuming there is a provision against voting for yourself. I never got a varsity letter but definitely a legend in my own mind. Thinking of the greatest athlete other than me, I am biased in favor of the guy that excel at multiple disciplines. That's why I gave the nod to baseball, football, and track guy Sockalexis. I round out my top 4 with Cousy, Osmanski, and Perry Which Perry ? Looks like I got caught being purposely ambiguous. Going with '80, but it's hard. I know '54 had a great college world series but I don't have much in the way of stats other than that. At the last winter homecoming, I sat in on a discussion panel on the film Purple Reign and heard his teammates tell how he sacrificed his numbers for the good of the team. '80 was the last man cut from the '81 world champion Celtics while playing AA ball . His basketball numbers are incredible and was also a baseball all star. Possibly biased by the eye test. I know what 80 did. I didn't ever see him play baseball, but I know he was the star of that team (in a smaller pond than his father). I only know stories of what his father did
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Post by Ignutz on May 30, 2021 19:33:27 GMT -5
Like 3 of yours I would choose RP Jr over dad RP Jr was an All America in hoops and a fine baseball player Close No national championships, but to me Mt Rushmore is more for individual achievements I recall that it used to be said that RP Junior was the NCAA's only two-time two sport academic All-America player. He must be on the list I'm going to think about this awhile although it seems clear to me that Cousy and Heinsohn should be the first two on the list for great success at Hoy Cross and extraordinary success in the NBA. This is a great exercise-should be fun. Others to consider: Jimmy Ryan with 2,500+ MLB base hits Rosy Ryan--pitcher on the great NY Giants teams of the 1920's Joe Dugan- infielder on the great Yankees teams of the 1920's Jigger Statz--remember the quiz about the handful of players with 4.000+ professional base hits Andy Kelly-world record holding sprinter Billy Doran-- basketball star and great baseball player Glad to see Vince Promuto on the list--remember that he long held the HC record for shot put in addition to being a great football player for HC and an 11 year NFL veteran and pro bowl player Too many to choose from. For a small D1 school, we’ve certainly had more than our share of players on the national and international (Michael Vicens: Puerto Rico Olympic volleyball, Callie Taffe: All-America and Israel Olympic swimming) stages. Glad to see that you included Doran - Academic All-America in basketball and baseball. What about Kevin Swords, one of the USA’s all-time great rugby players?
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Post by WorcesterGray on May 31, 2021 6:56:58 GMT -5
Add Bill Carrigan, early 1900's one of the greatest catchers in Red Sox history. A belated two cents . . . Carrigan was a superb athlete - a two-sport star at Holy Cross (football and baseball) as well as a solid MLB catcher. And, fwiw, he guided the Sox to two World Series titles in his first three full seasons as a player-manager.
If being able to play multiple sports at a high level is one mark of a great all-around "athlete," Carrigan certainly deserves some consideration, as does Sockalexis who was a three-sport star at HC (football, baseball, track)
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Post by WorcesterGray on May 31, 2021 7:07:35 GMT -5
One of the best college pitchers of all time. In four years at HC, he was 50-2.
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Post by rgs318 on May 31, 2021 8:51:15 GMT -5
I am surprised that so little mention has been given to Hop Riopel. Here is what they say about him on the HC website.
Albert “Hop” Riopel ’24
Born in 1900, Hop Riopel became known as “Mr. Holy Cross,” Hop Riopel began his outstanding athletic career in grammar school and brought that prowess onto the field and onto the court at Holy Cross, where he earned 11 varsity letters.
Upon graduation, Riopel was offered a position with the New York Giants, but turned it down. Instead, he assumed coaching duties at Milford (Mass.) High School, where he led both the basketball and baseball teams to several state championships. In 1933, he became the freshman baseball, football and basketball coach at Holy Cross. Eventually, he filled the role of varsity coach in all three sports. In addition to his coaching responsibilities, he acted as football scout for the Crusaders. In that role, he made a valuable conbtribution to the plan that helped HC score what some say is the greatest football upset ever (with their 55-12 win over Boston College). Riopel served as coordinator of athletics at Holy Cross for 33 years.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on May 31, 2021 8:54:09 GMT -5
I know ACTP already mentioned him, but if you ever have a most underrated athlete poll, I'm going to vote for Rob Feaster. IMHO he has been rather unappreciated because he played in the non schollie era. He could flat out play in any era; will never forget all those power two handed tomahawk (can I say that) dunks that used to propel me out of my seat. Even on this board he's not mentioned very often.
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Post by possum on May 31, 2021 9:35:51 GMT -5
Feaster was a great player, unfortunately his best years came after the elimination of scholarships and interest in the program was at an all time low. The one I don't understand is the lack of appreciation for George Kaftan. There would be no NCAA championship without him and he was a two time All American and a member of the 75 year All March Madness team.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on May 31, 2021 10:21:07 GMT -5
Can't disagree about Kaftan; maybe it's only because none of us saw him play in the flesh (that he doesn't get mentioned nearly as much as he should). All I will say about Feaster is he had some of his better games against the better opponents on the schedule, such as BC, Rutgers, UMass (when they were good), and even in the Arkansas blowout. Please (to all) - not trying to compare the 2 in any way. Just saying I feel Rob would have been very successful in any era (if only he could have passed through 9-10 years later and have been a part of Willard's 02-03 team).
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Post by rgs318 on May 31, 2021 11:02:03 GMT -5
I know ACTP already mentioned him, but if you ever have a most underrated athlete poll, I'm going to vote for Rob Feaster. IMHO he has been rather unappreciated because he played in the non schollie era. He could flat out play in any era; will never forget all those power two handed tomahawk (can I say that) dunks that used to propel me out of my seat. Even on this board he's not mentioned very often. Might one say that the under appreciated Feaster is the "George Kennedy" of HC hoops?
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Post by thecrossisback on Jun 22, 2021 19:24:25 GMT -5
One of the best college pitchers of all time. In four years at HC, he was 50-2.
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