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Post by sader1970 on Jul 14, 2021 15:18:49 GMT -5
First game of the season, on the road, but not a very long trip for most. Should be a pretty good game and against a D-IA team.
Pre-sale tickets are ready to purchase. Who's going?
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Post by thecrossisback on Jul 14, 2021 16:21:02 GMT -5
Five of us are planning to go. Anybody good ideas for seats? Get them at the game before? UConn isn't even selling single game tickets yet?
HC presale at the 20 yard line?
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 14, 2021 16:34:20 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 14, 2021 21:54:00 GMT -5
No wonder they don't want to play us in "Worcestor".
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Post by timholycross on Jul 14, 2021 22:17:56 GMT -5
Vacation and out of town probably- but that could change.
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Post by lou on Jul 14, 2021 22:18:15 GMT -5
Espn+ ?
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Post by football44 on Jul 15, 2021 4:48:49 GMT -5
We always beat them at home in the 70’s. Away was always a little tougher. By the way the game is being televised on CBSS that weekend.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 15, 2021 9:37:30 GMT -5
Definitely going. Looking forward to a Dub behind the dual threat at QB of Sluka and Pesansky.
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Post by mm67 on Jul 15, 2021 9:57:00 GMT -5
In the 60's UConn war routinely a warm-up, two weeks before the BC game. They were Div II. ( On the other hand Div II UMass had some terrific teams - future pros Greg Landry & Milt Morin & who knows. They won at Fitton. Great band, too.) It's been 50+ years and naturally times have changed.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 15, 2021 10:51:14 GMT -5
In the 60's UConn war routinely a warm-up, two weeks before the BC game. They were Div II. ( On the other hand Div II UMass had some terrific teams - future pros Greg Landry & Milt Morin & who knows. They won at Fitton. Great band, too.) It's been 50+ years and naturally times have changed. These events are perhaps the biggest time changers, if you will; in addition to the Patriot League entry: 1. Two platoon football. 2. Co-education 3. Creation of 1AA, which demoted some programs and elevated others. 4. Removal of the TV appearance limitations.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 15, 2021 11:12:21 GMT -5
I never knew UConn was D-2 in football. I remember them being more or less a patsy for us but really don't recall them being in a lower division. [should we put an asterisk next to some of those wins?]
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Post by princetoncrusader on Jul 15, 2021 11:25:23 GMT -5
Yes the old Yankee Conf. was a D-2 league. Not sure what the scholarship cap was back then.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 15, 2021 11:55:03 GMT -5
The Yankee Conference was D2 only for a brief period (1972-77). Before that there were no formal divisions in college football and in 1978 they moved back to D1. HC was 4-2 against the Huskies in those D2 seasons.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 15, 2021 12:48:24 GMT -5
Whew! So, they were NOT D-2 in 1966-1969. I might still have some of my marbles left.😂
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Post by mm67 on Jul 15, 2021 13:26:20 GMT -5
If memory serves: Wasn't the Yankee Conference in the College Division (Later Div. II)? Wasn't HC in the University Division? Help!
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 15, 2021 18:09:38 GMT -5
The Yankee Conference was classified as “College Division”. HC as an independent was classified as “University Division”. “The Yankee Conference was a collegiate sports conference in the eastern United States. From 1947 to 1976, it sponsored competition in many sports, but was a football-only league from mid-1976 until its dissolution in 1996. It is essentially the ancestor of today's Colonial Athletic Association (CAA) football conference, and the continuation of the New England Conference, though all three leagues were founded under different charters and are considered separate conferences by the NCAA.” “In 1971, the conference announced its first expansion, the addition of Boston University and the College of the Holy Cross.[2] Both are private institutions (nonsectarian and Roman Catholic, respectively), and fit within the conference's existing geographic footprint, giving it a presence in Massachusetts' largest (Boston) and second-largest (Worcester) cities. Both had previously competed as independents, and had a long tradition of meeting Yankee Conference members in non-league games. Because their seasons were scheduled years in advance, neither BU nor HC were able to begin league play in football immediately.[2] Though it officially joined the conference in 1971, Boston University did not start competing for the football championship until 1973; Holy Cross never did. Holy Cross had made another decision in the early 1970s that profoundly affected its athletics teams: the formerly all-male college began admitting women. Holy Cross already had by far the smallest enrollment in the conference, and administrators reached the conclusion that its shrinking male population would not be able to field competitive teams in all Yankee Conference sports. Accordingly, Holy Cross announced in November 1972 that it would quit the conference immediately.[3]“ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Conference
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 17, 2021 11:02:30 GMT -5
I recall a half life of sorts from our brief membership in the Yankee Conference was playing YC teams in future years that had not been regular OOC opponents in the past, probably due to long range scheduling while we were members.
Interesting that this is the second time BU and HC have been league mates, are only 40 miles apart, have a turnpike trophy to play for, but still don't have 5% of the rivalry that existed between HC and BC who were never to my memory in the same league together. As far as make believe Media created leagues, HC was on the cusp of but never actually a member of the "Mythical East Indies" with BC as I recall.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 17, 2021 11:13:45 GMT -5
It doesn't make it "official" as there was no formal league, but HC, Colgate and Villanova were usually listed in the media (newspaper standings, Street&Smith magazine etc) as being part of the East Indies during the 1970s along with BC, Army, Syracuse, Temple, Rutgers, Pitt, Penn St, Navy and West Virginia.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 17, 2021 11:20:24 GMT -5
It doesn't make it "official" as there was no formal league, but HC, Colgate and Villanova were usually listed in the media (newspaper standings, Street&Smith magazine etc) as being part of the East Indies during the 1970s along with BC, Army, Syracuse, Temple, Rutgers, Pitt, Penn St, Navy and West Virginia. Thanks. My memory was fuzzy on this.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 17, 2021 11:34:36 GMT -5
Holy Cross never won the Lambert Trophy even with Dr. Eddie Anderson's good teams but are five time winners of the Lambert Cup, all in the 1980s. Next closest PL team is Lehigh with two. Colgate has only won once. This indicates the Carter/Duffner Dynasty was stronger than any other run of winning in PL Football history.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 17, 2021 12:05:21 GMT -5
Holy Cross never won the Lambert Trophy even with Dr. Eddie Anderson's good teams but are five time winners of the Lambert Cup, all in the 1980s. Next closest PL team is Lehigh with two. Colgate has only won once. This indicates the Carter/Duffner Dynasty was stronger than any other run of winning in PL Football history. Carter never coached in the CL/PL. (But the 4 Lambert Cups under Dufner in the CL/PL still make your point regarding HC v the other CL/PL teams).
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 17, 2021 12:55:03 GMT -5
You might think reaching the top of FCS might be easier now than in the Division's early years due to the steady ascent of D-2 teams to FCS and stronger FCS teams moving out to FBS, but it isn't. If the Chesney era produces anything close to a Lambert Cup or FCS crown, it will be a huge accomplishment.
Of course there is the built in excuse of the PL rules handcuffs...
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jul 18, 2021 11:49:05 GMT -5
I would like to go, but I am concerned that this will just be another exercise in frustration after the painfully complacent offensive gameplan/execution of Chesney’s first four games playing up a class or two.
In the BC, Navy, Syracuse, and SDSU games, HC has averaged 6.75 points, 190 total yards, and 110 passing yards.
That + East Hartford + UCONN + Labor Day weekend is not exactly the greatest formula.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 18, 2021 12:31:06 GMT -5
That + East Hartford 👍 + UCONN 👍+ Labor Day weekend 👍is not exactly the greatest formula.
Maybe not for you but 3 check offs for me. I’m in and already ordered my probably 20 yard line tickets (who knows until I get there?) 😊
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jul 18, 2021 12:56:06 GMT -5
That + East Hartford 👍 + UCONN 👍+ Labor Day weekend 👍is not exactly the greatest formula. Maybe not for you but 3 check offs for me. I’m in and already ordered my probably 20 yard line tickets (who knows until I get there?) 😊 “I want to watch UCONN play football” -no one “I want to spend a Saturday in East Hartford” -no one
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