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Post by DiMarz on Nov 2, 2016 13:23:22 GMT -5
I'm a bit underwhelmed by it being a practice court. Should be George Blaney Court on which we play the games. Why not name it after Billy Gibbons? He has more wins on it than anybody!
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Post by hchoops on Nov 2, 2016 13:26:20 GMT -5
George was a terrific player, an alum and a fine coach. Nothing against Bill, also a great person
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 2, 2016 13:30:00 GMT -5
Father Hart has a lifetime of good works to earn his name on the Hart Center. I hope we don't see it disappear one piece at a time.
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Post by sarasota on Nov 2, 2016 13:47:14 GMT -5
Good point about Gibbons.
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Post by Jim on Nov 2, 2016 15:25:06 GMT -5
Regarding why it's named for George Blaney: as the "Being More" article indicates, the guys from the Class of '61 raised the money and, on successfully doing so, were given the prerogative to name the practice court. Perhaps the naming rights for the 'actual' court were/ are not available.
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Post by alumni111 on Nov 2, 2016 15:51:27 GMT -5
Agree w/Togo's Troops. I would hate to see the Hart Center court (or ice) referred to as anything but what it is now. No "This Court" or "That Rink." If anything, I wish it were referred to as the "Fr. Hart Center." He's the Crusader we all want to be.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 2, 2016 16:46:47 GMT -5
I'm a bit underwhelmed by it being a practice court. Should be George Blaney Court on which we play the games. Why not name it after Billy Gibbons? He has more wins on it than anybody! 1.) Gibbons graduated from Clark. 2.) As was pointed out, Blaney's Holy Cross class made a major contribution, and were able to name the practice court. 3.) Women's basketball is, and will forever be, a major money-losing activity. Much is spent, and very little to show for it. 4.) You payz enough money, you get to name almost anything at the original Hart. 5.) Contact your class agent, and ask him/her about the cost of available naming rights. He/she can find out from HC.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 2, 2016 18:22:27 GMT -5
Why not name it after Billy Gibbons? He has more wins on it than anybody! 1.) Gibbons graduated from Clark. 2.) As was pointed out, Blaney's Holy Cross class made a major contribution, and were able to name the practice court. 3.) Women's basketball is, and will forever be, a major money-losing activity. Much is spent, and very little to show for it. 4.) You payz enough money, you get to name almost anything at the original Hart. 5.) Contact your class agent, and ask him/her about the cost of available naming rights. He/she can find out from HC. My friends who played for GB always said he far preferred practice to games so this seems highly appropriate.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 2, 2016 19:40:57 GMT -5
I agree that the name of "Hart" should remain but want to remind everyone that as far as Bill Gibbons is concerned, he's been at Holy Cross 32 years. That is 8 times longer than any Holy Cross graduate who didn't redshirt. He's got a right to call himself a "Crusader" and to be considered for something named after him (as long as it doesn't involve removing Fr. Hart's name from anywhere).
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Post by sarasota on Nov 3, 2016 1:28:45 GMT -5
BG has a national reputation and the quality of his teams through the years and the number of their league championships is quite impressive. He has been an outstanding representative of HC.
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Post by Jim on Nov 3, 2016 10:31:29 GMT -5
I agree that the name of "Hart" should remain but want to remind everyone that as far as Bill Gibbons is concerned, he's been at Holy Cross 32 years. That is 8 times longer than any Holy Cross graduate who didn't redshirt. He's got a right to call himself a "Crusader" and to be considered for something named after him (as long as it doesn't involve removing Fr. Hart's name from anywhere). No disagreement from me, that's for sure. The major factor in whether someone has something named for them, though, these days, boils down to whether a person or people donates enough money to name something for his- or herself or someone else. Worthiness alone has increasingly little to do with it. So, it's not that Blaney is more worthy than Gibbons, or more of a Crusader because he graduated from HC and Bill went to college across town... it's simply because enough people donated enough money in celebration of their reunion and did it in honor of George Blaney. Doing so in Blaney's honor, since it WAS the Class of 1961, probably motivated them to give more generously than if it were to have been named for Coach Gibbons. But, maybe the alumnae of his program over the past many seasons will be motivated to honor their beloved coach in a similar manner, having seen this example and recognizing their coach's worthiness.
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Post by alum on Nov 3, 2016 10:42:27 GMT -5
You can't name the court after BG for a variety of reasons including the fact that it makes it awfully tough to fire him if you ever felt the need to do so. You would need to wait until he retires. The incident of a few years back also makes it problematic. Of course, if someone wanted to go that way, perhaps the indoor track could be named after Jim Kavanagh who has been at the College for 45 years. Probably would not have to raise much money to get that since in a couple of years we won't have an indoor track. (Grumble, grumble, grumble.)
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 3, 2016 10:47:07 GMT -5
I didn't mean to imply that anything should be named after Gibbons now, or even in the future. Only that when things are being named, like after Blaney, I would not lose sleep over something being named after him someday.
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Post by lou on Nov 3, 2016 10:59:30 GMT -5
I am thrilled that the living Holy Cross legend George Blaney is being honored in this way. Really, why did Gibbons, a long time employee of HC, need to be mentioned in this thread?
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 3, 2016 11:20:19 GMT -5
Because DiMarz probably thinks that Bill is more than just a "long time employee:"
He is the winningest coach in any sport in Holy Cross history. But totally agree that the Class of '61's choice in Blaney makes so much sense for all the reasons posted above.
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Post by Jim on Nov 3, 2016 11:24:12 GMT -5
I didn't mean to imply that anything should be named after Gibbons now, or even in the future. Only that when things are being named, like after Blaney, I would not lose sleep over something being named after him someday. Agree. And, in fact, I'd enjoy it very much personally, if something were named for Coach Gibbons and probably want to go the dedication.
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Post by Jim on Nov 3, 2016 11:30:20 GMT -5
Because DiMarz probably thinks that Bill is more than just a "long time employee:"He is the winningest coach in any sport in Holy Cross history. But totally agree that the Class of '61's choice in Blaney makes so much sense for all the reasons posted above. And, I would certainly agree with DiMarz, but recognize that my opinion only gets a court named after him if it is accompanied by an appropriately handsome number of dollars, which, at present, I do not have in surplus. Maybe I will in time for my 55th, like the guys from '61.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 3, 2016 14:02:58 GMT -5
I will point out that as of yet, there is nothing named after Cousy, Heinsohn, Togo, and other greats. And, why not name the Hart court "The 1946-'47 team court'?
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Post by Jim on Nov 3, 2016 14:07:32 GMT -5
Because $. And the fact that it's already named for a seemingly universally admired individual, whose life and service was so historically important to the College, that it'd be pretty tough to replace.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 3, 2016 14:08:07 GMT -5
Because that wouldn't be a "name," that would be numbers . . . . which we know you love! Cousy at least has his statue.
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